Our midfield was dire today - lots of misplaced passes and left the defence under constant pressure. The defence may have made mistakes but the midfield did them no favours.
My wife said that I was wasting my time today (because I was watching football). At the end I told her that I think she was right. Now I'm reading about how I was wasting my time. That's just daft. Everyone go and do something less boring instead, and see you back here next week.
Crap game crap kick off time. Fans were not up for it neither were the players. Football matches should kick off at 3pm. The 2 home games against Cardiff and Sheff W are going to be dull affairs too no doubt. Feck off Sky
Thanks to the whims of Sky circumstances mean that I know nothing about this match other than that we lost to a penalty.
What sort of reception did Bauer get?
Bauer got a really good round of applause when his name was read out at the start of the game - Dont know if he did it deliberately but at the start of the second half he walked with Rudd to the goal in front of the North Stand and got another excellent piece of applause
End of the game he was the last player off the pitch (apart from those being interviewed by SKY) - He turned and clapped each of the East / West / North stands whilst walking off the pitch
Thanks to the whims of Sky circumstances mean that I know nothing about this match other than that we lost to a penalty.
What sort of reception did Bauer get?
Bauer got a really good round of applause when his name was read out at the start of the game - Dont know if he did it deliberately but at the start of the second half he walked with Rudd to the goal in front of the North Stand and got another excellent piece of applause
End of the game he was the last player off the pitch (apart from those being interviewed by SKY) - He turned and clapped each of the East / West / North stands whilst walking off the pitch
He did a big fart right in front of the North Stand.
We were atrocious as was the entire match. Preston did a job on us and started running down the clock once they had their goal. Was painful to watch.
Their striker dominated our defence in the air and helped them build from knock ons whilst we had no creativity or hold up play and were stagnant for long long periods.
Kayal had a few bright moments and Gallagher and Pratley were individually good but as a team that was the worst I've seen us for a long while. Thought our subs came too late and too piecemeal to offer any chance of momentum.
The first half formation didn't work at home, as Bonne had too little support. Gallagher of course was around him, Pratley did his best to join in and Purrington was quite advanced at times, but Kayal isn't that sort of player. In one break he played a really good pass forward, then moved backwards rather than up the pitch to support the attack.
Having said that, if anything things got worse in the second half and as Bowyer brought on attacking players, we then found ourselves not able to keep or get back possession
Worst we've played all season by quite a margin, well certainly from the games I've seen. Very disappointing but it was Kids For a Quid day and we always seem to put thise kids off returning with a poor performance!
But with our injury-hit low-budget squad it's asking a lot, even with a motivator like Lee Bowyer, to perform to the level we have been every week. Let's hope it was a blip.
Very rarely can we say it but this time LB got that all wrong.
We should have resorted to our normal game and played them off the park. Our two best players (Cullen and Gallagher) were over run because we had a seven man defence from the off.
Having said that, PNE would never have scored without the gift of a penalty and were the only poor footballing team I have seen in the division this season. If they finish top half then there is no footballing God.
Lobbing high balls down the channels and long punts for the big man up front, It was like the middle ages had returned to the Valley and we let them do it by backing off and sitting deep.
No panic but we should never have lost to that lot.
Last 9 games , 8 points , that’s relegation form . we enter the millwall fixture , shock horror , on probably the worse run of bowyers reign . staying up is our aim and we are well on our way to that but this league is so tight that we could get sucked in . A below par performance by many is of course allowed but please please please not the same against the scum next week cos I’m sick of the humiliation there .
We have two players in Williams and Taylor who are game changers and will come back in to our team once fit but they may be some time off .
I believe the crest of a wave that has carried us this far in the Championship is petering out and where as we previously looked more likely to win every game than lose it , we now look more likely to lose every game than win it .
With a limited squad at his disposal Lord Bowyer now has to work some magic to reignite the Addicks
Finish 4th bottom and above the scum and it’s a brilliant season , we’re more than capable of that let’s hope the scum stick to the other part .
Eddie Jones and Lee Bowyer didn't go from great Coaches to Crap coaches in a week.
Players aren't robots. Why did England go from their greatest every performance in a World cup to an error shrewn Inept showing in the final ? Losing your young tiger Sinckler knocked out in the second minute didn't help and to TBF the Springboks were ruthless in their execution of their game plan. But the fact that nearly every England player made a mistake of some kind meant they couldn't carry out Eddie Jones game plan.
