I think Muir et al need to come out with a statement. They need to let us know what the hell is going on rather than drip feed stuff through the likes of Rich Cawley and Jimmy Seed
Are we 100% clear that the reason this hasn’t been wrapped up is with RD?
Because that may well not be the case.
Like maybe not showing they have monies
#Justsaying
Surely, you don’t pass the fit and proper persons test without having funds, it’s a key part of passing it.
That’s what I would like to think but the longer this whole shit show goes on you have to ask what the fuck is holding this up
Other clubs the takeover is complete pending a fit and proper persons test
We are doing the fit and proper yet no deal has been done (it would seem ) so surely the delay is on the buyers side not the sellers
There’s no evidence in the public domain to suggest this delay is caused by RD
I agree with you @nth london addick . As much as I hate the guy I’m convinced that the delay is not down to RD.
The Aussies said as much on 18th May, but they were talking about a legal entangelment that had to be dealt with, going back before RD's time. They said negotiations with him were tricky, but that he wanted the sale to happen. But it really won't be about their lack of funds.
Are we 100% clear that the reason this hasn’t been wrapped up is with RD?
Because that may well not be the case.
Like maybe not showing they have monies
#Justsaying
Surely, you don’t pass the fit and proper persons test without having funds, it’s a key part of passing it.
That’s what I would like to think but the longer this whole shit show goes on you have to ask what the fuck is holding this up
Other clubs the takeover is complete pending a fit and proper persons test
We are doing the fit and proper yet no deal has been done (it would seem ) so surely the delay is on the buyers side not the sellers
There’s no evidence in the public domain to suggest this delay is caused by RD
I agree with you @nth london addick . As much as I hate the guy I’m convinced that the delay is not down to RD.
The Aussies said as much on 18th May, but they were talking about a legal entangelment that had to be dealt with, going back before RD's time. They said negotiations with him were tricky, but that he wanted the sale to happen. But it really won't be about their lack of funds.
Can we presume that this legal entanglement is still unresolved then @JamesSeed and this is what is causing the hold up?
If 3 or 4 more players are sold in the next week then it's a fire sale. As it is, 1 player sold, Duche is just covering costs for next couple of months. It's up to the Aussies now. They either want the club or not.
I posted a few days ago that possibly the Aussies had the whip hand and that Rolly had a very weak hand given the lack of staff etc at the club and that maybe they wanted to reduce the price at the last moment.
RD patience wearing thin actually tells me that the Aussies are pissing around and not the other way round.
Agree with this.
Roland is like Ashley, Newcastle's owner... he would rather be hated but keep the club than sell for less than he thinks it is worth. And he would walk away.
If 3 or 4 more players are sold in the next week then it's a fire sale. As it is, 1 player sold, Duche is just covering costs for next couple of months. It's up to the Aussies now. They either want the club or not.
I think its time for the Aussies to show some transparency now.
This whole saga has gone on far too long and we the long suffering fans are being mugged off in my opinion. This morning the deal was close, this evening its a million miles away. We won't get anything out of RD so perhaps they can enlighten us. They are supposed to be the good guys after all.
If 3 or 4 more players are sold in the next week then it's a fire sale. As it is, 1 player sold, Duche is just covering costs for next couple of months. It's up to the Aussies now. They either want the club or not.
If 3 or 4 more players are sold in the next week then it's a fire sale. As it is, 1 player sold, Duche is just covering costs for next couple of months. It's up to the Aussies now. They either want the club or not.
Agree with this, time for them to come out of the shadows and do it.
I’m going to wait and see what happens in the next few days before I panic, seems like Roland is doing little more than trying to hurry the Aussies along, still don’t buy the whole evil genius getting his last laugh over us. Feel like the ball is still in the Aussies court.
Are we 100% clear that the reason this hasn’t been wrapped up is with RD?
Because that may well not be the case.
Like maybe not showing they have monies
#Justsaying
Surely, you don’t pass the fit and proper persons test without having funds, it’s a key part of passing it.
That’s what I would like to think but the longer this whole shit show goes on you have to ask what the fuck is holding this up
Other clubs the takeover is complete pending a fit and proper persons test
We are doing the fit and proper yet no deal has been done (it would seem ) so surely the delay is on the buyers side not the sellers
There’s no evidence in the public domain to suggest this delay is caused by RD
I agree with you @nth london addick . As much as I hate the guy I’m convinced that the delay is not down to RD.
This is what concerns me.
Many appear to have a direct line in with the Aussies ie Cawley from what's been said on here but the problem with that is it means you only get their side/ version of the story. Don't know them from Adam so who is to say they are being 100% genuine and transparent with what they're leaking to progress a deal in their favour.
I am sure facts and truths are manipulated and leaked to gain advantage in such a deal.
