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The influence of the EU on Britain.

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  • edited July 2018
    cabbles said:

    So what happened today? Are we all in agreement re: the way forward and it’s just formalities from this point on

    its a shitfest. As I said yesterday, Brexit now does not Brexit & the main Brexiteers in the Cabinet are spinless twunks who value their job over their consciences. Shame on them all.

    Interesting to hear Bill Cash on Newsnight eatlier. He thinks what had been "agreed" may not be lawful under the Repeal bill that was passed by the Commons this week.

    On any case it wont matter because the other 26 EU countries wont agree to it anyway.
  • So brexit means brexit means not brexit means probable rejection by the EU means hard brexit means extended negotiations means a parliamentary vote means a people's vote means a new prime minister.
    All part of the brexiters cunning plan.
  • I see loads of people think this is 'the deal '.
    It is merely the beginning.
  • Yeah, how long until we take it to the EU and they reject it?
  • Stig said:

    cabbles said:

    So what happened today? Are we all in agreement re: the way forward and it’s just formalities from this point on

    its a shitfest. As I said yesterday, Brexit now does not Brexit & the main Brexiteers in the Cabinet are spinless twunks who value their job over their consciences. Shame on them all.

    Interesting to hear Bill Cash on Newsnight eatlier. He thinks what had been "agreed" may not be lawful under the Repeal bill that was passed by the Commons this week.

    On any case it wont matter because the other 26 EU countries wont agree to it anyway.
    We should never forget that the only reason we're in this 'shiftiest' at all, is because the spineless twunk of an ex-Prime Minister who valued his job over his conscience.
    Totally agree......even Danny Dyer thinks so.

  • Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions

    That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.
    Ah. Portugal. I love it too




  • Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions

    That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.
    Ah. Portugal. I love it too

    Very creepy.



  • Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions

    That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.
    Ah. Portugal. I love it too

    Very creepy.
    Change the record Chippy. I wouldn’t stalk someone like you if you were covered in strawberries and cream.

    I take the piss cos you are predictable and a Walter Mitty.




  • Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions

    That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.
    Ah. Portugal. I love it too

    Very creepy.
    Change the record Chippy. I wouldn’t stalk someone like you if you were covered in strawberries and cream.

    I take the piss cos you are predictable and a Walter Mitty.

    Ditto but it upsets you... And you do.
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  • Astonishing. It's taken the government two years to decide what they think Brexit might mean. But they don't seem to have worked out which bits of the UK they mean.
  • Stig said:

    cabbles said:

    So what happened today? Are we all in agreement re: the way forward and it’s just formalities from this point on

    its a shitfest. As I said yesterday, Brexit now does not Brexit & the main Brexiteers in the Cabinet are spinless twunks who value their job over their consciences. Shame on them all.

    Interesting to hear Bill Cash on Newsnight eatlier. He thinks what had been "agreed" may not be lawful under the Repeal bill that was passed by the Commons this week.

    On any case it wont matter because the other 26 EU countries wont agree to it anyway.
    We should never forget that the only reason we're in this 'shiftiest' at all, is because the spineless twunk of an ex-Prime Minister who valued his job over his conscience.
    It only makes sense now why he seemed so upbeat about resigning

    https://youtu.be/-Gz6mZYxS0A

    He shafted us and he knew it but it didn't matter because it was everyone else's problem. I've gone from laughing at that video at the time to it making me angry now!
  • Still no solution to the Irish border in these latest proposals.
    I expect they are unacceptable to the wider EU anyway.
  • seth plum said:

    Still no solution to the Irish border in these latest proposals.
    I expect they are unacceptable to the wider EU anyway.

    Was there anything in the propodals pertaining directly to the Irish border ?? I didn't hear anything in the news after the meeting & I think the meeting was primarily to get/keep everyone on side.

    White paper out next week so should be in there.......but whatever has been "agreed" by the cabinet it sure as hell wont be by some
    backbenchers & the EU.
  • seth plum said:

    Still no solution to the Irish border in these latest proposals.
    I expect they are unacceptable to the wider EU anyway.

    It doesn't matter.


    Footballs coming home x
  • I have read the three page summary of May's plan and it sounds broadly sensible. However I don't think it will be accepted by the EU who I think will tell us it's Norway, Canada or no deal and we'll have to pick one.
  • Will we reach the point when pro brexit voters admit they didn't know what they were voting for, or is the present nightmare to be seen as all part of the brexit voters plan?
  • They didn’t know what they voted for. Our government still doesn’t know what they voted for and the 27 still don’t know either.
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  • The would've thought the Single Market was a dating site, and the Customs Union a porn site specializing in the Missionary Position.
  • seth plum said:

    The would've thought the Single Market was a dating site, and the Customs Union a porn site specializing in the Missionary Position.

    That says more about you Seth ;0)

  • seth plum said:

    Oi!


    Nothing wrong with the missionary position
  • What was it Jomo Kenyatta said about British Missionaries (you know, those one who spread 'British values')?
    "The white man came and encouraged us to kneel down and pray, and when we opened our eyes our land was gone".
  • The deal that the cabinet has signed up to is sufficiently soft to ensure it will get softer after negotiations with the EU. It isn't going to get harder and there is always some give or take when negotiating. I think it is a positive development as we have a position to negotiate for the first time. The big question is whether the hardline Brexiters are going to fight it. It would be a mistake if they did as they are not in the majority so they could scupper Brexit altogether if they don't shut up now. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks. This is an important put up or shut up point.
  • Is the phrase 'polishing a turd' the same as 'putting lipstick on a pig', or is there a subtle difference?
  • seth plum said:

    What was it Jomo Kenyatta said about British Missionaries (you know, those one who spread 'British values')?
    "The white man came and encouraged us to kneel down and pray, and when we opened our eyes our land was gone".

    What the hell has this got to do with this thread.... Your posts get more bizarre everyday... No doubt your other inmates will think this is great.
  • seth plum said:

    What was it Jomo Kenyatta said about British Missionaries (you know, those one who spread 'British values')?
    "The white man came and encouraged us to kneel down and pray, and when we opened our eyes our land was gone".

    Wtf
  • edited July 2018
    seth plum said:

    Will we reach the point when pro brexit voters admit they didn't know what they were voting for, or is the present nightmare to be seen as all part of the brexit voters plan?

    back to that old chestnut again are we.

    I know what I voted for......can't talk for the other 18m leave voters.

    The problem is The Government didn't realise what leave meant & still don't. Should never have had a remainer as the leader of the party, either before the Referendum or after.

    The worst thing that has happend in British politics over the last 3 years is Corbyn being elected Labour leader. Virtually anyone else (apart from Diane Abbott) & the country would now be pushing for a vote of no confidence & a Labour landslide.
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