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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • edited August 2017
    dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    We had him on trial at one point.

    https://www.forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/54010/osman-sow/p1

    I heard the move has fallen through after KM made a right pigs ear of the negotiations. He's signing for Bolton.
  • I really like Mag, but I worry about his injury record. Rico Henry Irving Fairchild Hackett may be a great bet for the future and could be a good impact sub, but in his first season can't be expected to get to double figures (sorry Henry). Let's hope KR can get the Belgium bunglers to loosen the purse strings (removes rose coloured classes and is hit by reality of the last 3 years).
    Of course we always have big Lee
  • Pay Darren Bent what he wants.

    NB - isn't a rumour.
  • dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    He looked good at Hearts and scored goals. He's been playing in China then the UAE for the past year and a half. I imagine there would be a huge question surrounding his fitness and sharpness given he hasn't had a pre-season and he's been playing in poor leagues the last couple years.
  • SDAddick said:

    dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    He looked good at Hearts and scored goals. He's been playing in China then the UAE for the past year and a half. I imagine there would be a huge question surrounding his fitness and sharpness given he hasn't had a pre-season and he's been playing in poor leagues the last couple years.
    Don't tell me Driesen's been at it again with his recommendations.
  • edited August 2017

    Of the teams prompted last season, only Sheff U had a player who hit over 20 goals (Billy Sharpe). In fact only 2 players in total for the whole league managed 20 goals or more (Bury's James Vaughan was the second one) Lee Gregory was Millwall's top scorer with 17 (eight of which were penalties), and Bolton finished second despite not having a single player that even made double figures (but they did have 4 on 9 goals each).

    http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-league-one-2016-2017/

    Last season was a bit of an anomaly and there are usually more like 4 or 5 players that hit 20+ goals, but having one is not a guarantee of promotion and nor is not having one a guaranteed roadblock to promotion.

    And because I'm really bored at work I thought it'd be interesting to see what effect it has when you remove penalties from a player's scoring record (I think this a fairer reflection of how good a goal scorer a player is because the number of penalty chances any player gets in a season is a large variable).

    For us Ricky jumps from being ranked 12th to joint 5th. Josh goes from 22nd to 16th. Interestingly, without penalties, our two top scorers scored a combined 23 vs 19 for Millwall's pair of Gregory and Morison who were widely regarded as an excellent front pairing, but they also had O'Brien who equaled Ricky's tally.

  • RedChaser said:

    SDAddick said:

    dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    He looked good at Hearts and scored goals. He's been playing in China then the UAE for the past year and a half. I imagine there would be a huge question surrounding his fitness and sharpness given he hasn't had a pre-season and he's been playing in poor leagues the last couple years.
    Don't tell me Driesen's been at it again with his recommendations.
    It definitely feels like a signing that would be good on FM.

    I don't know I think it's a high risk, possibly high reward situation. If he finds his Hearts form then he looks a decent signing. Doubt we'll match his Chinese or UAE wages, but maybe he's ready to take the pay cut.

    Again, it's hard because we're looking for maybe a second or third choice center forward who can play up front on their own and score goals. I suspect that is going to require taking a punt on someone, whether it's a free agent or a loan or perhaps someone not proven at this level.
  • I'm sure at the beginning of pre season Sow was top of KR's wanted list.
  • I'm sure at the beginning of pre season Sow was top of KR's wanted list.

    Obviously you're being sarcastic but things change over the course of a window. I think he did the right thing by giving Tony Watt a chance to prove himself. A fit and firing Tony Watt is almost certainly better than any center forward we're going to bring in, and it's just unfortunate that a fit and firing Tony Watt doesn't seem to exist anymore.

    It would be naive for interest in players not to shift as some become available and others aren't. See the Louis Thompson saga from last year. We chased him for something like two months and it didn't come off. That was insane.
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  • We are really (pork)scratching around now for a striker.
  • Scoham said:

    dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    We had him on trial at one point.

    https://www.forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/54010/osman-sow/p1

    I heard the move has fallen through after KM made a right pigs ear of the negotiations. He's signing for Bolton.
    Very good @Scoham, great minds and all that............Bolton, the Trotters have a like :wink: .
  • His goal scoring record looks a bit streaky to me.
  • edited August 2017
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  • dickplumb said:

    I hear that Sow hogs the ball.

