Price, structure of deal, payments etc = agreed. RD would not have let the Aussies progress this long without that being tied down.
Aussie funds in place = yes. Too much of a high quality and respected front man for it not to be the case imo.
EFL approval of change - agreed / almost agreed
Legacy / associated issues attached to the convuluted former company structure from the previous era OR uncertainty over asset ownership with RD of what is included in the sale - potentially outstanding. As I say, a complete guess. Something is clearly o/s though. RD wants shot and does not want to put another penny into propping up Charlton Athletic. He very much expected this all to be concluded by now (which is why I doubt this is price haggling). He doesn’t handle frustration well and probably threatened that if no not resolved by a certain point he would start selling players as he is not paying another wage bill.
Given Konsa was attracting good interest from at least 3 prem clubs I’ve been made aware, a sale to Brentford appears rushed to me and I would speculate at a deal structure that suits RDs current position.
Whether this latest leakage is game playing who knows. What is clear though is both parties are currently in the country today and the leaks emerging are not saying ‘done deal’. Very much the opposite.
Just my spec so please feel free to pick the bones of it and convince me what might be wrong
Price, structure of deal, payments etc = agreed. RD would not have let the Aussies progress this long without that being tied down.
Aussie funds in place = yes. Too much of a high quality and respected front man for it not to be the case imo.
EFL approval of change - agreed / almost agreed
Legacy / associated issues attached to the convuluted former company structure from the previous era OR uncertainty over asset ownership with RD of what is included in the sale - potentially outstanding. As I say, a complete guess. Something is clearly o/s though.
RD wants shot and does not want to put another penny into propping up Charlton Athletic. He very much expected this all to be concluded by now (which is why I doubt this is price haggling). He doesn’t handle frustration well and probably threatened that if no not resolved by a certain point he would start selling players as he is not paying another wage bill.
Given Konsa was attracting good interest from at least 3 prem clubs I’ve been made aware, a sale to Brentford appears rushed to me and I would speculate at a deal structure that suits RDs current position.
Whether this latest leakage is game playing who knows. What is clear though is both parties are currently in the country today and the leaks emerging are not saying ‘done deal’. Very much the opposite.
Just my spec so please feel free to pick the bones of it and convince me what might be wrong
Maybe Duchatelet panicked when the EFL didn't immediately sign off the Aussies and so started planning for his ownership to continue with desperate player sales and sacking yet more staff.
Meanwhile the Aussies are trying to say "we're ready to do the deal, the EFL issues have been sorted" but Roland won't listen.
I think @AFKABartram may be right here with his summary. Perhaps Brentford offered more upfront for Konsa than any other club,suited RD, so he sold him.
I think its time for the Aussies to show some transparency now.
This whole saga has gone on far too long and we the long suffering fans are being mugged off in my opinion. This morning the deal was close, this evening its a million miles away. We won't get anything out of RD so perhaps they can enlighten us. They are supposed to be the good guys after all.
I'm rapidly losing faith with the Aussies and suspect they're as much to blame for the delays as RD.
After all they still haven't made a public statement about the takeover and their intentions (i.e. something on the record and "official" which is bizarre for a takeover of this type), and if it was RD who was causing the takeover to be delayed, surely they would be in public, blaming RD and highlighting that it wasn't their fault.
Whatever we might think about the purchase price, presumably they've agreed it with RD, and have had 6 months (or whatever) to get the financing sorted and paperwork done. If the holdup is due to them, and as a result he's having to fund losses beyond when he expected to have sold the club, it's not surprising that he's sold a player to cover them...
Price, structure of deal, payments etc = agreed. RD would not have let the Aussies progress this long without that being tied down.
Aussie funds in place = yes. Too much of a high quality and respected front man for it not to be the case imo.
EFL approval of change - agreed / almost agreed
Legacy / associated issues attached to the convuluted former company structure from the previous era OR uncertainty over asset ownership with RD of what is included in the sale - potentially outstanding. As I say, a complete guess. Something is clearly o/s though.
RD wants shot and does not want to put another penny into propping up Charlton Athletic. He very much expected this all to be concluded by now (which is why I doubt this is price haggling). He doesn’t handle frustration well and probably threatened that if no not resolved by a certain point he would start selling players as he is not paying another wage bill.
