As Duchatelet's raison d'etre was to run Charlton as a factory farm for young players before selling them to the highest bidder at some point in this food chain, then I can believe the Joe Gomez transfer is an issue.
The best Academy player we have produced this century went to Liverpool for £3.5 million with multiple add -ons ; so not only would Duchatelet's legal team have made sure that the usual appearances for Liverpool, England etc were included, BUT the protential next transfer could be the problem.
Michy Batshuayi transferred to Marseille for 4.5 million from standard Liege. The next move was to Chelsea for £33 million and this is where Roland made 30% according to the European media.
The devil's in the detail and Duchatelet wants the money for himself after selling the club. I could well imagine the old Walloon is playing the long game on every possible revenue stream that could flow to him or his next of kin in the future.
The fans, players, staff and the new owners are the victims of Duchatelet's intractable personality.
Duchatelet turned up at a club that was already producing good young players, trumpeted about how that was going to be ‘his thing’ and turn us into some sort of centre of excellence that meant the club would be self-funded.
He proceeded to get some interesting pictures made up of facilities he never built, sell off the good youth players that were already here for bugger all, and then try to get money for them even after he sells up.
Roland you absolute gimp, how do you think that plan went?
I'm a bit fuzzy on the DD process so correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't sell on fees/appearance fees for the likes of Gomez/Lookman have already been factored into the overall club valuation? Gomez had already played for England before any DD happened as well didn't he?
As Duchatelet's raison d'etre was to run Charlton as a factory farm for young players before selling them to the highest bidder at some point in this food chain, then I can believe the Joe Gomez transfer is an issue.
The best Academy player we have produced this century went to Liverpool for £3.5 million with multiple add -ons ; so not only would Duchatelet's legal team have made sure that the usual appearances for Liverpool, England etc were included, BUT the protential next transfer could be the problem.
Michy Batshuayi transferred to Marseille for 4.5 million from standard Liege. The next move was to Chelsea for £33 million and this is where Roland made 30% according to the European media.
The devil's in the detail and Duchatelet wants the money for himself after selling the club. I could well imagine the old Walloon is playing the long game on every possible revenue stream that could flow to him or his next of kin in the future.
The fans, players, staff and the new owners are the victims of Duchatelet's intractable personality.
"intractable personality" should read intractable 'sociopathic' personality.
I'm a bit fuzzy on the DD process so correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't sell on fees/appearance fees for the likes of Gomez/Lookman have already been factored into the overall club valuation? Gomez had already played for England before any DD happened as well didn't he?
Yes. And any add-on clauses are included at the time of contract so I don't see why this can be a delaying issue now.
I think the sale may have happened but we are waiting for EFL to ratify.
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
Deal is done apparently. Only RD holding it up. Joe Gomez starting again for England has thrown another spanner in the works. This is from somebody who speaks to the right people at the club.
I was present at the conversation at which this inside information was brought up but it was a more detailed.
Roland is nit picking absolutely everything.
He is the only one holding up the deal being official and completed.
He wants the money of future player appearance fees etc.
Whether or not he is directly entitled to those things, I do not know.
I'm a bit fuzzy on the DD process so correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't sell on fees/appearance fees for the likes of Gomez/Lookman have already been factored into the overall club valuation? Gomez had already played for England before any DD happened as well didn't he?
You'd have thought so, yes, but these things are also more fluid over a relatively short period of time than you'd think. Back in August/September, none of Gomez, Lookman, JBG or Pope were regular starters for their EPL clubs (some due to injury). At that stage not even the appearance based add-ons were real and visible, let alone England appearances.
In the case of Gomez, it's likely that the number of appearances for Liverpool are a much bigger part of the deal than England caps, as these are more aligned with the interests of the party that negotiated the deal. Indeed, it may be more significant to RD's cash flow than the England question - Joe is now injured again and out for several weeks, marooned on 39 appearances (incl. subs). Maybe this unfortunate injury is now delaying a substantial payment triggered by his 40th appearance?
Whether thus is significant to RD or the deal is pure guesswork, as most of the stuff on this thread, and will depend on whether a man worth a billion Euros considers the odd £250k around the edges to be a trifling sum or something worth digging in for. And I'm sure we all have a personal view on that.
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
Deal is done apparently. Only RD holding it up. Joe Gomez starting again for England has thrown another spanner in the works. This is from somebody who speaks to the right people at the club.
I was present at the conversation at which this inside information was brought up but it was a more detailed.
Roland is nit picking absolutely everything.
He is the only one holding up the deal being official and completed.
He wants the money of future player appearance fees etc.
Whether or not he is directly entitled to those things, I do not know.
If the ducktape fool is arguing over potential selling clauses, the buyers should be seeking compo for Pope not having one. Somebody needs to tell this pathetic little excuse for a man to F off.
I'm pretty sure @blackpool72 has a daily reminder on his phone to do this
...Thanks for the detailed reply Ash, I understand the fluidity of add ons, my point (that I probably didn't explain well enough) was that, knowing how fluid these add ons are, that the DD process would have accounted for this in arriving at a valuation - I mean, Konsa could have a career ending injury tomorrow and suddenly that's a (guessing) 5 Million valued asset off the books - nothing about buying a football club is set in stone so surely there has to be an element of certain assumptions being made in the DD process when arriving at a valuation?
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
You remind me of a Clairvoyant and spiritualist who beguiles his needy audience and locates the person in the crowd who has a grandmother called Mary and tells them granny is happy on the other side and to go for a check up at the doctor's to cure a little problem that is troubling one.
Of course Douchebag want out ASP but only on his terms which means ASP is taking so long.
