Clearly we need to double check Belgian and local law regarding marches and assembly in St Truiden. I find it hard to believe that every event only happens due to the grace and favour of the Mayor and local police chief. It is a small town though, and I felt last time I was there that Roland was the Lord of the Manor as it were and everybody with authority was in his thrall.
"It is a few hot heads who previously worked directly or indirectly for the club and who were shown the door due to their rebellious and rowdy attitude. They also don't like the fact that I give Katrien Meire my support. The decision and consequences for the demonstration lie at the feet of the mayor and police chief."
"It is a few hot heads who previously worked directly or indirectly for the club and who were shown the door due to their rebellious and rowdy attitude. They also don't like the fact that I give Katrien Meire my support. The decision and consequences for the demonstration lie at the feet of the mayor and police chief."
Your translation/interpretation is excellent.
Thank you very much, @cherryorchard. I do have a degree in Dutch albeit from many years ago. I suppose it's the one thing I should be grateful to RD for - he has given me the chance to brush up on it a bit!
Clearly we need to double check Belgian and local law regarding marches and assembly in St Truiden. I find it hard to believe that every event only happens due to the grace and favour of the Mayor and local police chief. It is a small town though, and I felt last time I was there that Roland was the Lord of the Manor as it were and everybody with authority was in his thrall.
No, it's the same in England. Police have to give permission. In 2005 I had to get permission to parade a crossbar from East st to the Valley as part of the centenary.
They have given permission, that is it.
Of course Duchatelet would have leaned on them to have no march nor protest at all so this reads like a compromise.
I don't doubt the Belgian police have spoken to the Met Police and CARD and been re-assured that it will be, whatever @Leuth and others want to pretend, peaceful just like all the other protests.
And no doubt the mayor is thinking of all the unhappy hoteliers and bar owners there will be if they lose their 100s of bookings and customers at short notice.
That Roland is complaining, possibly slandering people and re-acting at all means the protest s have won already. We've got to him, he's unhappy and he's upset.
had a dream last night we gatecrashed a celebratory dinner at the valley held in roland's honour and him being the guest. We managed to hide in a cake and burst out singing "WE WANT ROLAND OUT". As he tried to escape I cornered him and convinced him to sell charlton.
had a dream last night we gatecrashed a celebratory dinner at the valley held in roland's honour and him being the guest. We managed to hide in a cake and burst out singing "WE WANT ROLAND OUT". As he tried to escape I cornered him and convinced him to sell charlton.
"It is a few hot heads who previously worked directly or indirectly for the club and who were shown the door due to their rebellious and rowdy attitude. They also don't like the fact that I give Katrien Meire my support. The decision and consequences for the demonstration lie at the feet of the mayor and police chief."
I think that might be libellous, Roland. It's certainly not something you could prove, as it isn't anywhere near true, and given the number of people who worked for the club it's obvious that individuals could be identified.
Well according to him, on Belgium TV, the players that were brought in for Powell to use were better than the ones we had and they kept us up under Riga! Obviously, the truth doesn't seem to be much of an obstacle for the cowardly scumbag! I think the only network player that played a significant part was AA and Powell had him at the training ground before the ink was dry on the sale! Riga did it with Powell's players. What was impressive was he was lacking Kermogant and Stephens, which might have made his task a little easier!
Mind you if he doesn't watch the games Meire claims he does - maybe he didn't know that! LIARS!
Well, it is good to see the regime has invested wisely in hiring that bloke from Pitch PR to stop negative publicity about the club's owner from getting out....
I remember RD also referred to Liege fans In a similar way when they were protesting against him a few years Back. He'd be incredibly surprised to know what some of the Belgian 200 work as, I have no doubt of that. But that won't stop him using the 'ex-employee' tag.
Going to Northampton rather than St Truiden but hope the protests are effective, having a supporters group from St Truiden (which I'm taken to believe is pronounced "saant traanden"?) onboard is fantastic news.
The leaflets explained the upcoming protest in Belgium on 4 March and did have a request for more attendees.
When handing them out, we found not everyone is, unsurisingly, able to make a trip to Belgium and I think that keeping the knowledge alive that there is a real reason to continue protests and that people are working in this for the future success of the club was almost as valuable as the extra few people who will be swayed to make the trip.
I stupidly didn't keep a flyer and so can't post the exact details but I'm sure others did.
This is a google translation of the GrAS facebook page
Yesterday · Public Who are we and what do we want? We are a group of supporters who believe STVV should be run as a competitive professional sports club, not a social club, a shopping center or a convenient but insignificant part of a company. Since the NV Stayen exists thanks to the original purchase of the stadium grounds for the football club STVV and to this day the brand STVV benefits from it, it is only fair and reasonable that the football club also benefits from this relationship. We therefore ask that NV Stayen: • writes off all existing debt of STVV, formal and non virtual via a so-called. Risk contract • waives all existing claims to the TV rights • waive all remaining rights to players • negotiates about a more favorable lease with the club We also request that Duchâtelet undertakes: • To make the football really competitive on the field • to express a healthy ambition for the club to pursue sporting successes • If Duchâtelet can not undertake here, we ask that he is actively looking for a suitable buyer for the club, which will give us the opportunity to grow and be successful.