Given Konsa was attracting good interest from at least 3 prem clubs I’ve been made aware, a sale to Brentford appears rushed to me and I would speculate at a deal structure that suits RDs current position.
Whether this latest leakage is game playing who knows. What is clear though is both parties are currently in the country today and the leaks emerging are not saying ‘done deal’. Very much the opposite.
Just my spec so please feel free to pick the bones of it and convince me what might be wrong
I have stopped buying season tickets but have been dragging myself along to most games - if that scumbag stays as owner- that will be it for me. I take heart that supporters can lift clubs from the bottom of the barrel as it looks like where we are heading if the Aussies don't buy us. Non league football looks a couple of years away if we go on like this and the club will be worth nothing!
Ironically you probably ended up paying more than if you'd bought a season ticket. That's not a criticism at all btw.
Yes, it is true. In tickets anyway. I used to spend a lot on Charlton associated tat though, which has almost completely dried up! But it is why I have to be stronger next season if he stays.
Whilst we all would like the Aussies to step up to the plate and get things done why should they if the old scrote is selling off the family silver at the eleventh hour. With further sales and staff cuts being threatened, if it were me two can play at the brinkmanship game and I'd say;
'Look Roland if we pull out now fair enough we are going to blow £1m in getting to this point whereas you are doing that every month and will continue to do so. No one is going to pay another £10m for a 3rd possibly 4th tier club this time next year. We want the sale price adjusted for the Konsa transfer money if not fully certainly some of it or we are out, its your call'.
He has a narcissistic personality disorder but I don't believe he wants to carry on pouring money down the drain he's bluffing and has met his match in the Aussies. Squeeze him as much as you can but for all our sakes don't fall of that tightrope cobber.
I think its time for the Aussies to show some transparency now.
This whole saga has gone on far too long and we the long suffering fans are being mugged off in my opinion. This morning the deal was close, this evening its a million miles away. We won't get anything out of RD so perhaps they can enlighten us. They are supposed to be the good guys after all.
I'm rapidly losing faith with the Aussies and suspect they're as much to blame for the delays as RD.
After all they still haven't made a public statement about the takeover and their intentions (i.e. something on the record and "official" which is bizarre for a takeover of this type), and if it was RD who was causing the takeover to be delayed, surely they would be in public, blaming RD and highlighting that it wasn't their fault.
Whatever we might think about the purchase price, presumably they've agreed it with RD, and have had 6 months (or whatever) to get the financing sorted and paperwork done. If the holdup is due to them, and as a result he's having to fund losses beyond when he expected to have sold the club, it's not surprising that he's sold a player to cover them...
That’s me in a nutshell
If the aussies found things out during the DD about previous misdemeanors then deal with them change your asking price and be prepared to walk away if you don’t get what you want
Or pay the money being asked fuck off the old cnut and get going and deal with the issues
Don’t play stupid posture games that play back into the horrible bastds roll of doing what he wants whilst you dick around
Stop putting info out there via RC AB and JS and put something out there in public stating your intentions and the hold up is being caused by x y or z
Enough is enough
Put up and get on with it
Keep it in your pocket and fuck off simples really
Just because they have money, they are right not to throw it at Roland. If he doesn't sell to them, good luck to him selling to another buyer at anywhere near the ridiculous price he wants.
I think its time for the Aussies to show some transparency now.
This whole saga has gone on far too long and we the long suffering fans are being mugged off in my opinion. This morning the deal was close, this evening its a million miles away. We won't get anything out of RD so perhaps they can enlighten us. They are supposed to be the good guys after all.
I'm rapidly losing faith with the Aussies and suspect they're as much to blame for the delays as RD.
After all they still haven't made a public statement about the takeover and their intentions (i.e. something on the record and "official" which is bizarre for a takeover of this type), and if it was RD who was causing the takeover to be delayed, surely they would be in public, blaming RD and highlighting that it wasn't their fault.
Whatever we might think about the purchase price, presumably they've agreed it with RD, and have had 6 months (or whatever) to get the financing sorted and paperwork done. If the holdup is due to them, and as a result he's having to fund losses beyond when he expected to have sold the club, it's not surprising that he's sold a player to cover them...
