Personally feel that Thomas Sandgaard and Bowyer should say to Doughty stay this season when I believe his contract runs out and if we are still in League 1 come May your agent will get you a lovely contract in the Championship with our blessing.
We need to stop selling players after they have half a dozen good games. Our relegation has made that difficult.
Disappointed with Alfie a little bit... Got plenty of time to get there
Sadly that's how it is now with agents ever more powerful. Get talented kid on your books and get them a 'big' move asap, doesn't matter how it'll affect the career, as long as signing on fee is decent.
I won’t believe Doughty’s leaving until it’s “confirmed” by Rich Cawley and/or Pete O’Rourke. Unfortunately RH’s recent track record isn’t as stellar as it once was so I’m a little less inclined to believe it.
There’s about five pages of people calling him greedy etc over one whisper that was posted up here earlier today. Imagine if nothing’s happened and he’s reading those posts LOL.
I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
Let's say he's on his apprenticeship.
Company A has paid for his development and training and he hasn't finished said apprenticeship.
If he goes to Company B it is wholly disrespectful to Company A and a complete waste of their time and money.
Won't judge til it is confirmed and we learn how it affects us.
I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need.
How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs?
None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.
Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.
LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.
Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery. Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need.
How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs?
None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.
Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.
LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.
Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery. Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
Who’s replacing our main direct attacking threat then? Doubt we’ll get anyone else in not counting towards the cap at this stage. Can’t say I get this one.
Maddison?
Has a great delivery don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he’s the type to run up and down the pitch, at defenders etc. Doughty’s pace is absolutely lethal at this level, very hard if not impossible to replace.
You don't need to run if you can pick a killer pass from 50 yards Pace is nothing without control/end product...#runforrestrun
I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
Let's say he's on his apprenticeship.
Company A has paid for his development and training and he hasn't finished said apprenticeship.
If he goes to Company B it is wholly disrespectful to Company A and a complete waste of their time and money.
Won't judge til it is confirmed and we learn how it affects us.
I’m not sure that analogy works - he can only leave us if we agree to sell him or his contract expires without agreeing a new deal. He can’t just walk out now and join a new “company”.
I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
I can't speak for everyone who has commented but I'd certainly wish him well and follow his career with interest.
The problem I have with it is that he's (potentially) being silly. He's making life harder for the club that gave him a chance for a quick, short-term win. If he's as good as he thinks he is, he could sign a contract, smash League One and go in the summer - that will give him more money, status and secure the club financially. We'd all wish each other well and dance off into the moonlight.
Unfortunately, agents exist. They'll be in his ear as much as possible trying to get him to jump ship at the first opportunity.
As for the comparison with normal jobs, it doesn't correlate. While I understand your point, the caveat is that normal jobs don't invest in you since the age of 10 and give you every opportunity to flourish - just for you to run your contract down after 15 odd decent performances.
Thinking the same, decent MF, defence taking shape but no-one to score & I would be surprised there's any decent strikers hanging around that we could afford under the cap.
Thinking the same, decent MF, defence taking shape but no-one to score & I would be surprised there's any decent strikers hanging around that we could afford under the cap.
I reckon bogle could score shit loads off of Maddison crosses
I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need.
How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs?
None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.
Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.
LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.
Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery. Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
Alfie has gone from being considered a conference player on loan, to Championship and Celtic quality within a year. If it can go that way that quickly, it can go the other way just as quick. Would be mental to not consider a better move presuming he's not on a good contract at the moment.
What is the bigger issue is that we always seem to have a promising youngster break through whilst they are on a one year deal where this scenario keeps happening that we basically have to give in and sell them...
I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need.
How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs?
None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.
Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.
LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.
Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery. Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
Yeah he has talked about different systems, but he’s likely to have one as his main system. I wouldn’t assume he’s set on that being a diamond, that worked well when we had the right strikers for it. At the moment we probably don’t have that.
Williams and Oztumer can’t stay in the team, while Aneke can’t stay fit. We won’t be building a system around any of them.
When they do play it wouldn’t be surprising to see Williams our wide or in the midfield 3, Oztumer on the right of the front 3 or Aneke as the central striker. They’ve all played in positions other than a “number 10” during their careers.
The purpose of the signings is to get points on the table. If that happens all is good. I hope Inniss can avoid trading on the troubled past angle even though true, because sadly he may have caused there to be victims along the way. Perhaps reparations might be in order. Either way my attitude overall is good luck to the fella. Get us points.