12 noon KO, the Cafc crowd are 99% sober, Lee Bowyer goes with the lone striker, playing Kayla instead of Leko. Despite the defensive looking line up Purrington played his wing back role well and had a decent shot ( should've gone for the far post though) and put a great cross for Gallagher who headed wide. Other than Sarr who goes from the sublime to the Ridiculous in the 1st half we played OK despite missing the X factor players Taylor and Williams. We played 3-5-1-1 in the First half and unless you have a Fosu type player on top form playing behind the main striker its not ideal at home unless you play Derby County.
Bowyer took Sarr off which even though appeared to be the popular choice because he was so flaky, affected the formation and Purrington stopped being an attacking threat 2nd half. Young Gallagher never stopped trying but his passing was off at times and we became disjointed and Preston were now in cruise control. Despite our inept 2nd half performance we could have mugged a draw if Purrington had a right foot in the dying embers of the game.
Seven days can be a long time in Politics, Rugby and Football, so let's hope that we turn up as a team to face our Nemesis next week. Strap yourselves in for the roller coaster ride.
They did a job on us yesterday. We couldn't build from the back as we normally do as they were shutting off the passing options through their press. I thought their approach was to suffocate us rather than outplay us, but it worked. We needed that Gallagher header to go in and it would have opened them up.
That was a game of two halves: the first was watchable (a few good passing moves by both sides), the second was not.
We might be able to get away with one or two players having an off day but not the majority of the team. Dillon, Pratley, and Conor turned up, the others just phoned in a performance.
What did we learn yesterday?
- Sunday midday kick-offs are just wrong. The players didn't look too interested and the crowd definitely wasn't; a bad combination for a television event.
- BeckenSarr and Pearce can't play in the same team. It's been seen over the last couple of seasons either with the pair of them as centre-backs or with the Enforcer at left-back - it just doesn't work. I don't know why but having them both in the defence brings down their performance and that of the rest of the defence. Naby was brilliant last year ... without the skipper in the team. If Lord Bowyer is going to play three at the back it has to be BFG II, Pratley, and either BeckenSarr or Pearce.
- Preston were bloody awful to watch, cynical and timewasting. On the radio Paul Parker was calling out their players for not just going down too easily when in close proximity to Charlton players to get free kicks/stop play but getting into position to do that prior to the pass/cross being made instead of trying to defend the ball.
- The only way Preston was going to score yesterday was with a penalty. For all their attempts at goal Dillon only had to make a couple of good saves and he was very close to saving the pen (that's how it looked from my prime vantage point about 200 yards away!).
- Preston may be reporting Stoke for an illegal approach for Alex Neil but the way Preston approached yesterday seemed to be like Neil's interview presentation for the job - Pulis without the baseball cap. I don't recall him sending out Norwich sides like that.
- As bad as Preston's game management was yesterday isn't that actually a back-handed compliment to Lord Bowyer and the way he's got this Charlton side performing? The only way Preston could beat us was by turning the game into something other than football.
- Refs in this division are no better than in Division Three, they just have a bigger ego.
- Although we're on a "poor run of form" with only two wins in nine (W2 D2 L5) it doesn't really feel like that given the teams we've played in the last couple of months. I didn't see the Birmingham and Wigan matches but it sounds like only those results were worrying as there has been a good response to those defeats. Since then we've beaten Leeds (currently 2nd) and Derby (15th but expected to be in promotion contention), drawn with West Brom (4th) and Fulham (8th), and suffered late defeats to Swansea (3rd) and Bristol City (6th) before yesterday's loss to Preston (1st). If we'd had these results against the relegation-battlers then it would be cause for concern; November and December will be more telling for where the rest of our season may be heading.
- Lord Bowyer has to make sure the players are awake and alive for the next match and they put in a better shift than yesterday. Against Preston we were up against anti-football, next week it's the anti-Christ!
Been to 4 games this season, we won the first and have lost the other 3. Luckily for Charlton I do not have a ticket for the Millwall match and cannot make the next two home ones. Should see our form pick up.
Every mistake Sarr makes appears worse because he looks clumsy. Pearce makes as many errors that lead to goals if not more. Yesterday was a case in point. He was pushed by Stockley, which he wasn't ready for and what led to him putting his arms around him as he was out of position. These things happen.
It was a game where we missed Williams' runs and Taylor's devilment.
That was our worst performance of the season: we never got out of first gear. Defence was strewn with errors, midfield was vapid, attack non-existent.
The stats say we have had the fewest shots of all teams in the Championship this season. In that light, Bowyer's decision to start with only one striker - recalling the grim days under Robinson - does seem perverse. When the substitutions were made, Aneke won a few aerial balls and had more physical presence than Leko. I would start Aneke with Bonne at Millwall next Saturday.
