The club's PR reads like someone has remembered, at the last minute, to search and replace "the South Stand" in Cojones' draft with "the JIMMY SEED STAND" (in very shouty capitals). And quick, ring up one of his relatives and get a quote.
Actually JS's and the museum had been pushing for some action on this and the Sam Bartram stand entrance.
Club need to actually DO SOMETHING before claiming credit but even then they should have done it with out prombting and paid for it.
Put your money where your mouth is, Daisy.
Good work - so not entirely connected to the other meeting then!
Only in their heads.
I had already spoken to Jim Dutton about raising the money and we were talking to others who might help.
I still want this to happen but uncomfortable about how it's been twisted.
Once again and with respect Henry, the club terminated the VIP membership (please correct me if I'm wrong) saying they no longer needed the money. Why are they not paying for general maintenance themselves?
How long will it be before T20k and others realise that they are being used? You lot really can't be that soft in the head can you?
The only conclusion I can draw is that these fans are well aware of the twist being put on it but for whatever reason they are happy to be used as pawns!
You have no respect from me whatsoever in the current circumstances for allowing yourselves to be used against the majority of fans.
The club's PR reads like someone has remembered, at the last minute, to search and replace "the South Stand" in Cojones' draft with "the JIMMY SEED STAND" (in very shouty capitals). And quick, ring up one of his relatives and get a quote.
Actually JS's and the museum had been pushing for some action on this and the Sam Bartram stand entrance.
Club need to actually DO SOMETHING before claiming credit but even then they should have done it with out prombting and paid for it.
Put your money where your mouth is, Daisy.
Have Bromley Addicks asked for Meire to come on our terms to Bromley?
I do not think squirrel face would be very comfortable with an 'away fixture'.
One of the regime's first moves in 2014 was to tidy up the stadium.
They now need a committee to point out that the museum has pointed out a sign has been left outdoors for quite a while and is in need of repair/replacement.
Either Miere's eyesight has deteriorated over the last couple of years or this is fan engagement for the sake of it.
We are now talking about signage and naming stands. Shouldn't someone in the SMT delegate the trivial or is this, as I suspect, just another method of deflecting the real issues?
People have complained about it on twitter, the museum have complained about it and Target20k raised it and it's now being addressed. Why the negative comments toward Target20k?
Of course this isn't going to suddenly bring in 10,000 extra fans but it goes some way towards showing the club is listening to the fans. Small steps and all that
People have complained about it on twitter, the museum have complained about it and Target20k raised it and it's now being addressed. Why the negative comments toward Target20k?
Of course this isn't going to suddenly bring in 10,000 extra fans but it goes some way towards showing the club is listening to the fans. Small steps and all that
Nonsense. The point of Target 20k is to be strategic. It is not there to report fans' views on minor infrastructure issues and the quote shows that it doesn't understand that.
Anybody reading this from the club or target 20k. What if fans are not on twitter or Facebook? How are they consulted and represented? Target 20k in the article say they listen to and represent fans, perhaps they can tell us how and detail the numbers involved. It looks to me like a handful of people making it up as they go along.
People have complained about it on twitter, the museum have complained about it and Target20k raised it and it's now being addressed. Why the negative comments toward Target20k?
Of course this isn't going to suddenly bring in 10,000 extra fans but it goes some way towards showing the club is listening to the fans. Small steps and all that
I am surprised that you don't understand why there are negative comments on the story or T20k.
People have complained about it on twitter, the museum have complained about it and Target20k raised it and it's now being addressed. Why the negative comments toward Target20k?
Of course this isn't going to suddenly bring in 10,000 extra fans but it goes some way towards showing the club is listening to the fans. Small steps and all that
What are the actual practicalities of this listening stuff you speak of? A group of three people are gathered together for a chat by Tony Keohane? The most representative and formally constituted group of fans, the Trust, have been systematically marginalised, and the last face to face was the Trust telling the regime to sell, that hasn't been listened to has it? Indeed fans were lied to by Katrien Miere on the day of Slades appointment when she said that interested investors wanted to leave the Valley, a claim she can't substantiate. Anyway, given the Graham Moore fiasco the refreshed sign on the Jimmy Seed stand will probably read 'The Roger Johnson Stand '.
People complained about something - it's been acted upon - people complain it's being acted upon.
What's the fucking point
Everybody knows this will not bring an additional 10 or 15,000 fans through the door that will take a lot more time and effort. What is the harm in getting a few quick wins in in the meantime?
People complained about something - it's been acted upon - people complain it's being acted upon.
What's the fucking point
Everybody knows this will not bring an additional 10 or 15,000 fans through the door that will take a lot more time and effort. What is the harm in getting a few quick wins in in the meantime?
For Target20K read Sue Parkes. 'The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.' George Orwell, Animal Farm.
People complained about something - it's been acted upon - people complain it's being acted upon.
What's the fucking point
Everybody knows this will not bring an additional 10 or 15,000 fans through the door that will take a lot more time and effort. What is the harm in getting a few quick wins in in the meantime?
But it's not a win is it? It's a con.
Unless you are telling us this news is a win because the SMT has accepted there is no such stand as the South Stand.