I got the impression (beer meeting) there was an agreement, or at least an understanding, that there would be no pronouncements until the sale was completed. I inferred, without any evidence, that that might have been a request from RD. They said that they'd been inundated with messages and emails (and requests for interviews) that they couldn't answer until the sale was complete. I saw the fact they were now talking to Airman and Cawley as a sign that it was almost all over.
Have messaged my contact, but now they're dealing with Cawley and Airman I don't expect a reply, not one mentioning football anyway.
Whilst we all would like the Aussies to step up to the plate and get things done why should they if the old scrote is selling off the family silver at the eleventh hour. With further sales and staff cuts being threatened, if it were me two can play at the brinkmanship game and I'd say;
'Look Roland if we pull out now fair enough we are going to blow £1m in getting to this point whereas you are doing that every month and will continue to do so. No one is going to pay another £10m for a 3rd possibly 4th tier club this time next year. We want the sale price adjusted for the Konsa transfer money if not fully certainly some of it or we are out, its your call'.
He has a narcissistic personality disorder but I don't believe he wants to carry on pouring money down the drain he's bluffing and has met his match in the Aussies. Squeeze him as much as you can but for all our sakes don't fall of that tightrope cobber.
He could t sell fuck all if they had bought the fucking club
Yes, it is true. In tickets anyway. I used to spend a lot on Charlton associated tat though, which has almost completely dried up! But it is why I have to be stronger next season if he stays.
It's my son's interest that might wane if we don't go. He loved the three Bowyer games he went to.
That is just what Roland wants. I think this is him showing that he's in still in control. My take is he's pissed off that the Aussies have been courting the fans via the press, he's wanted to sell for ages but hasn't. He's now panicking because of the EFL delay.
I still think the Aussies will be good for us, that they have the money and will do a deal soon.
But as ever not sure why people convinced themselves it would be today.
Hope to god the aussies get the takeover done asap.....it will happen.....Roland is as good as gone and the manager has been working on players in and out for afew weeks now.
That is what i hope is happening
and.......... if incorrect then the outcome is Roland is still here and that road will be a deadend street for Charlton.
Please just complete the deal and lets get back to football again.
I think @AFKABartram may be right here with his summary. Perhaps Brentford offered more upfront for Konsa than any other club,suited RD, so he sold him.
I can't believe that any premier league team that wanted Konsa would allow themselves to be outbid by Brentford.
Whilst we all would like the Aussies to step up to the plate and get things done why should they if the old scrote is selling off the family silver at the eleventh hour. With further sales and staff cuts being threatened, if it were me two can play at the brinkmanship game and I'd say;
'Look Roland if we pull out now fair enough we are going to blow £1m in getting to this point whereas you are doing that every month and will continue to do so. No one is going to pay another £10m for a 3rd possibly 4th tier club this time next year. We want the sale price adjusted for the Konsa transfer money if not fully certainly some of it or we are out, its your call'.
He has a narcissistic personality disorder but I don't believe he wants to carry on pouring money down the drain he's bluffing and has met his match in the Aussies. Squeeze him as much as you can but for all our sakes don't fall of that tightrope cobber.
He could t sell fuck all if they had bought the fucking club
But this is the here and now. Why should they if the asset goalposts have moved and effectively pay an inflated price, would you then?
That is just what Roland wants. I think this is him showing that he's in still in control. My take is he's pissed off that the Aussies have been courting the fans via the press, he's wanted to sell for ages but hasn't. He's now panicking because of the EFL delay.
I still think the Aussies will be good for us, that they have the money and will do a deal soon.
But as ever not sure why people convinced themselves it would be today.
When it's on the official site
Think thats a bit long winded...could you shorten it by any chance?
I think its time for the Aussies to show some transparency now.
This whole saga has gone on far too long and we the long suffering fans are being mugged off in my opinion. This morning the deal was close, this evening its a million miles away. We won't get anything out of RD so perhaps they can enlighten us. They are supposed to be the good guys after all.
I'm rapidly losing faith with the Aussies and suspect they're as much to blame for the delays as RD.
After all they still haven't made a public statement about the takeover and their intentions (i.e. something on the record and "official" which is bizarre for a takeover of this type), and if it was RD who was causing the takeover to be delayed, surely they would be in public, blaming RD and highlighting that it wasn't their fault.