    Didn't he used to play for the Trotters.
  • Crackling good striker, brain as well as brawn
  • SDAddick said:

    RedChaser said:

    SDAddick said:

    dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    He looked good at Hearts and scored goals. He's been playing in China then the UAE for the past year and a half. I imagine there would be a huge question surrounding his fitness and sharpness given he hasn't had a pre-season and he's been playing in poor leagues the last couple years.
    Don't tell me Driesen's been at it again with his recommendations.
    It definitely feels like a signing that would be good on FM.

    I don't know I think it's a high risk, possibly high reward situation. If he finds his Hearts form then he looks a decent signing. Doubt we'll match his Chinese or UAE wages, but maybe he's ready to take the pay cut.

    Again, it's hard because we're looking for maybe a second or third choice center forward who can play up front on their own and score goals. I suspect that is going to require taking a punt on someone, whether it's a free agent or a loan or perhaps someone not proven at this level.
    Oh god really? Second or third choice after Magennis and Novak. That's pretty depressing.
  • Hope he like a tackle, nothing better than seeing your centre forward chop the oppo down.
  • JamesSeed said:

    SDAddick said:

    RedChaser said:

    SDAddick said:

    dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    He looked good at Hearts and scored goals. He's been playing in China then the UAE for the past year and a half. I imagine there would be a huge question surrounding his fitness and sharpness given he hasn't had a pre-season and he's been playing in poor leagues the last couple years.
    Don't tell me Driesen's been at it again with his recommendations.
    It definitely feels like a signing that would be good on FM.

    I don't know I think it's a high risk, possibly high reward situation. If he finds his Hearts form then he looks a decent signing. Doubt we'll match his Chinese or UAE wages, but maybe he's ready to take the pay cut.

    Again, it's hard because we're looking for maybe a second or third choice center forward who can play up front on their own and score goals. I suspect that is going to require taking a punt on someone, whether it's a free agent or a loan or perhaps someone not proven at this level.
    Oh god really? Second or third choice after Magennis and Novak. That's pretty depressing.
    You may not rate him, but I think it will be very tough if not impossible to categorically improve on Magennis at this level. Novak? Yes.
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  • I really like Mag, but I worry about his injury record. Rico Henry Irving Fairchild Hackett may be a great bet for the future and could be a good impact sub, but in his first season can't be expected to get to double figures (sorry Henry). Let's hope KR can get the Belgium bunglers to loosen the purse strings (removes rose coloured classes and is hit by reality of the last 3 years).
    Of course we always have big Lee

    Not sure how old Reeco is but Wayne Rooney scored 15 in his first 67 games at Everton (many as sub) and what was he? 17? 18?
    It's always worth trying what you have before buying. A good manager will know if he's ready, or whether it might be too much of a risk.

  • I can't believe that nobody has stooped as low as......

    Hope he brings home the bacon.
  • cfgs said:

    I can't believe that nobody has stooped as low as......

    Hope he brings home the bacon.

    I can believe the amount of people poking their snout into this.
  • Good luck with negotiating a contract with his mum. She a nightmare apparently and partially the reason why Barnet still have him there.

    Every football agents eyes must light up when dealing with Miss 'I love doing deals' Meire.......
  • dickplumb said:

    Osman Sow in talks, according to Colin.

    Never heard of him!
  • Who Colin?
  • Good luck with negotiating a contract with his mum. She a nightmare apparently and partially the reason why Barnet still have him there.

    Every football agents eyes must light up when dealing with Miss 'I love doing deals' Meire.......
    Meire will make a pigs ear of any negotiations.
  • edited August 2017
    Oh god really? Second or third choice after Magennis and Novak. That's pretty depressing.

    You may not rate him, but I think it will be very tough if not impossible to categorically improve on Magennis at this level. Novak? Yes.

    For £300k I agree with you. Though there are available players like Bogle and Grigg who can pretty much guarantee the goals we need to get promotion.

    Hence why it is massively disappointing that we've only invested circa £175k on transfers this season (estimated £100k on Clarke and £75k on Fosu). KR has done well to acquire/get back as many quality players without transfer fees as he has (Reeves, Marshall, Da Silva, Kashi) but you have to be prepared to spend on some players. We spent far more in the Powell season (Green, Wiggins, Stephens etc) and even more under Slade.

    Really hope the club show some ambition and give him just 10% of money generated from player sales in 2017 to allow us to sign more than a young unwanted loanee or unproven div 2 striker.

    We would be right up there if we do and fans will only be proved right if KM and RD don't support a promising campaign this year. If it doesn't work they can sell Konsa at the end of the season (or in Jan) and recoup 4 times the £750k - £1m striker investment.
  • edited August 2017
    If we sign him and he praises Meire he will just be loin.
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