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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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Fish puns so yesterday.CL_Phantom said:Maatsen sounds like a Doughty replacement and the end of the Koi interest.0 -
Chunes said:
If Phillips and Doughty won't sign new contracts, what is he supposed to do?balham red said:To be honest I'd be disappointed with Sandgaard if we end up selling Bonne, Doughty and Phillips for cash that we can't spend. We'd end the financial year having made profit but most probably treading water in League 1. Now if Doughty and Phillips go, but we make an exciting signing to replace Doughty then I'd say fair enough.
But journeymen, misfits and loans aren't enough. You can say my expectations are too high, but then don't sell Doughty.
There must be many players that wanted moves that didn't happen, and they have to just get down and graft instead. Let's face it, Doughty hasn't proven himself enough to just walk into a good contract next summer. You'd think he still has a lot to play for in the next year, if he's professionally minded enough.Oggy Red said:
Yeah, but it's a football club, not a prison.balham red said:To be honest I'd be disappointed with Sandgaard if we end up selling Bonne, Doughty and Phillips for cash that we can't spend. We'd end the financial year having made profit but most probably treading water in League 1. Now if Doughty and Phillips go, but we make an exciting signing to replace Doughty then I'd say fair enough.
But journeymen, misfits and loans aren't enough. You can say my expectations are too high, but then don't sell Doughty.
If young players don't want to be here because "their head was turned" or they think they are already better than they actually are, it's often best to let them go and collect the money.
And you certainly don't want dissatisfaction and unrest in the dressing room or training ground.
That can kill team spirit stone dead.
And there'll soon be someone to take their place and who does want to be here.2 -
Spot on mate...cafc_se7 said:
Plus we don’t know whether Bowyer is actually driving the acceptance in them leaving? We need to stop getting so involved with internal decisions and let these guys get on with what they have been longing to do for a long time!Chunes said:
If Phillips and Doughty won't sign new contracts, what is he supposed to do?balham red said:To be honest I'd be disappointed with Sandgaard if we end up selling Bonne, Doughty and Phillips for cash that we can't spend. We'd end the financial year having made profit but most probably treading water in League 1. Now if Doughty and Phillips go, but we make an exciting signing to replace Doughty then I'd say fair enough.
But journeymen, misfits and loans aren't enough. You can say my expectations are too high, but then don't sell Doughty.0 -
Henske said:
Suggesting that this offence history indicates that this young man is a ‘nasty piece of work’ is seriously out of order. I’ve worked in the criminal justice system for many years with young offenders and, in fact, his offence record as detailed by dazzler21 if correct, would be entry level offending. The Cautions are all very low level, the assault was appealed successfully indicating no serious harm was perpetrated. The prison sentence was probably the outcome because he resisted arrest. Care needs to be taken when labelling a person because of criminal records, especially offence records relating to teenagers.TellyTubby said:
You seem to be suggesting that this excuses his behaviour at 25?Dazzler21 said:When you read about Inniss, he doesn't actually sound like a bad lad, pretty sure Palace would have got rid of him sooner if he were:Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager.
He has three police cautions:
one for a public order offence in 2011,
one for common assault in August 2015 and
one for being drunk and disorderly and resisting a police constable in March 2015.
On 9 September 2016, Inniss pleaded guilty to assault following an incident in a bar four months earlier; he was sentenced to 14 weeks in prison. He was released three days later after successfully appealing his sentence, which was suspended for 18 months; he was also handed 240 hours unpaid work, a £300 fine, and ordered to take part in a 20-day alcohol rehabilitation course.
Seems to be struggling as a result of his terrible upbringing and childhood being stolen by forced parental duties for his siblings... Given all his struggles he has managed to stay at Palace and earn loans at decent levels.If Bowyer and Gallen think he's good enough and can manage him, then in them we must trust.
If you are, I don't buy it, his record suggests that he is a nasty piece of work and I would hate to meet him in a pub.
Having said that, if he is a good footballer, I would happily have him as our nasty piece of work, we need more of them.
Well said.2 -
FFS Why can youth players not show a bit of class anymore?MattF said:Re. Doughty can't remember if this was posted at the time3 -
Maddison?cafc_harry said:Who’s replacing our main direct attacking threat then? Doubt we’ll get anyone else in not counting towards the cap at this stage. Can’t say I get this one.0 -
Well in spite of recent events, I'm sure it can't be argued against that we are a bigger club than P'boro. Maybe we're the kind of club he wants to sign for?golfaddick said:
Fact or guess ? Just seen the local paper down in Exeter have said that Peterborough had a deal agreed but he turned them down.ElliotCAFC said:Doughty out, Randell Williams in0 -
I'm indifferent about Doughty, yes he has pace to burn but not much end product (would have got better, I'm sure). Apart from a couple of goals last season, and the assist against Sheff Weds (which was unreal) I don't remember anything else apart from 'he was quick'. If the deal's good enough then we are right to take it with a year left (his agent is a cock for what he's done re Alfie & Dillon).9
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Kind of... If the PL club paid us £200m in loan fees that could actually offset the salary cap...Leeds_Addick said:
Money is pointless to us at this stage. A PL club could pay us £200m for him and it wouldn't make a single bit of difference to our promotion hopes. Keeping him would though and there's no way we'll find someone as good given the salary cap conditions.RedRobin said:
As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need.Scoham said:
Though I am sure they've worked some way out to block that... Surely? I can't see anything in the EFL salary cap rules that does rule it out.0 -
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Stoke are after him.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
Well in spite of recent events, I'm sure it can't be argued against that we are a bigger club than P'boro. Maybe we're the kind of club he wants to sign for?golfaddick said:
Fact or guess ? Just seen the local paper down in Exeter have said that Peterborough had a deal agreed but he turned them down.ElliotCAFC said:Doughty out, Randell Williams in0 -
Fee for Doughty?.0
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AnLargeAddick said:
An entry level offence such as common assault, warranting a caution, could be when one person pushes another person intentionally. Not that’s not okay but it’s not a serious assault. Common assaults are seen on football pitches during most games. Walk in someone else’s shoes a few steps before you judge them as ‘wronguns’.