Whatever we might think about the purchase price, presumably they've agreed it with RD, and have had 6 months (or whatever) to get the financing sorted and paperwork done. If the holdup is due to them, and as a result he's having to fund losses beyond when he expected to have sold the club, it's not surprising that he's sold a player to cover them...
I got the impression (beer meeting) there was an agreement, or at least an understanding, that there would be no pronouncements until the sale was completed. I inferred, without any evidence, that that might have been a request from RD. They said that they'd been inundated with messages and emails (and requests for interviews) that they couldn't answer until the sale was complete. I saw the fact they were now talking to Airman and Cawley as a sign that it was almost all over.
Have messaged my contact, but now they're dealing with Cawley and Airman I don't expect a reply, not one mentioning football anyway.
I would of assumed that if things were going wrong, the Aussies would of tipped Crawley off about it
That is just what Roland wants. I think this is him showing that he's in still in control. My take is he's pissed off that the Aussies have been courting the fans via the press, he's wanted to sell for ages but hasn't. He's now panicking because of the EFL delay.
I still think the Aussies will be good for us, that they have the money and will do a deal soon.
But as ever not sure why people convinced themselves it would be today.
When it's on the official site
Think thats a bit long winded...could you shorten it by any chance?
That is just what Roland wants. I think this is him showing that he's in still in control. My take is he's pissed off that the Aussies have been courting the fans via the press, he's wanted to sell for ages but hasn't. He's now panicking because of the EFL delay.
I still think the Aussies will be good for us, that they have the money and will do a deal soon.
But as ever not sure why people convinced themselves it would be today.
When it's on the official site
I personally don't think RD gives a shit who is blamed, as long as his interests are damaged as little as possible
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Maybe Duchatelet panicked when the EFL didn't immediately sign off the Aussies and so started planning for his ownership to continue with desperate player sales and sacking yet more staff.
Meanwhile the Aussies are trying to say "we're ready to do the deal, the EFL issues have been sorted" but Roland won't listen.
WIOTOS
After all they still haven't made a public statement about the takeover and their intentions (i.e. something on the record and "official" which is bizarre for a takeover of this type), and if it was RD who was causing the takeover to be delayed, surely they would be in public, blaming RD and highlighting that it wasn't their fault.
Whatever we might think about the purchase price, presumably they've agreed it with RD, and have had 6 months (or whatever) to get the financing sorted and paperwork done. If the holdup is due to them, and as a result he's having to fund losses beyond when he expected to have sold the club, it's not surprising that he's sold a player to cover them...
'Look Roland if we pull out now fair enough we are going to blow £1m in getting to this point whereas you are doing that every month and will continue to do so. No one is going to pay another £10m for a 3rd possibly 4th tier club this time next year. We want the sale price adjusted for the Konsa transfer money if not fully certainly some of it or we are out, its your call'.
He has a narcissistic personality disorder but I don't believe he wants to carry on pouring money down the drain he's bluffing and has met his match in the Aussies. Squeeze him as much as you can but for all our sakes don't fall of that tightrope cobber.
If the aussies found things out during the DD about previous misdemeanors then deal with them change your asking price and be prepared to walk away if you don’t get what you want
Or pay the money being asked fuck off the old cnut and get going and deal with the issues
Don’t play stupid posture games that play back into the horrible bastds roll of doing what he wants whilst you dick around
Stop putting info out there via RC AB and JS and put something out there in public stating your intentions and the hold up is being caused by x y or z
Enough is enough
Put up and get on with it
Keep it in your pocket and fuck off simples really
They said that they'd been inundated with messages and emails (and requests for interviews) that they couldn't answer until the sale was complete. I saw the fact they were now talking to Airman and Cawley as a sign that it was almost all over.
Have messaged my contact, but now they're dealing with Cawley and Airman I don't expect a reply, not one mentioning football anyway.
That is just what Roland wants. I think this is him showing that he's in still in control. My take is he's pissed off that the Aussies have been courting the fans via the press, he's wanted to sell for ages but hasn't. He's now panicking because of the EFL delay.
I still think the Aussies will be good for us, that they have the money and will do a deal soon.
But as ever not sure why people convinced themselves it would be today.
When it's on the official site
That is what i hope is happening
and.......... if incorrect then the outcome is Roland is still here and that road will be a deadend street for Charlton.
Please just complete the deal and lets get back to football again.