Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at all
Why have they got a lack of dosh? We know they are making offers for players but teams are moving the goal post at the last minute (Blackpool being one example).
We’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.
I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
Blackpool didn't move the goalposts at the "last minute"
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
Which suggests that esi have a plan and a budget and are not prepared to pay over the top prices. It doesn’t prove they are skint.
Over the top price or the market rate. His goals increase his value
Exactly. I should imagine Macauley Bonne's value has massively increased in the same way. Y
Yes, perfect comparison.
If Forest or Brentford said
"We'll give you £200k for Bonne cos that's what the price was in July"
We'd laugh at them but isn't that all that Blackpool have done?
If Gallen doesnt think the Blackpool striker is worth that much then I'm happy with that.
Personally I'm frustrated that we've not signed players, or the coaches, but realise that it's never easy and rarely straight forward.
The time, IMHO, to judge the window is once it's closed but fans are entitled to question what has and hasn't happened so far and to discuss the business plan without being called "bedwetters".
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Exactly, bored of reading about "bedwetters" because fans are concerned our squad is currently in freefall. Every right to show that level of frustration.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
Bowyer now happy with his contract and just waiting for the other two to catch up and then all sign. If those three were our only bit of business this window it will have been a good one.
But we want MORE! Deals have been offered and players agents and clubs are looking around to see if other better offers come in. We probably have deals we could do now, but should we? Or should wait to see if targets higher up the list come in? If the Liverpool deal happens are we not interested in the Rangers lad - or is it the other way round? Or both? Could we go back to Blackpool or are we onto someone better?
All so exciting and would so love to know. Do we get it all or nothing? If I could shadow anyone it would be SG right now. COYR. Best window ever.
I’ll ask you that again in May if we finish bottom three.
Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at all
Why have they got a lack of dosh? We know they are making offers for players but teams are moving the goal post at the last minute (Blackpool being one example).
We’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.
I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
Blackpool didn't move the goalposts at the "last minute"
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
Which suggests that esi have a plan and a budget and are not prepared to pay over the top prices. It doesn’t prove they are skint.
Over the top price or the market rate. His goals increase his value
Exactly. I should imagine Macauley Bonne's value has massively increased in the same way. Y
Yes, perfect comparison.
If Forest or Brentford said
"We'll give you £200k for Bonne cos that's what the price was in July"
We'd laugh at them but isn't that all that Blackpool have done?
If Gallen doesnt think the Blackpool striker is worth that much then I'm happy with that.
Personally I'm frustrated that we've not signed players, or the coaches, but realise that it's never easy and rarely straight forward.
The time, IMHO, to judge the window is once it's closed but fans are entitled to question what has and hasn't happened so far and to discuss the business plan without being called "bedwetters".
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Exactly, bored of reading about "bedwetters" because fans are concerned our squad is currently in freefall. Every right to show that level of frustration.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
And many of us are also bored of the 'they must be skint'...'they aren't very good at there job' posts, as if others are blind to what they think they can see.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?
Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at all
Why have they got a lack of dosh? We know they are making offers for players but teams are moving the goal post at the last minute (Blackpool being one example).
We’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.
I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
Blackpool didn't move the goalposts at the "last minute"
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
This. If a week is a long time in Politics, it could be 3 losses and the manager can be under pressure in football. In Bonne case, in 3 games he went from "looking like a non League striker" quote on CL, to Macauley's agent putting out a story that Newcastle and Brighton were watching him ! TBF after his Two goals, assist and winning most ball in the air against Bristol City, Cafc would value him at least 10x more than we rated him in August, so no blame attached to Blackpool. All club use a pro rata system and strikers values goes up as each goal hits the back of the net; which is good Football acumen.
A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?
Requirements could be changing if the likes of Cullen, Field, Taylor, Aneke are coming back.
A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?
Yes and those don't need to wait until the end of the window.
I do wonder... even though we did a great job with Conor Gallagher, Chelsea recalling him and sending him out to another Championship club was not a good look for us. I can see Premiership clubs wondering what happened there and thinking twice about loaning us their youngster, as wrong as that would be.
Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at all
Why have they got a lack of dosh? We know they are making offers for players but teams are moving the goal post at the last minute (Blackpool being one example).
We’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.
