Remember it's not just about signing any decent striker who may be available.
He has to fit Bowyer's gameplans and ways of playing.
Bow tends to like to play 2 mobile strikers who will drive forward with the ball and work well together. I bet in his mind, he's still looking for a Grant and a Taylor.
Remember it's not just about signing any decent striker who may be available.
He has to fit Bowyer's gameplans and ways of playing.
Bow tends to like to play 2 mobile strikers who will drive forward with the ball and work well together. I bet in his mind, he's still looking for a Grant and a Taylor.
If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
Danny Graham managed to hit the North Upper from inside the Covered End 6 yard box Saturday - thanks but no thanks
I wasnt talking about him as a striker per se......just that there are big players on big salaries that teams in this League have signed BEFORE the wage cap.
Jeez this is hard. I'm going to take a step back as its doing my head in.
Sunderland signed Danny Graham in September so AFTER the wage cap
That's 4 league games, 0 goals, 0 assists Danny Graham too
Poor Sunderland. Didn't they pay something like £5m for Will Grigg too? Just shows that the market is fraught with danger and easy to make an expensive mis-step
At the beginning of last season none of us had heard of Macauley Bonne and possibly Jonathan Leko but Gallen and Bowyer brought them in. They'll possibly be looking at players we've never heard of. I few days ago Schwartz fell into this category as well.
Players over the last two years I'd never heard of include:
Leko, Field, Gallagher, Bielik, Cullen & Bonne.
I think Bow and Gallen can be trusted at very least with young up and coming loanees.
Remember it's not just about signing any decent striker who may be available.
He has to fit Bowyer's gameplans and ways of playing.
Bow tends to like to play 2 mobile strikers who will drive forward with the ball and work well together. I bet in his mind, he's still looking for a Grant and a Taylor.
That's what I thought but the signings, so far, don't suggest that. Washington certainly isn't like that. You can't play Maddison in Bowyer's previously preferred formation (or Doughty).
If it was a new manager doing this I would question it but Bowyer and Gallen certainly have enough credit for me to trust them
If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
Danny Graham managed to hit the North Upper from inside the Covered End 6 yard box Saturday - thanks but no thanks
I wasnt talking about him as a striker per se......just that there are big players on big salaries that teams in this League have signed BEFORE the wage cap.
Jeez this is hard. I'm going to take a step back as its doing my head in.
Sunderland signed Danny Graham in September so AFTER the wage cap
That's 4 league games, 0 goals, 0 assists Danny Graham too
Poor Sunderland. Didn't they pay something like £5m for Will Grigg too? Just shows that the market is fraught with danger and easy to make an expensive mis-step
The 1st of February melt down "they have spent millions on Grigg and we have got a Gillingham reserve on a free" 😂😂
Not ITK or anything but I think we will try and get Joe Piggott back from Wimbledon. He's started well this season, will be on a reasonable wage, knows the club, Jacko knows him. All kind of falls into place.
His elder brother Sam is a mate of mine. I think I'll give him a call and see if he knows anything.
Just spoke to him and he says he's heard nothing. So that is either good or bad news depending on what you think of Piggott.
Keep your ears to the ground, sounds like a good source ITK
Finding a goal scoring striker for this league. My guess, and hope is LB/SG can dig up another rough diamond from the lower league's. Preferable to signing an unwanted player on the way down.
Not easy cos he needs to have reasonable experience. A gamble I know So like Bonne 23 to 25/26 years old ideal.
Lee and Steve really have their work cut out for them. What can they conjure up?
All the decent Prem youth have already got their loans. I doubt a fourth tier striker is going to fire us to third tier promotion. Bogle and Hiwula are alright but not what we need.
The month long delay due to the ESI injunction etc has properly shafted our season.
Lee and Steve really have their work cut out for them. What can they conjure up?
All the decent Prem youth have already got their loans. I doubt a fourth tier striker is going to fire us to third tier promotion. Bogle and Hiwula are alright but not what we need.