People complained about something - it's been acted upon - people complain it's being acted upon.
What's the fucking point
Everybody knows this will not bring an additional 10 or 15,000 fans through the door that will take a lot more time and effort. What is the harm in getting a few quick wins in in the meantime?
People complained about something - it's been acted upon - people complain it's being acted upon.
What's the fucking point
Everybody knows this will not bring an additional 10 or 15,000 fans through the door that will take a lot more time and effort. What is the harm in getting a few quick wins in in the meantime?
As I said above I want this to happen. Some of you will remember that I was the one pushing the club post Back to the Valley to start using the proper name for the Jimmy Seed stand. We got there in 1995 and that was where I first met Jim Dutton, JS's grandson, who when he came to the museum last season was more than a bit put out that the sign with his grandfather's name was barely readable. He and the Museum trustees have been talking about this ever since. Jim has talked about sponsorship and I've spoken to one of the Valley Gold committee. I also got an estimate of £3k to put the sign up from Mick Everett. It the getting up that costs so much, more than the sign itself as we can't put a conventional cherry picker on the pitch during the season for obvious reasons.
I also copied in T20k into a series of tweets that Jim Dutton put out about the sign and to their credit they raised it at a meeting with the club. So far, so good.
But all the Club and T20k have said is that they will "work with fans".
They haven't said that they will fund it.
They haven't set a date by when it will be done.
They haven't said anything really and they haven't actually DONE anything yet either.
IF IF IF they had put up a story about the signing going up then great. That would have been worth a story although as others have said it should have been done anyway.
It's like your company putting out an article about the completion of the training ground. You wouldn't do it as you've not actually done it.
Meanwhile this is the Sam Bartram gate in 2016 and 2013.
Pics from Airman Brown
will remember this next time VOTV wants one of my pics! : - )
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The only conclusion I can draw is that these fans are well aware of the twist being put on it but for whatever reason they are happy to be used as pawns!
You have no respect from me whatsoever in the current circumstances for allowing yourselves to be used against the majority of fans.
I do not think squirrel face would be very comfortable with an 'away fixture'.
Every day that goes by I feel less and less connected to "my" club. One day the disconnection wil be such that there is no coming back.
The old me would've gone on to say that I hope he sells before it comes to that. The current me thinks, "fuck it".
They now need a committee to point out that the museum has pointed out a sign has been left outdoors for quite a while and is in need of repair/replacement.
Either Miere's eyesight has deteriorated over the last couple of years or this is fan engagement for the sake of it.
These people are an embarrassment, and either simple or just crave attention.
People have complained about it on twitter, the museum have complained about it and Target20k raised it and it's now being addressed. Why the negative comments toward Target20k?
Of course this isn't going to suddenly bring in 10,000 extra fans but it goes some way towards showing the club is listening to the fans. Small steps and all that
What if fans are not on twitter or Facebook?
How are they consulted and represented?
Target 20k in the article say they listen to and represent fans, perhaps they can tell us how and detail the numbers involved.
It looks to me like a handful of people making it up as they go along.
I thought the reasons were obvious.
A group of three people are gathered together for a chat by Tony Keohane?
The most representative and formally constituted group of fans, the Trust, have been systematically marginalised, and the last face to face was the Trust telling the regime to sell, that hasn't been listened to has it?
Indeed fans were lied to by Katrien Miere on the day of Slades appointment when she said that interested investors wanted to leave the Valley, a claim she can't substantiate.
Anyway, given the Graham Moore fiasco the refreshed sign on the Jimmy Seed stand will probably read 'The Roger Johnson Stand '.
What's the fucking point
Everybody knows this will not bring an additional 10 or 15,000 fans through the door that will take a lot more time and effort. What is the harm in getting a few quick wins in in the meantime?
Unless you are telling us this news is a win because the SMT has accepted there is no such stand as the South Stand.
As I said above I want this to happen. Some of you will remember that I was the one pushing the club post Back to the Valley to start using the proper name for the Jimmy Seed stand. We got there in 1995 and that was where I first met Jim Dutton, JS's grandson, who when he came to the museum last season was more than a bit put out that the sign with his grandfather's name was barely readable. He and the Museum trustees have been talking about this ever since. Jim has talked about sponsorship and I've spoken to one of the Valley Gold committee. I also got an estimate of £3k to put the sign up from Mick Everett. It the getting up that costs so much, more than the sign itself as we can't put a conventional cherry picker on the pitch during the season for obvious reasons.
I also copied in T20k into a series of tweets that Jim Dutton put out about the sign and to their credit they raised it at a meeting with the club. So far, so good.
But all the Club and T20k have said is that they will "work with fans".
They haven't said that they will fund it.
They haven't set a date by when it will be done.
They haven't said anything really and they haven't actually DONE anything yet either.
IF IF IF they had put up a story about the signing going up then great. That would have been worth a story although as others have said it should have been done anyway.
It's like your company putting out an article about the completion of the training ground. You wouldn't do it as you've not actually done it.
Meanwhile this is the Sam Bartram gate in 2016 and 2013.
Pics from Airman Brown
will remember this next time VOTV wants one of my pics! : - )