The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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The boost this takeover will give the whole club will hopefully be enough to push us into the playoffs.17
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Hopefully it doesn't have the opposite effect and unsettle anythingcantersaddick said:The boost this takeover will give the whole club will hopefully be enough to push us into the playoffs.
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Hopefully thats been and gone with our December / January form - If we've got money, these players should be thinking about playing for their places next season as any one of them could be replacedCH4RLTON said:
Hopefully it doesn't have the opposite effect and unsettle anythingcantersaddick said:The boost this takeover will give the whole club will hopefully be enough to push us into the playoffs.
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Do you mean trawling?!TEL said:I have a feeling that if it is Aussie Muir, he would have done a thorough job and would be recruiting competent football people. He seems like a genuine enough bloke and can certainly run a business well catering for non business based customers. If its him, I think we will be fine. I have a feeling we will see a lot of talented young Aussie players heading to Sparrows Lane, assuming its the Aussie.....still nothing being said here, I've been trolling the internet on Australian sites and nothing.....other than last years old posts.
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That would be appalling taste leveraging the end of one of mankind's most horrific conflicts for gross self indulgence for a comparatively trivial matter.Henry Irving said:
Good idea though.MuttleyCAFC said:
I agree - Did it quickly and it is too busy.Henry Irving said:
I'd leave off the logo and just have this with slight alterations
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Nah I can be a troll too if the mood takes mepaulsturgess said:
Do you mean trawling?!TEL said:I have a feeling that if it is Aussie Muir, he would have done a thorough job and would be recruiting competent football people. He seems like a genuine enough bloke and can certainly run a business well catering for non business based customers. If its him, I think we will be fine. I have a feeling we will see a lot of talented young Aussie players heading to Sparrows Lane, assuming its the Aussie.....still nothing being said here, I've been trolling the internet on Australian sites and nothing.....other than last years old posts.
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Interesting, and mirrors exactly what all of my unconnected sources are saying.dicktracey said:From Sydney - local contact - 'no information to share' - read into that what you want.
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My Australian postman didn't know anything about it either.Athletico Charlton said:
Interesting, and mirrors exactly what all of my unconnected sources are saying.dicktracey said:From Sydney - local contact - 'no information to share' - read into that what you want.
It looks like the deal is OFF.6 -
I dont know any Australians but if I did they would say the deal is ON.0
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My mate went on holiday to Australia in 2011.3
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Doesn't give a toss about football though.4
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My Aussie mate seems to know something. He wouldn't say anything when I asked, but he winked at me, smiled knowingly, and drank a can of Red Bull...10
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Agree - totally over-the-top usage of such an iconic poster. I understand the motive though. Surely we have some talented artists (and I don't just mean piss artists) who could come up with something a little less sensitive?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
That would be appalling taste leveraging the end of one of mankind's most horrific conflicts for gross self indulgence for a comparatively trivial matter.Henry Irving said:
Good idea though.MuttleyCAFC said:
I agree - Did it quickly and it is too busy.Henry Irving said:
I'd leave off the logo and just have this with slight alterations
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Steve Kavanagh, was an excellent CEO, I take your point though:)Ormiston Addick said:
AFAIK no Aussies have ever been involved in English professional football at a senior exec (MD/CEO) level and there have certainly not been any Aussie owners.supaclive said:
You have NO idea if the group has a lack of experience! Just because Muir is an Aussie, it doesn't mean the rest of them are! However, I genuinely don't know the answer to that point!Ormiston Addick said:
If things are done properly, correct.American_Addick said:
If they did due diligence, which they would, there should be no surprses.Ormiston Addick said:If it IS an Aussie consortium then they are going to find the $$$ involved in English football a real eye-opener.
Both main Aussie codes - AFL and NRL - have strict salary caps in place with AFL set at $12 million and NRL set at $7 million.
From an AFL perspective you have clubs that regularly get 50,000+ crowds yet only around six players - basically the absolute superstars - earn $1 million per year in AFL - nobody earns that in NRL - and the average AFL squad player brings in around $400,000.
They are going to get a nasty shock when they find out that a middling English club in the Championship needs to pay average players around $1 million (UK550,000) per year as an average wage - if you want the better players then you need even more than that.
That's before you even talk about transfer fees which do not exist in Australian sport at all - that could be the biggest eye-opener of all.
The main issue is that in recent years we have seen untold clowns come into English football like the Venkys and Vincent Tan who did not have a clue what they were getting into.
Even if they ARE aware of the levels of cash involved it doesn’t mean they will cough them up, they may, like Roland, look for short cuts.
I am wary about the Aussies coming in, they don’t spend cash on transfers in any Aussie sport and have a culture based on player development - we are going to need more than that.
Moreover, given their lack of experience we are going to need an experienced CEO to steer the ship, we don’t need more bloody incompetent rookies running the joint.
Even if these folks have experience in Aussie sports administration that doesn't mean a thing in English football - they'd be prone to getting picked off by chancers just like RD and Nightmeire were.