Pun of the afternoon was quipped by my neighbour in the Covered End. When Oztumer came on as sub in the 87th minute: "Too little, too late."
I'm not overly concerned by the "fewest number of shots in Christendom" stat - I'd rather we held onto the ball a bit longer to fashion a proper opening than just blazing away from 25 yards and turning the ball back to the oppo.
We're not playing basketball where there's a shot clock, we can take our time to create a decent chance.
We've scored 21 goals so far this season which puts in 9th place in the division - Preston are top with 28, Boro bottom with 7 - which indicates that we're not doing too bad in this respect especially when you couple that with an equal-7th defence (17 conceded - Leeds with 8 and Barnsley 29 top and tail that stat).
Have always said that Pearce fouls too much & often gives away a foul by climbing or holding the opposition player. Like to see Lockyer & Oshilaja in defence (if Oshilaja is not being used as a right wing back)
I'm not overly concerned by the "fewest number of shots in Christendom" stat - I'd rather we held onto the ball a bit longer to fashion a proper opening than just blazing away from 25 yards and turning the ball back to the oppo.
We're not playing basketball where there's a shot clock, we can take our time to create a decent chance.
We've scored 21 goals so far this season which puts in 9th place in the division - Preston are top with 28, Boro bottom with 7 - which indicates that we're not doing too bad in this respect especially when you couple that with an equal-7th defence (17 conceded - Leeds with 8 and Barnsley 29 top and tail that stat).
I'm amazed at that stat after yesterday's game. Preston certainly didn't play like a team likely to score a lot of goals
I'm not overly concerned by the "fewest number of shots in Christendom" stat - I'd rather we held onto the ball a bit longer to fashion a proper opening than just blazing away from 25 yards and turning the ball back to the oppo.
We're not playing basketball where there's a shot clock, we can take our time to create a decent chance.
We've scored 21 goals so far this season which puts in 9th place in the division - Preston are top with 28, Boro bottom with 7 - which indicates that we're not doing too bad in this respect especially when you couple that with an equal-7th defence (17 conceded - Leeds with 8 and Barnsley 29 top and tail that stat).
I'm amazed at that stat after yesterday's game. Preston certainly didn't play like a team likely to score a lot of goals
Just had a quick look at Preston's earlier results: they scored five against Barnsley; three against Blackburn, Bristol City, Stoke, Wigan.
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At the end I told her that I think she was right.
Now I'm reading about how I was wasting my time.
That's just daft.
Everyone go and do something less boring instead, and see you back here next week.
What sort of reception did Bauer get?
End of the game he was the last player off the pitch (apart from those being interviewed by SKY) - He turned and clapped each of the East / West / North stands whilst walking off the pitch
Their striker dominated our defence in the air and helped them build from knock ons whilst we had no creativity or hold up play and were stagnant for long long periods.
Kayal had a few bright moments and Gallagher and Pratley were individually good but as a team that was the worst I've seen us for a long while. Thought our subs came too late and too piecemeal to offer any chance of momentum.
Having said that, if anything things got worse in the second half and as Bowyer brought on attacking players, we then found ourselves not able to keep or get back possession
We should have resorted to our normal game and played them off the park. Our two best players (Cullen and Gallagher) were over run because we had a seven man defence from the off.
Having said that, PNE would never have scored without the gift of a penalty and were the only poor footballing team I have seen in the division this season. If they finish top half then there is no footballing God.
Lobbing high balls down the channels and long punts for the big man up front, It was like the middle ages had returned to the Valley and we let them do it by backing off and sitting deep.
No panic but we should never have lost to that lot.
we enter the millwall fixture , shock horror , on probably the worse run of bowyers reign .
staying up is our aim and we are well on our way to that but this league is so tight that we could get sucked in .
A below par performance by many is of course allowed but please please please not the same against the scum next week cos I’m sick of the humiliation there .
We have two players in Williams and Taylor who are game changers and will come back in to our team once fit but they may be some time off .
I believe the crest of a wave that has carried us this far in the Championship is petering out and where as we previously looked more likely to win every game than lose it , we now look more likely to lose every game than win it .
With a limited squad at his disposal Lord Bowyer now has to work some magic to reignite the Addicks
Finish 4th bottom and above the scum and it’s a brilliant season , we’re more than capable of that let’s hope the scum stick to the other part .
Players aren't robots. Why did England go from their greatest every performance in a World cup to an error shrewn Inept showing in the final ? Losing your young tiger Sinckler knocked out in the second minute didn't help and to TBF the Springboks were ruthless in their execution of their game plan. But the fact that nearly every England player made a mistake of some kind meant they couldn't carry out Eddie Jones game plan.