I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
Blackpool didn't move the goalposts at the "last minute"
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
Which suggests that esi have a plan and a budget and are not prepared to pay over the top prices. It doesn’t prove they are skint.
Over the top price or the market rate. His goals increase his value
Exactly. I should imagine Macauley Bonne's value has massively increased in the same way. Y
Yes, perfect comparison.
If Forest or Brentford said
"We'll give you £200k for Bonne cos that's what the price was in July"
We'd laugh at them but isn't that all that Blackpool have done?
If Gallen doesnt think the Blackpool striker is worth that much then I'm happy with that.
Personally I'm frustrated that we've not signed players, or the coaches, but realise that it's never easy and rarely straight forward.
The time, IMHO, to judge the window is once it's closed but fans are entitled to question what has and hasn't happened so far and to discuss the business plan without being called "bedwetters".
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Exactly, bored of reading about "bedwetters" because fans are concerned our squad is currently in freefall. Every right to show that level of frustration.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
And many of us are also bored of the 'they must be skint'...'they aren't very good at there job' posts, as if others are blind to what they think they can see.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
That's fair, I don't think any of us really know how much they are willing to spend, nor should we. We definitely need to show some intention in the next 10 days though, I would imagine that is happening behind the scenes.
Incredibly frustrating, would be a good signing for us
More to the point he'd be a GREAT signing for them. They play nice stuff but struggle to score. If he can poach a few goals before the end of the season, that could make the difference between relegation and survival
A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?
Yes and those don't need to wait until the end of the window.
I do wonder... even though we did a great job with Conor Gallagher, Chelsea recalling him and sending him out to another Championship club was not a good look for us. I can see Premiership clubs wondering what happened there and thinking twice about loaning us their youngster, as wrong as that would be.
Could work the other way. They could see that we developed him so far ahead of schedule that he was ready to take the next step in a loan 6 months earlier than they'd anticipated, which means we could end up having teams looking at us as a great option for a 6 month loan for their player to be ready for progressing in the summer.
I think the frustration is because MS has come in with promises about deals and 'marquee signings', and teased the twittersphere by implying that stuff is going to happen soon.
He should have come in and played transfer activity down rather than being a hype man, but that's down to his inexperience. Everyone knows Jan is tough, it takes time to get deals done, and when you're in our position and run of form then persuading players that they won't be in league one next year can be difficult.
There will be a flurry of activity next week and luckily we only have 1 game between now and then. Yes we wanted things to happen sooner, but it's a players and agents market in January.
A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?
Yes and those don't need to wait until the end of the window.
I do wonder... even though we did a great job with Conor Gallagher, Chelsea recalling him and sending him out to another Championship club was not a good look for us. I can see Premiership clubs wondering what happened there and thinking twice about loaning us their youngster, as wrong as that would be.
Could work the other way. They could see that we developed him so far ahead of schedule that he was ready to take the next step in a loan 6 months earlier than they'd anticipated, which means we could end up having teams looking at us as a great option for a 6 month loan for their player to be ready for progressing in the summer.
I don't know if another Championship club looks like 'the next step'. To outside eyes it looks like they no longer trusted us to develop their player, or something else was wrong. Not saying that's the truth of the matter but the optics weren't good.
Aren’t Chelsea quite a different model to most Premier League teams though ? How many players do Chelsea have out on loan at any one time 50 ? They use the loan system to make money. Hoover up dozens of youngsters and develop them to a point where they can go out on loan and then get sold without any real intention of them ever getting into Chelsea’s first team squad. Jay Dasilva is a prime example. No idea why they wanted to shift Gallagher but it will only be because that is what they think helps him the most. The fact it’s questionable is immaterial. I still think that Charlton are seen as a good club to send PL youngsters. I still believe we need to build closer ties to the London PL clubs in order to get loans from them. That is a huge pool of talent and is easier for the parent club to maintain contact for the player.
Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris
Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.
Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris
Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.
Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris
Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.
Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris
Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.
There have been some Clarke Harris rumours and another player from them but nothing from a proper source. I have no doubt we've make offers for several players, most of which won't come off. Saw the Bristol Rovers chairman wanted 2m for him, not that it means they'll only settle for that sum.
Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris
Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.