Oh good, entry level offending, that’s ok then. To me, as someone who has never been in trouble with the law, he looks a wrongun. Just my opinion.Henske said:
Suggesting that this offence history indicates that this young man is a ‘nasty piece of work’ is seriously out of order. I’ve worked in the criminal justice system for many years with young offenders and, in fact, his offence record as detailed by dazzler21 if correct, would be entry level offending. The Cautions are all very low level, the assault was appealed successfully indicating no serious harm was perpetrated. The prison sentence was probably the outcome because he resisted arrest. Care needs to be taken when labelling a person because of criminal records, especially offence records relating to teenagers.TellyTubby said:
You seem to be suggesting that this excuses his behaviour at 25?Dazzler21 said:When you read about Inniss, he doesn't actually sound like a bad lad, pretty sure Palace would have got rid of him sooner if he were:Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager.
He has three police cautions:
one for a public order offence in 2011,
one for common assault in August 2015 and
one for being drunk and disorderly and resisting a police constable in March 2015.
On 9 September 2016, Inniss pleaded guilty to assault following an incident in a bar four months earlier; he was sentenced to 14 weeks in prison. He was released three days later after successfully appealing his sentence, which was suspended for 18 months; he was also handed 240 hours unpaid work, a £300 fine, and ordered to take part in a 20-day alcohol rehabilitation course.
Seems to be struggling as a result of his terrible upbringing and childhood being stolen by forced parental duties for his siblings... Given all his struggles he has managed to stay at Palace and earn loans at decent levels.If Bowyer and Gallen think he's good enough and can manage him, then in them we must trust.
If you are, I don't buy it, his record suggests that he is a nasty piece of work and I would hate to meet him in a pub.
Having said that, if he is a good footballer, I would happily have him as our nasty piece of work, we need more of them.8 -
Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager.
On his Wiki, explains issues but hopefully Bowyer can get an arm round him and put him on the straight & narrow.
Agree with the Doughty comments. Shits on Bowyer IMO gives him a chance and jumps ship first chance.7 -
Do Fulham need Doughty?LargeAddick said:
Very disappointed with that if true. Fulham my guess.Redhenry said:Doughty off though
They just signed Lookman on loan who immediately looked up for it, hopefully he stays that way. I think another LM signing would see him regress confidence wise as it has done in the past.0 -
Has a great delivery don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he’s the type to run up and down the pitch, at defenders etc. Doughty’s pace is absolutely lethal at this level, very hard if not impossible to replace.Dazzler21 said:
Maddison?cafc_harry said:Who’s replacing our main direct attacking threat then? Doubt we’ll get anyone else in not counting towards the cap at this stage. Can’t say I get this one.0 -
Because, we've offered Exeter a decent transfer fee and the player's wife has just got a new job at Zynex?golfaddick said:
Fact or guess ? Just seen the local paper down in Exeter have said that Peterborough had a deal agreed but he turned them down.ElliotCAFC said:Doughty out, Randell Williams in
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Where has the Marquis link come from?
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If you work on the presumption that there is no loyalty in football you can never be too disapointed and sometimes pleasantly surprised.1
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Maddison has proven to be quite effective in the last 4-5 years at this level. He does run at defenders, but he also regularly gets an assist or scores from doing so.cafc_harry said:
Has a great delivery don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he’s the type to run up and down the pitch, at defenders etc. Doughty’s pace is absolutely lethal at this level, very hard if not impossible to replace.Dazzler21 said:
Maddison?cafc_harry said:Who’s replacing our main direct attacking threat then? Doubt we’ll get anyone else in not counting towards the cap at this stage. Can’t say I get this one.
I think Maddison would always have had more affect this season than Doughty.
You still need to spot a pass, make a pass and finish at this level. It would be great experience for him to learn football from Maddison, especially with his pace as an additional tool in the box that Maddison has never had.3 -
Quite excited about signing a defender who is going to scythe down the opposition.2
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What Marquis link?CharltonByBlood said:Where has the Marquis link come from?2 -
As much as I believe there's nothing to the rumours and I dislike the bloke, I wouldn't say no to him joining us.CharltonByBlood said:Where has the Marquis link come from?0 -
Can’t disagree with any of that, but I do still think Doughty gives us something that I doubt any other team in this league really has.Dazzler21 said:
Maddison has proven to be quite effective in the last 4-5 years at this level. I think he would always have had more affect this season than Doughty.cafc_harry said:
Has a great delivery don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he’s the type to run up and down the pitch, at defenders etc. Doughty’s pace is absolutely lethal at this level, very hard if not impossible to replace.Dazzler21 said:
Maddison?cafc_harry said:Who’s replacing our main direct attacking threat then? Doubt we’ll get anyone else in not counting towards the cap at this stage. Can’t say I get this one.
You still need to spot a pass, make a pass and finish at this level. It would have been great experience for him to learn football from Maddison, especially with his pace as an additional tool in the box that Maddison has never had.0 -