Background In 2004 when Duchâtelet became the new owner of STVV with the promise to create a strong and stable first division STVV, the club's debt was but 700,000 euros. At the time Staaien was still owned by the city of Sint-Truiden. Duchâtelet, thanks to his local political connections, managed to negotiate in 2008 the purchase of the stadium and surrounding land at a price below the real market value. A new limited company, NV Stayen, was founded. The football was used as a convenient excuse to invest in all kinds of commercial areas. Duchâtelet spent as a sloppy 35 million euro for new stands, hotels, apartment buildings, underground parking, offices, facilities, meeting rooms and build a fitness center for the NV Stayen. In 2011 Duchâtelet bought Standard, and one of his business partners at that time, Benoît Morenne took charge of the responsibility of STVV. At that time the debt STVV to Duchâtelet had risen to as high as 7 million. This debt was largely built by his own failing sporting policy. The story that appeared in the press was that Duchâtelet by way of gesture forgave the debts of STVV, but in reality only postponed its payment. The debt would be repaid by 15% to Duchâtelet STVV's TV rights and commercial rights (ie transfer) to cede a number STVV players. Of course, these players were all sold quickly. Moreover led to the abnormally high number of transfers and lending cycles between STVV and Standard, the fact that Bart Lammens took over in 2012 as chairman at the request of Roland Duchâtelet, and the deals between NV STVV on one hand and NV Stayen (Marieke Höfte) on the other to speculation and research on the lasting influence of Roland Duchâtelet, at that time chairman of Standard, the daily operation of STVV. All commercial income from the new stadium flowed to NV Stayen and very little or nothing to the football club, despite Staaien being home to the club since 1927. The only option for STVV was entering into a commercial lease agreement with NV Stayen. In June 2015 Duchâtelet sold Standard to Bruno Venanzi and then he came back late in May 2016 at the helm stand STVV. He took over from Bart Lammens, he was still four years had himself asked to be chairman. Then he placed his partner, Marieke Höfte, at the head of the football club and around the same time, plans were announced for a new South Stand, with 1,500 seats and more offices and commercial spaces. In a recent interview Duchâtelet had understood that STVV had no ambition club but a social club that Stayen primarily a place to shop, eat, drink, dance and have fun.
In summary Behind a smokescreen of "investment in the football stadium" Duchâtelet made good use of his political connections and STVV fans to create a robust company. It's obvious that he cares little or nothing to sporting success and that its focus is mainly on the growth of its assets. Despite the fact that he owns the club and stadium, STVV will not receive preferential treatment. The club is just a source of income for the NV Stayen. For STVV this relationship has no chance in the further development of the club and the pursuit of sporting success, on the contrary. Or by analogy with an earlier judgment of Duchâtelet: STVV is a club that plays happen to Stayen.
Then it repeats the opening section.
This makes for shocking reading. It is what will happen to Charlton unless our protest on 4th March is effective. Do you want to be looking back in 13 years time, thinking "Did I do enough to try to stop this happening?"
Please make the effort to travel to Sint Truiden to protest. We need as many as possible to really rattle Roland's cage. We know he doesn't like us visiting his home town and he certainly doesn't like being ridiculed publicly there.
Local media have already picked up on the planned protest and the involvement of GRAS will only increase the media attention.
This could be the one thing that tips the balance and makes him sell if it is big enough, and you could be a part of it.
The organisers have put so much of their time, effort and money into planning it. These are people with full time jobs and families, just like you lot. It is there on a plate for you (literally in the case of the buffet!). It is subsidised if you need it to be. All we need now are as many Charlton supporters out there as possible to let Duchatelet know how much we detest what he is doing to our club.
Yes, I know many of you have tickets for Northampton, and you haven't visited their ground before. FFS! Go watch us there next season (well, unless we are relegated). We will draw 1-1 or lose anyway and the football will be sh*t!
The club is being destroyed by this man. Please come over to Belgium and help try to stop him.
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It is a small town though, and I felt last time I was there that Roland was the Lord of the Manor as it were and everybody with authority was in his thrall.
They have given permission, that is it.
Of course Duchatelet would have leaned on them to have no march nor protest at all so this reads like a compromise.
I don't doubt the Belgian police have spoken to the Met Police and CARD and been re-assured that it will be, whatever @Leuth and others want to pretend, peaceful just like all the other protests.
And no doubt the mayor is thinking of all the unhappy hoteliers and bar owners there will be if they lose their 100s of bookings and customers at short notice.
That Roland is complaining, possibly slandering people and re-acting at all means the protest s have won already. We've got to him, he's unhappy and he's upset.
And there is still more to come.
You're welcome fellas.
Mind you if he doesn't watch the games Meire claims he does - maybe he didn't know that! LIARS!
All we need now is a Kitchener-style poster of Roland saying something like "Your club-protest needs you"
Stig?????
And democracy!
But that won't stop him using the 'ex-employee' tag.
I'm taking one saying "That's Odd - This Doesn't Look Like Northampton"
When handing them out, we found not everyone is, unsurisingly, able to make a trip to Belgium and I think that keeping the knowledge alive that there is a real reason to continue protests and that people are working in this for the future success of the club was almost as valuable as the extra few people who will be swayed to make the trip.
I stupidly didn't keep a flyer and so can't post the exact details but I'm sure others did.
Please make the effort to travel to Sint Truiden to protest. We need as many as possible to really rattle Roland's cage. We know he doesn't like us visiting his home town and he certainly doesn't like being ridiculed publicly there.
Local media have already picked up on the planned protest and the involvement of GRAS will only increase the media attention.
This could be the one thing that tips the balance and makes him sell if it is big enough, and you could be a part of it.
The organisers have put so much of their time, effort and money into planning it. These are people with full time jobs and families, just like you lot. It is there on a plate for you (literally in the case of the buffet!). It is subsidised if you need it to be. All we need now are as many Charlton supporters out there as possible to let Duchatelet know how much we detest what he is doing to our club.
Yes, I know many of you have tickets for Northampton, and you haven't visited their ground before. FFS! Go watch us there next season (well, unless we are relegated). We will draw 1-1 or lose anyway and the football will be sh*t!
The club is being destroyed by this man. Please come over to Belgium and help try to stop him.