Source? when it’s on the official site my brothers, mates, ex girlfriends boss supports them and says he is s**t underwhelmed why are we buying from league 1 sounds promising how tall? whelmed panic buy one for the future wages demand to high league 1, proves esi are skint good signing, esi mean business
I think I’ve covered most bases and potentially saved people reading 150 new posts
Deals have been offered and players agents and clubs are looking around to see if other better offers come in. We probably have deals we could do now, but should we?
Or should wait to see if targets higher up the list come in? If the Liverpool deal happens are we not interested in the Rangers lad - or is it the other way round? Or both? Could we go back to Blackpool or are we onto someone better?
A lot of people seem to be forgetting Bowyer's way of thinking in the transfer window.
Obviously he's concerned to get players in ...... but he always tries to get the players he wants; the players that can improve the team. If necessary he'll hang on to the last day of the window to get the player he wants, rather than just another average squad player to make up numbers.
Sure, it can backfire ..... as the window was closing last January, he lost out to the players he wanted - and in desperation, Josh Parker was signed, just because he needed a dependable player with the right attitude, to make up the squad numbers.
On the other hand, the previous summer window, he determinedly hung on all through it for Cullen and Bielik, signing them right towards the end of the window. Those 2 players proved key to our promotion success last season.
I've faith that Bowyer's intention will be to sign the best players he can get for his way of setting up the team. And the targets will have already been identified.
Bowyer and Gallen might well be holding off signing their 2nd choices, while the 1st choices may still be available.
Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris
Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.
Age: 25 Height: 183cm (6ft) Played : 122 (99) not sure if 99 is starts or subs. Goals scored: 49 Special features: Silly tattoos.
This season (19/20) Played 26 Goals Scored 12 Assists 1
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I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
Incredibly frustrating, would be a good signing for us
If a week is a long time in Politics, it could be 3 losses and the manager can be under pressure in football. In Bonne case, in 3 games he went from "looking like a non League striker" quote on CL, to Macauley's agent putting out a story that Newcastle and Brighton were watching him ! TBF after his Two goals, assist and winning most ball in the air against Bristol City, Cafc would value him at least 10x more than we rated him in August, so no blame attached to Blackpool. All club use a pro rata system and strikers values goes up as each goal hits the back of the net; which is good Football acumen.
I do wonder... even though we did a great job with Conor Gallagher, Chelsea recalling him and sending him out to another Championship club was not a good look for us. I can see Premiership clubs wondering what happened there and thinking twice about loaning us their youngster, as wrong as that would be.
He should have come in and played transfer activity down rather than being a hype man, but that's down to his inexperience. Everyone knows Jan is tough, it takes time to get deals done, and when you're in our position and run of form then persuading players that they won't be in league one next year can be difficult.
There will be a flurry of activity next week and luckily we only have 1 game between now and then. Yes we wanted things to happen sooner, but it's a players and agents market in January.
when it’s on the official site
my brothers, mates, ex girlfriends boss supports them and says he is s**t
underwhelmed
why are we buying from league 1
sounds promising
how tall?
whelmed
panic buy
one for the future
wages demand to high
league 1, proves esi are skint
good signing, esi mean business
I think I’ve covered most bases and potentially saved people reading 150 new posts
A lot of people seem to be forgetting Bowyer's way of thinking in the transfer window.
Obviously he's concerned to get players in ...... but he always tries to get the players he wants; the players that can improve the team.
If necessary he'll hang on to the last day of the window to get the player he wants, rather than just another average squad player to make up numbers.
Sure, it can backfire ..... as the window was closing last January, he lost out to the players he wanted - and in desperation, Josh Parker was signed, just because he needed a dependable player with the right attitude, to make up the squad numbers.
On the other hand, the previous summer window, he determinedly hung on all through it for Cullen and Bielik, signing them right towards the end of the window. Those 2 players proved key to our promotion success last season.
I've faith that Bowyer's intention will be to sign the best players he can get for his way of setting up the team.
And the targets will have already been identified.
Bowyer and Gallen might well be holding off signing their 2nd choices, while the 1st choices may still be available.
Height: 183cm (6ft)
Played : 122 (99) not sure if 99 is starts or subs.
Goals scored: 49
Special features: Silly tattoos.
This season (19/20)
Played 26
Goals Scored 12
Assists 1