He has had a troubled life off the pitch and at 25 and being out on 10 loans from Palace needs an opportunity to show the talent that saw him rewarded with England schoolboy internationals at 15 and 16.
We have been too soft and too small for a while. Ryan would need believing in and supporting but he is at the last chance saloon after the biting incident.
Could be a cult hero if this free transfer happens.
His past is in the past but it certainly looks as though he is at a crossroads.
He clearly has, or at least had, ability to have remained at Palace and to have had international recognition. You would think he is at an age where Bowyer can instill a bit of reality into him and make it clear "this is it mate, last chance saloon". He could go and make a name for himself, become a role model for youngsters and look after his family in the best possible way or he could be an unmanageable nightmare. Interesting juxtaposition really
Let's be honest though...how many times have he been too soft? a pushover to opponents. It would be interesting to have a big nutter who takes no shit. Couple that with Maddison, the king of WUM's, and maybe add Paul Smyth to the mix and we'd be the biggest shithouses in the league.
When you read about Inniss, he doesn't actually sound like a bad lad, pretty sure Palace would have got rid of him sooner if he were:
Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager.
He has three police cautions: one for a public order offence in 2011, one for common assault in August 2015 and one for being drunk and disorderly and resisting a police constable in March 2015.
On 9 September 2016, Inniss pleaded guilty to assault following an incident in a bar four months earlier; he was sentenced to 14 weeks in prison. He was released three days later after successfully appealing his sentence, which was suspended for 18 months; he was also handed 240 hours unpaid work, a £300 fine, and ordered to take part in a 20-day alcohol rehabilitation course.
Seems to be struggling as a result of his terrible upbringing and childhood being stolen by forced parental duties for his siblings... Given all his struggles he has managed to stay at Palace and earn loans at decent levels.
If Bowyer and Gallen think he's good enough and can manage him, then in them we must trust.
You seem to be suggesting that this excuses his behaviour at 25?
If you are, I don't buy it, his record suggests that he is a nasty piece of work and I would hate to meet him in a pub.
Having said that, if he is a good footballer, I would happily have him as our nasty piece of work, we need more of them.
Suggesting that this offence history indicates that this young man is a ‘nasty piece of work’ is seriously out of order. I’ve worked in the criminal justice system for many years with young offenders and, in fact, his offence record as detailed by dazzler21 if correct, would be entry level offending. The Cautions are all very low level, the assault was appealed successfully indicating no serious harm was perpetrated. The prison sentence was probably the outcome because he resisted arrest. Care needs to be taken when labelling a person because of criminal records, especially offence records relating to teenagers.
“But with Conor he did so well and we lost out because of the embargo situation. We weren’t paying his wage and then someone came in and said they’d pay his wage and give you this and that."
“But with Conor he did so well and we lost out because of the embargo situation. We weren’t paying his wage and then someone came in and said they’d pay his wage and give you this and that."
Better hope we're paying enough of his wages this time around
He comes across as a nice man, very introspective and open to talk about his past. He might be a bit dim but I think it would be a good signing, all things considered.
When you read about Inniss, he doesn't actually sound like a bad lad, pretty sure Palace would have got rid of him sooner if he were:
Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager.
He has three police cautions: one for a public order offence in 2011, one for common assault in August 2015 and one for being drunk and disorderly and resisting a police constable in March 2015.
On 9 September 2016, Inniss pleaded guilty to assault following an incident in a bar four months earlier; he was sentenced to 14 weeks in prison. He was released three days later after successfully appealing his sentence, which was suspended for 18 months; he was also handed 240 hours unpaid work, a £300 fine, and ordered to take part in a 20-day alcohol rehabilitation course.
Seems to be struggling as a result of his terrible upbringing and childhood being stolen by forced parental duties for his siblings... Given all his struggles he has managed to stay at Palace and earn loans at decent levels.
If Bowyer and Gallen think he's good enough and can manage him, then in them we must trust.
You seem to be suggesting that this excuses his behaviour at 25?
If you are, I don't buy it, his record suggests that he is a nasty piece of work and I would hate to meet him in a pub.
Having said that, if he is a good footballer, I would happily have him as our nasty piece of work, we need more of them.