Carry on Doucher, it gives you a kick and is quite amusing at times.
...Thanks for the detailed reply Ash, I understand the fluidity of add ons, my point (that I probably didn't explain well enough) was that, knowing how fluid these add ons are, that the DD process would have accounted for this in arriving at a valuation - I mean, Konsa could have a career ending injury tomorrow and suddenly that's a (guessing) 5 Million valued asset off the books - nothing about buying a football club is set in stone so surely there has to be an element of certain assumptions being made in the DD process when arriving at a valuation?
I totally agree. But the longer this process drags out, the more tweaks to these assumptions could be made due to new events or information. All very tedious!
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
Duchatelet is doing a shit job of getting out ASAP, about the same level of competency as his football strategy.
As Duchatelet's raison d'etre was to run Charlton as a factory farm for young players before selling them to the highest bidder at some point in this food chain, then I can believe the Joe Gomez transfer is an issue.
The best Academy player we have produced this century went to Liverpool for £3.5 million with multiple add -ons ; so not only would Duchatelet's legal team have made sure that the usual appearances for Liverpool, England etc were included, BUT the protential next transfer could be the problem.
Michy Batshuayi transferred to Marseille for 4.5 million from standard Liege. The next move was to Chelsea for £33 million and this is where Roland made 30% according to the European media.
The devil's in the detail and Duchatelet wants the money for himself after selling the club. I could well imagine the old Walloon is playing the long game on every possible revenue stream that could flow to him or his next of kin in the future.
Can't someone knock on Roland's grandad's door and give him a leaflet
Deal is done apparently. Only RD holding it up. Joe Gomez starting again for England has thrown another spanner in the works. This is from somebody who speaks to the right people at the club.
I was present at the conversation at which this inside information was brought up but it was a more detailed.
Roland is nit picking absolutely everything.
He is the only one holding up the deal being official and completed.
He wants the money of future player appearance fees etc.
Whether or not he is directly entitled to those things, I do not know.
Basically the man is an absolute twat
Not exactly news.
this will all depend on what he puts in the deal, it will be interesting to find out what he put in place in the purchase of the club and whether he made it clear that any sales of the players that he took on as part of the clubs assets he would be personally entitled to a % of the money and what % the club were entitled to
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
You remind me of a Clairvoyant and spiritualist who beguiles his needy audience and locates the person in the crowd who has a grandmother called Mary and tells them granny is happy on the other side and to go for a check up at the doctor's to cure a little problem that is troubling one.
Of course Douchebag want out ASP but only on his terms which means ASP is taking so long.
Carry on Doucher, it gives you a kick and is quite amusing at times.
Just passing on what I have been told - I'm not sure how that gives me a kick but anyway
I'm advised the niggles have nothing to do with the splitting of the valley and training ground as that isn't happening so lets not worry about that and i'm also advised that it isn't rd holding it up as he wants out asap
You remind me of a Clairvoyant and spiritualist who beguiles his needy audience and locates the person in the crowd who has a grandmother called Mary and tells them granny is happy on the other side and to go for a check up at the doctor's to cure a little problem that is troubling one.
Of course Douchebag want out ASP but only on his terms which means ASP is taking so long.
Carry on Doucher, it gives you a kick and is quite amusing at times.
Just passing on what I have been told - I'm not sure how that gives me a kick but anyway
Problem is, who's been telling you?
Is it Duchatalet or your next door neighbour's milkman?
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The best Academy player we have produced this century went to Liverpool for £3.5 million with multiple add -ons ; so not only would Duchatelet's legal team have made sure that the usual appearances for Liverpool, England etc were included, BUT the protential next transfer could be the problem.
Michy Batshuayi transferred to Marseille for 4.5 million from standard Liege. The next move was to Chelsea for £33 million and this is where Roland made 30% according to the European media.
The devil's in the detail and Duchatelet wants the money for himself after selling the club.
I could well imagine the old Walloon is playing the long game on every possible revenue stream that could flow to him or his next of kin in the future.
The fans, players, staff and the new owners are the victims of Duchatelet's intractable personality.
He proceeded to get some interesting pictures made up of facilities he never built, sell off the good youth players that were already here for bugger all, and then try to get money for them even after he sells up.
Roland you absolute gimp, how do you think that plan went?
I think the sale may have happened but we are waiting for EFL to ratify.
Roland is nit picking absolutely everything.
He is the only one holding up the deal being official and completed.
He wants the money of future player appearance fees etc.
Whether or not he is directly entitled to those things, I do not know.
Basically the man is an absolute twat
Not exactly news.
In the case of Gomez, it's likely that the number of appearances for Liverpool are a much bigger part of the deal than England caps, as these are more aligned with the interests of the party that negotiated the deal. Indeed, it may be more significant to RD's cash flow than the England question - Joe is now injured again and out for several weeks, marooned on 39 appearances (incl. subs). Maybe this unfortunate injury is now delaying a substantial payment triggered by his 40th appearance?
Whether thus is significant to RD or the deal is pure guesswork, as most of the stuff on this thread, and will depend on whether a man worth a billion Euros considers the odd £250k around the edges to be a trifling sum or something worth digging in for. And I'm sure we all have a personal view on that.
Just sell the club and FUCK OFF
Of course Douchebag want out ASP but only on his terms which means ASP is taking so long.
Carry on Doucher, it gives you a kick and is quite amusing at times.
this will all depend on what he puts in the deal, it will be interesting to find out what he put in place in the purchase of the club and whether he made it clear that any sales of the players that he took on as part of the clubs assets he would be personally entitled to a % of the money and what % the club were entitled to
The bloke is a cancer to football
Is it Duchatalet or your next door neighbour's milkman?
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