The month long delay due to the ESI injunction etc has properly shafted our season.
Bowyer has repeatedly said as much in recent weeks also that the embargo was killing us. I trust them 100%, but think the hopes of a top 6 finish this season are pie in the sky based on current evidence. I sincerely hope I am wrong.
If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
Danny Graham managed to hit the North Upper from inside the Covered End 6 yard box Saturday - thanks but no thanks
I wasnt talking about him as a striker per se......just that there are big players on big salaries that teams in this League have signed BEFORE the wage cap.
Jeez this is hard. I'm going to take a step back as its doing my head in.
Sunderland signed Danny Graham in September so AFTER the wage cap
That's 4 league games, 0 goals, 0 assists Danny Graham too
Poor Sunderland. Didn't they pay something like £5m for Will Grigg too? Just shows that the market is fraught with danger and easy to make an expensive mis-step
Personally I think it has more to do with the type of player. I have always believed that you buy the best striker you can afford and then play to his strengths. Sunderland and now us are doing it the other way round, so we have to find strikers that fit in with the way we play. You can do that at the top table, not so easy at our level.
Sunderland are a big strong side, but that is their weakness. Not enough craft. They are probably the best big and strong side in the league. Should see them into the playoffs.
We will be set up to play football with one touch and movement. The positive is that young fast forwards will suit us, as they are likely to be available on loan.
Don't know why Danny Graham is being used as an example for anything. A 35 year old journeyman who's had far more bad spells at clubs than he's had good. If we'd picked him up instead of Sunderland I wouldn't have been impressed at all
Don't know why Danny Graham is being used as an example for anything. A 35 year old journeyman who's had far more bad spells at clubs than he's had good. If we'd picked him up instead of Sunderland I wouldn't have been impressed at all
I'd probably agree but I still think he can do a job at this level. I wouldn't have wanted him on the wages he's likey to be on, but he has come off a reasonable spell at Blackburn. Not the best goalscorer but his all round game is decent.
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
I'm not aware that he has been moaning about replacing Bonne.
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
I'm not aware that he has been moaning about replacing Bonne.
No but I'd be surprised if he doesnt bemoan the fact he couldnt get a replacement if thats what happens by next Friday
exciting stuff on here i'll move along swiftly, no panic just yet with the international break but hopefully we have a couple of strikers in by the next match
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
I don't think you're far off, but given he could've left at any moment, I think Bowyer has earned one whole transfer window. Not 2.5 weeks with a salary cap after most business has been conducted in League One. Give him til the end of 21/22 season.
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
I'm not aware that he has been moaning about replacing Bonne.
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
What the fuck have I just read.
Reading between the lines... Bowyer has effectively sold our Striker for £2m without getting cover
If we dont manage to get a replacement which also replaces Bonne's 11-goals from last season then thats on Lee for not getting a replacement in before selling Macca
If Bowyer comes out @ 5pm next Friday complaining that we couldnt get a striker over the line then pure and simple, its his own fault
I dont buy this whole "but he wanted to leave"
Half the squad probably want to play at a higher level if there is interest but you wouldn't allow a max exodus without having cover first... As others have said already; Lyle Taylor wanted to go to Brentford last season; Patrick Bauer in 2018/19 wanted to go to Blackburn, we said no so they stayed and for the most part with Lyle got on with the job - Bonne for me would surely have done the same
Could well be a decision that is the difference between 6th and 7th for us this season
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
Good idea. If he can’t get us into the playoffs this season, we should be looking for someone who has a good track record.
Hopefully we could attract someone quality like a manager who has never seen his team finish lower than 6th in League One.............. oh wait
Part of the issue now is that for the very first time Lee has the weight of expectation on his shoulders. That can weigh very heavy when things are not going to plan. He’s massively in credit after what he’s been through with the resources he had available. From now on he’s only got so much time to get things right. A little unfair perhaps because there are still restraints but nonetheless if we are not looking like getting near the playoffs by January then without doubt, fairly or not the natives will become restless.