The irony is to have balance and gain a semblance of what is near the truth you also need a direct line in to the other party and call both sides out on discrepancies.
If Cawley or other journos also had a line into the selling div then we may get near to what is going on.
Something doesn't feel right about this aussie consortium and available funds instinctively as much as my optimism wants me to overlook it.
The only known fact at this point still is that we are almost in july, selling and seeing the back of the spine of a weak squad with no manager or executive in place and radio silence from the club who are more preoccupied with broadcasting banal piss like what fucking football club Jackson supports.
The fans and those of us glued to this takeover all across various social media are being used as pawns in whatever is going on I reckon.
I’m beginning to think these Aussies are just another cowboy outfit. This pre season is going to be isa total shambles . I’m just going to watch my local non league side next season if this doesn’t go through ( as I’ve been saying all along ).
Price, structure of deal, payments etc = agreed. RD would not have let the Aussies progress this long without that being tied down.
Aussie funds in place = yes. Too much of a high quality and respected front man for it not to be the case imo.
EFL approval of change - agreed / almost agreed
Legacy / associated issues attached to the convuluted former company structure from the previous era OR uncertainty over asset ownership with RD of what is included in the sale - potentially outstanding. As I say, a complete guess. Something is clearly o/s though.
RD wants shot and does not want to put another penny into propping up Charlton Athletic. He very much expected this all to be concluded by now (which is why I doubt this is price haggling). He doesn’t handle frustration well and probably threatened that if no not resolved by a certain point he would start selling players as he is not paying another wage bill.
Given Konsa was attracting good interest from at least 3 prem clubs I’ve been made aware, a sale to Brentford appears rushed to me and I would speculate at a deal structure that suits RDs current position.
Whether this latest leakage is game playing who knows. What is clear though is both parties are currently in the country today and the leaks emerging are not saying ‘done deal’. Very much the opposite.
Just my spec so please feel free to pick the bones of it and convince me what might be wrong
I have stopped buying season tickets but have been dragging myself along to most games - if that scumbag stays as owner- that will be it for me. I take heart that supporters can lift clubs from the bottom of the barrel as it looks like where we are heading if the Aussies don't buy us. Non league football looks a couple of years away if we go on like this and the club will be worth nothing!
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Perhaps this is Rollys response.
Roland is like Ashley, Newcastle's owner... he would rather be hated but keep the club than sell for less than he thinks it is worth. And he would walk away.
This whole saga has gone on far too long and we the long suffering fans are being mugged off in my opinion. This morning the deal was close, this evening its a million miles away. We won't get anything out of RD so perhaps they can enlighten us. They are supposed to be the good guys after all.
Source: wishful thinking.
Many appear to have a direct line in with the Aussies ie Cawley from what's been said on here but the problem with that is it means you only get their side/ version of the story. Don't know them from Adam so who is to say they are being 100% genuine and transparent with what they're leaking to progress a deal in their favour.
I am sure facts and truths are manipulated and leaked to gain advantage in such a deal.
The irony is to have balance and gain a semblance of what is near the truth you also need a direct line in to the other party and call both sides out on discrepancies.
If Cawley or other journos also had a line into the selling div then we may get near to what is going on.
Something doesn't feel right about this aussie consortium and available funds instinctively as much as my optimism wants me to overlook it.
The only known fact at this point still is that we are almost in july, selling and seeing the back of the spine of a weak squad with no manager or executive in place and radio silence from the club who are more preoccupied with broadcasting banal piss like what fucking football club Jackson supports.
The fans and those of us glued to this takeover all across various social media are being used as pawns in whatever is going on I reckon.
Wankers the lot of them.
isa total shambles . I’m just going to watch my local non league side next season if this doesn’t go through ( as I’ve been saying all along ).Price, structure of deal, payments etc = agreed. RD would not have let the Aussies progress this long without that being tied down.
Aussie funds in place = yes. Too much of a high quality and respected front man for it not to be the case imo.
EFL approval of change - agreed / almost agreed
Legacy / associated issues attached to the convuluted former company structure from the previous era OR uncertainty over asset ownership with RD of what is included in the sale - potentially outstanding. As I say, a complete guess. Something is clearly o/s though.
RD wants shot and does not want to put another penny into propping up Charlton Athletic. He very much expected this all to be concluded by now (which is why I doubt this is price haggling). He doesn’t handle frustration well and probably threatened that if no not resolved by a certain point he would start selling players as he is not paying another wage bill.
Given Konsa was attracting good interest from at least 3 prem clubs I’ve been made aware, a sale to Brentford appears rushed to me and I would speculate at a deal structure that suits RDs current position.
Whether this latest leakage is game playing who knows. What is clear though is both parties are currently in the country today and the leaks emerging are not saying ‘done deal’. Very much the opposite.
Just my spec so please feel free to pick the bones of it and convince me what might be wrong