New owners are crucial, yes, but we also need competent and experienced club management too, we have not had that since Varney left and it's a massive problem.0 -
What is it?TEL said:Junior red inspecting the pitch at the Valley just prior to completing the purchase
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Tend to agree @MuttleyCAFC . In my view, better to show it as a victory for all Charlton fans and not the various protest groups.MuttleyCAFC said:
I agree - Did it quickly and it is too busy.Henry Irving said:2 -
Perhaps just a symbol to represent the majority of fans, like a vol-au-vent?Davo55 said:
Tend to agree @MuttleyCAFC . In my view, better to show it as a victory for all Charlton fans and not the various protest groups.MuttleyCAFC said:
I agree - Did it quickly and it is too busy.Henry Irving said:2 -
I lived in Australia for a couple of years and my brother still does, coincidence?
Could it be Russel Crowe or Rolf, isn’t he out or coming out soon?
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An alternative. I wanted to acknowledge the range of protest groups that the fans got behind.8
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It will be great, if he has successfully worked in a partnership style elsewhere. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that in UK football it works best when there is one strong leader in the boardroom (with the shareholding to back it ideally). Palace had that in Steve Parish, now suddenly they don't, with the Americans buying an almost equal share, and it's all gone pear. I think you can trace a similar story at Charlton. During our relentless rise, Murray called the shots in the boardroom. Then came the time when Murray had to share the reins with Derek Chappell (possibly because Murray had made mistakes). That was a weird time when the decline started, and relatively little has been written about it, even by @Airman Brown. Another absolutely prime example would be to compare Spurs with Arsenal.NapaAddick said:
If this is Aussie Muir, he typically likes to manage with partners. He is not an autocrat.Ormiston Addick said:
New owners are crucial, yes, but we also need competent and experienced club management too, we have not had that since Varney left and it's a massive problem.
But if he knows how to make partnership work, as it frequently does in normal business, it will be fine. And of course the current nutter was the 95% shareholder.
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I'm confused slightly... Was Andrew Muir involved in the Westfield Shopping Centre brand?
I remember a while back someone mentioning that someone who owned Westfield was looking to buy the club but am not sure if thats Andrew Muir as when I looked on Wikipedia, he wasnt down as one of the founders?0 -
You forgot the black taxi symbol. Looks great mateMuttleyCAFC said:An alternative. I wanted to acknowledge the range of protest groups that the fans got behind.
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Nope , Westfield is the Lowry family , think they came up as they had links to the Aussie FAForeverAddickted said:I'm confused slightly... Was Andrew Muir involved in the Westfield Shopping Centre brand?
I remember a while back someone mentioning that someone who owned Westfield was looking to buy the club but am not sure if thats Andrew Muir as when I looked on Wikipedia, he wasnt down as one of the founders?1 -
From his website:
From his desire to act on Australia’s growing obesity program, Andrew Muir established The Good Foundation, a not-for-profit organisation that develops and runs programs and projects that promote good health and nutrition and with the assistance of The Good Guys, brought Jamie’s Ministry of Food to Australia.
Vol-au-vents are off the menu!6 -
Yeah and look what happens when you give them the vote. Our very own curb_it saying on a public forum that she is going out drinking with her mates whilst banning her partner from leaving the house.SuedeAdidas said:Come on guys.
We’re celebrating 100 years of women being able to vote and still they are being degraded on here.
I’m appalled that some are still titilated at the sight of a woman feeding the pony.
It’s 2018 guys!!
I bet Tavern had the last laugh though. Stomping round the house sulking whilst mumbling under his breath "it's ass not arse"
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I think something that's inclusive to all fans would be betterMuttleyCAFC said:An alternative. I wanted to acknowledge the range of protest groups that the fans got behind.
"Here before you came, still here now you've gone"3 -
It’s quite bonkers to suggest things went wrong at Charlton when RM ceased to dominate decision-making and thereby blame those who belatedly sought to rein him in. Leaving aside the merits of individuals the timeline is all wrong, because Murray was removed as plc chairman in January 2008 - “possible mistakes” doesn’t begin to cover what had happened in the previous 18 months. Neither did “the decline” start in January 2008 on any plausible reading of events.PragueAddick said:
It will be great, if he has successfully worked in a partnership style elsewhere. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that in UK football it works best when there is one strong leader in the boardroom (with the shareholding to back it ideally). Palace had that in Steve Parish, now suddenly they don't, with the Americans buying an almost equal share, and it's all gone pear. I think you can trace a similar story at Charlton. During our relentless rise, Murray called the shots in the boardroom. Then came the time when Murray had to share the reins with Derek Chappell (possibly because Murray had made mistakes). That was a weird time when the decline started, and relatively little has been written about it, even by @Airman Brown. Another absolutely prime example would be to compare Spurs with Arsenal.NapaAddick said:
If this is Aussie Muir, he typically likes to manage with partners. He is not an autocrat.Ormiston Addick said:
New owners are crucial, yes, but we also need competent and experienced club management too, we have not had that since Varney left and it's a massive problem.
But if he knows how to make partnership work, as it frequently does in normal business, it will be fine. And of course the current nutter was the 95% shareholder.10 -
So, when it comes to it, what are we throwing on the pitch to celebrate Roland's exit?5
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Boomerangs.......oh......wait a minute....GNelson said:So, when it comes to it, what are we throwing on the pitch to celebrate Roland's exit?
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Ourselves? No ifs, no buts.GNelson said:So, when it comes to it, what are we throwing on the pitch to celebrate Roland's exit?
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