12 noon KO, the Cafc crowd are 99% sober, Lee Bowyer goes with the lone striker, playing Kayla instead of Leko. Despite the defensive looking line up Purrington played his wing back role well and had a decent shot ( should've gone for the far post though) and put a great cross for Gallagher who headed wide. Other than Sarr who goes from the sublime to the Ridiculous in the 1st half we played OK despite missing the X factor players Taylor and Williams.
We played 3-5-1-1 in the First half and unless you have a Fosu type player on top form playing behind the main striker its not ideal at home unless you play Derby County.
Bowyer took Sarr off which even though appeared to be the popular choice because he was so flaky, affected the formation and Purrington stopped being an attacking threat 2nd half. Young Gallagher never stopped trying but his passing was off at times and we became disjointed and Preston were now in cruise control.
Despite our inept 2nd half performance we could have mugged a draw if Purrington had a right foot in the dying embers of the game.
Seven days can be a long time in Politics, Rugby and Football, so let's hope that we turn up as a team to face our Nemesis next week. Strap yourselves in for the roller coaster ride.
We might be able to get away with one or two players having an off day but not the majority of the team. Dillon, Pratley, and Conor turned up, the others just phoned in a performance.
What did we learn yesterday?
- Sunday midday kick-offs are just wrong. The players didn't look too interested and the crowd definitely wasn't; a bad combination for a television event.
- BeckenSarr and Pearce can't play in the same team. It's been seen over the last couple of seasons either with the pair of them as centre-backs or with the Enforcer at left-back - it just doesn't work. I don't know why but having them both in the defence brings down their performance and that of the rest of the defence. Naby was brilliant last year ... without the skipper in the team. If Lord Bowyer is going to play three at the back it has to be BFG II, Pratley, and either BeckenSarr or Pearce.
- Preston were bloody awful to watch, cynical and timewasting. On the radio Paul Parker was calling out their players for not just going down too easily when in close proximity to Charlton players to get free kicks/stop play but getting into position to do that prior to the pass/cross being made instead of trying to defend the ball.
- The only way Preston was going to score yesterday was with a penalty. For all their attempts at goal Dillon only had to make a couple of good saves and he was very close to saving the pen (that's how it looked from my prime vantage point about 200 yards away!).
- Preston may be reporting Stoke for an illegal approach for Alex Neil but the way Preston approached yesterday seemed to be like Neil's interview presentation for the job - Pulis without the baseball cap. I don't recall him sending out Norwich sides like that.
- As bad as Preston's game management was yesterday isn't that actually a back-handed compliment to Lord Bowyer and the way he's got this Charlton side performing? The only way Preston could beat us was by turning the game into something other than football.
- Refs in this division are no better than in Division Three, they just have a bigger ego.
- Although we're on a "poor run of form" with only two wins in nine (W2 D2 L5) it doesn't really feel like that given the teams we've played in the last couple of months. I didn't see the Birmingham and Wigan matches but it sounds like only those results were worrying as there has been a good response to those defeats. Since then we've beaten Leeds (currently 2nd) and Derby (15th but expected to be in promotion contention), drawn with West Brom (4th) and Fulham (8th), and suffered late defeats to Swansea (3rd) and Bristol City (6th) before yesterday's loss to Preston (1st). If we'd had these results against the relegation-battlers then it would be cause for concern; November and December will be more telling for where the rest of our season may be heading.
- Lord Bowyer has to make sure the players are awake and alive for the next match and they put in a better shift than yesterday. Against Preston we were up against anti-football, next week it's the anti-Christ!
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/jason-pearce-im-disappointed-as-i-lost-charlton-the-game-against-preston/
And Sarr's the liability? Not giving this up ffs, I've seen Pearce getting 7 in player ratings
It was a game where we missed Williams' runs and Taylor's devilment.
The stats say we have had the fewest shots of all teams in the Championship this season. In that light, Bowyer's decision to start with only one striker - recalling the grim days under Robinson - does seem perverse. When the substitutions were made, Aneke won a few aerial balls and had more physical presence than Leko. I would start Aneke with Bonne at Millwall next Saturday.
Pun of the afternoon was quipped by my neighbour in the Covered End. When Oztumer came on as sub in the 87th minute: "Too little, too late."
We're not playing basketball where there's a shot clock, we can take our time to create a decent chance.
We've scored 21 goals so far this season which puts in 9th place in the division - Preston are top with 28, Boro bottom with 7 - which indicates that we're not doing too bad in this respect especially when you couple that with an equal-7th defence (17 conceded - Leeds with 8 and Barnsley 29 top and tail that stat).