Desperately need CBs, and if one of them is Inniss, then great. We need a brickhouse, and you’d assume Gallen and Bowyer wouldn’t sign a donkey. So he’s had problems from a tough childhood, but maybe charlton will help him with those issues? Maarten looks like a slightly taller Dasilva, and could be a great loan. If they’re both confirmed then we’ll have had a decent day under difficult circumstances IMHO.
Smyth would potentially be ok as well, who knows.
Bogle, Aneke, Smyth & Washington should give us plenty of options up front, and with Madison (and potentially Levitt) opening up defences I think we might do ok, although I’d prefer us to have a proven goalscorer in the ranks.
I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need.
How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs?
None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.
Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.
LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.
Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery. Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
Yeah he has talked about different systems, but he’s likely to have one as his main system. I wouldn’t assume he’s set on that being a diamond, that worked well when we had the right strikers for it. At the moment we probably don’t have that.
Williams and Oztumer can’t stay in the team, while Aneke can’t stay fit. We won’t be building a system around any of them.
When they do play it wouldn’t be surprising to see Williams our wide or in the midfield 3, Oztumer on the right of the front 3 or Aneke as the central striker. They’ve all played in positions other than a “number 10” during their careers.
They have also all been pretty poor to average as anything else other than a "number 10". Bowyer has said before that Aneke isn't a 9.
Can’t deny Bonne and Doughty their moves given their fantastic performances at the end of last season trying to keep us up. Dear oh dear.
Thing is they are both now seen as world beaters after one season where they were both lets face it, average. Agree Bonne was a bit of a better player for us, with a few goals and assists, but what has Alfie really done in the last 12 months to feel he is championship quality. That said, i don't want him to go,and feel he would benefit in another year or two, if talent shines through, with a real life changing move. Listen to Bowyer, not your agent mate.
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We need to stop selling players after they have half a dozen good games. Our relegation has made that difficult.
F**k me. Makes Celtic move look like one to Real Madrid!
There’s about five pages of people calling him greedy etc over one whisper that was posted up here earlier today. Imagine if nothing’s happened and he’s reading those posts LOL.
Company A has paid for his development and training and he hasn't finished said apprenticeship.
If he goes to Company B it is wholly disrespectful to Company A and a complete waste of their time and money.
Won't judge til it is confirmed and we learn how it affects us.
LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.
Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery. Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
PS: I'm ITK
Pace is nothing without control/end product...#runforrestrun
Rather uninspiring options, but options:
Amos
Maynard Brewer
Defence
Gunter | Inniss | Pearce | Maatsen
Oshilaja | Barker | Famewo | Purrington
Midfield
Levitt | Watson | Gilbey
Morgan | Pratley | Vennings
Attack
Oztumer | Aneke | Williams
Washington | Bogle | Maddison
The problem I have with it is that he's (potentially) being silly. He's making life harder for the club that gave him a chance for a quick, short-term win. If he's as good as he thinks he is, he could sign a contract, smash League One and go in the summer - that will give him more money, status and secure the club financially. We'd all wish each other well and dance off into the moonlight.
Unfortunately, agents exist. They'll be in his ear as much as possible trying to get him to jump ship at the first opportunity.
As for the comparison with normal jobs, it doesn't correlate. While I understand your point, the caveat is that normal jobs don't invest in you since the age of 10 and give you every opportunity to flourish - just for you to run your contract down after 15 odd decent performances.
We will see.
What is the bigger issue is that we always seem to have a promising youngster break through whilst they are on a one year deal where this scenario keeps happening that we basically have to give in and sell them...
Williams and Oztumer can’t stay in the team, while Aneke can’t stay fit. We won’t be building a system around any of them.
When they do play it wouldn’t be surprising to see Williams our wide or in the midfield 3, Oztumer on the right of the front 3 or Aneke as the central striker. They’ve all played in positions other than a “number 10” during their careers.
If that happens all is good.
I hope Inniss can avoid trading on the troubled past angle even though true, because sadly he may have caused there to be victims along the way.
Perhaps reparations might be in order.
Either way my attitude overall is good luck to the fella.
Get us points.
Like I said we will see.
Dear oh dear.
season where they were both lets face it, average.
Agree Bonne was a bit of a better player for us, with a few
goals and assists, but what has Alfie really done in the last
12 months to feel he is championship quality.
That said, i don't want him to go,and feel he would benefit
in another year or two, if talent shines through, with a real
life changing move.
Listen to Bowyer, not your agent mate.