We definitely need to stop being a soft touch. Our midfield (bar Pratley) is too lightweight. As long as Bowyer can help Inniss battle his demons (come on, who else in management right now could offer such direct insight) then I am pleased with the option. He is not at a premier league club (and played for England juniors) for nothing and is young enough to stick around.
Sounds a lovely bloke but maybe he’s changed. Seems a desperate move though. 25 and still can’t hold down a spot anywhere.
Maybe he's turned down other offers in the past to stay at Palace?
He's been at Prem club, no doubt on a decent contract comfortable contract - and still hoped at some point to get some Prem games? And he's had plenty of 1st team experience elsewhere as a 1st team loan player - I did a quick Wiki tot up, and looks like he's already made 93 League appearances.
Now at 25, he's blocking the way for younger CBs and Palace need to move him on.
When you read about Inniss, he doesn't actually sound like a bad lad, pretty sure Palace would have got rid of him sooner if he were:
Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager.
He has three police cautions: one for a public order offence in 2011, one for common assault in August 2015 and one for being drunk and disorderly and resisting a police constable in March 2015.
On 9 September 2016, Inniss pleaded guilty to assault following an incident in a bar four months earlier; he was sentenced to 14 weeks in prison. He was released three days later after successfully appealing his sentence, which was suspended for 18 months; he was also handed 240 hours unpaid work, a £300 fine, and ordered to take part in a 20-day alcohol rehabilitation course.
Seems to be struggling as a result of his terrible upbringing and childhood being stolen by forced parental duties for his siblings... Given all his struggles he has managed to stay at Palace and earn loans at decent levels.
If Bowyer and Gallen think he's good enough and can manage him, then in them we must trust.
You seem to be suggesting that this excuses his behaviour at 25?
If you are, I don't buy it, his record suggests that he is a nasty piece of work and I would hate to meet him in a pub.
Having said that, if he is a good footballer, I would happily have him as our nasty piece of work, we need more of them.
Suggesting that this offence history indicates that this young man is a ‘nasty piece of work’ is seriously out of order. I’ve worked in the criminal justice system for many years with young offenders and, in fact, his offence record as detailed by dazzler21 if correct, would be entry level offending. The Cautions are all very low level, the assault was appealed successfully indicating no serious harm was perpetrated. The prison sentence was probably the outcome because he resisted arrest. Care needs to be taken when labelling a person because of criminal records, especially offence records relating to teenagers.
I can quite understand that for someone without a job or with no real future in from of them. Not for a PROFESSIONAL footballer who probably earns more in a month than most people do in a year & has access to all sorts of people who could help him.
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He clearly has, or at least had, ability to have remained at Palace and to have had international recognition. You would think he is at an age where Bowyer can instill a bit of reality into him and make it clear "this is it mate, last chance saloon".
He could go and make a name for himself, become a role model for youngsters and look after his family in the best possible way
or he could be an unmanageable nightmare. Interesting juxtaposition really
Let's be honest though...how many times have he been too soft? a pushover to opponents. It would be interesting to have a big nutter who takes no shit. Couple that with Maddison, the king of WUM's, and maybe add Paul Smyth to the mix and we'd be the biggest shithouses in the league.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/manchester-united-have-recall-option-for-charlton-new-boy-as-addicks-chief-opens-up-on-losing-chelseas-conor-gallagher-in-january/
“But with Conor he did so well and we lost out because of the embargo situation. We weren’t paying his wage and then someone came in and said they’d pay his wage and give you this and that."
Friday could be boring at this rate as suspect we'll get two loans done now and thats it
He comes across as a nice man, very introspective and open to talk about his past. He might be a bit dim but I think it would be a good signing, all things considered.
Maatsen looks class.
He's been at Prem club, no doubt on a decent contract comfortable contract - and still hoped at some point to get some Prem games?
And he's had plenty of 1st team experience elsewhere as a 1st team loan player - I did a quick Wiki tot up, and looks like he's already made 93 League appearances.
Now at 25, he's blocking the way for younger CBs and Palace need to move him on.
If players leave (Phillips, Doughty, others?) that’ll free up wages and we may try to bring even more in.
"A vocal player, Cheltenham Town centre-back partner Steve Elliott described him as "a typical modern-day centre-half: tall, athletic and aggressive"