If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
What the fuck have I just read.
With respect to Muttley, I find myself disagreeing with quite a few things they say. Nothing personal, we have just had differing opinions on several things.
I make them spot on about this though. I'm in also in agreement with Forever, I don't fully buy him wanting to leave. He didn't down tools, Bowyer was still picking him so I doubt he was mentioning it every 5 minutes. Selling Bonne for 2mil and being able to adequately replace him is good business. Selling him for 2mil and not being able to adequately replace him is terrible business.
Bowyer must still be thinking about that god damn draw with Birmingham, he finally gets money to spend but can't spend it as he would like with the salary cap. The injunction fucked him from doing anything before the cap was introduced. Yes a lot of other teams are in a similar boat but a lot of other teams either got players in before the cap or had a decent squad already that didn't need rebuilding like we did.
Having said that, I do think the team should be performing better than how it currently is but he needs time, if it's this bad in November, I would be quite worried.
Bonne wanted to go - his lack of effort in recent games was clear to see. Maybe QPR set a deadline on their bid or they were going elsewhere? No one knows what happened.
Fans want instant results which means throwing tantrums when you sell a player and don’t instantly replace him.
If we’re looking long term and trying to build a team by making sensible business decisions, you just can’t turn down a £2m fee with a sell on clause for a player who doesn’t want to be here.
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Poor Sunderland.
Didn't they pay something like £5m for Will Grigg too?
Just shows that the market is fraught with danger and easy to make an expensive mis-step
Leko, Field, Gallagher, Bielik, Cullen & Bonne.
I think Bow and Gallen can be trusted at very least with young up and coming loanees.
If it was a new manager doing this I would question it but Bowyer and Gallen certainly have enough credit for me to trust them
My guess, and hope is LB/SG can dig up another rough diamond from the lower league's.
Preferable to signing an unwanted player on the way down.
Not easy cos he needs to have reasonable experience. A gamble I know
So like Bonne 23 to 25/26 years old ideal.
I'm often wrong though 😸.
All the decent Prem youth have already got their loans. I doubt a fourth tier striker is going to fire us to third tier promotion. Bogle and Hiwula are alright but not what we need.
The month long delay due to the ESI injunction etc has properly shafted our season.
Sunderland and now us are doing it the other way round, so we have to find strikers that fit in with the way we play. You can do that at the top table, not so easy at our level.
Sunderland are a big strong side, but that is their weakness. Not enough craft. They are probably the best big and strong side in the league. Should see them into the playoffs.
Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
If we dont manage to get a replacement which also replaces Bonne's 11-goals from last season then thats on Lee for not getting a replacement in before selling Macca
If Bowyer comes out @ 5pm next Friday complaining that we couldnt get a striker over the line then pure and simple, its his own fault
I dont buy this whole "but he wanted to leave"
Half the squad probably want to play at a higher level if there is interest but you wouldn't allow a max exodus without having cover first... As others have said already; Lyle Taylor wanted to go to Brentford last season; Patrick Bauer in 2018/19 wanted to go to Blackburn, we said no so they stayed and for the most part with Lyle got on with the job - Bonne for me would surely have done the same
Could well be a decision that is the difference between 6th and 7th for us this season
Hopefully we could attract someone quality like a manager who has never seen his team finish lower than 6th in League One.............. oh wait
I make them spot on about this though. I'm in also in agreement with Forever, I don't fully buy him wanting to leave. He didn't down tools, Bowyer was still picking him so I doubt he was mentioning it every 5 minutes. Selling Bonne for 2mil and being able to adequately replace him is good business. Selling him for 2mil and not being able to adequately replace him is terrible business.
Having said that, I do think the team should be performing better than how it currently is but he needs time, if it's this bad in November, I would be quite worried.
Fans want instant results which means throwing tantrums when you sell a player and don’t instantly replace him.