Sorry but why are you surprised? The bookies had us favourites to go down and we have.
The campaign as I mentioned before was flawed against Katrien. Too many cooks and all that. If personalities has not taken it upon themselves to speak on behalf of all Charlton fans had actually consulted all Charlton fans then a different and more subtle approach could have been taken earlier. It seems to me calling her a slag, bitch, c.nt etc played into her hands.
She is still employed because she showed the balls to stand up and take the abuse. I honestly don't see the point that some of you are making. If she had resigned are you suggesting we will have stayed up contrary to the bookies prediction?
I reckon she has offered to resign but Roland refused and told her to stand up to the fans earning his respect. Why some of you want to engage with the board is curious to me? Why? It's Roland's toy and he is not gonna let you play with it, iand all the beach balls in the world is not going to change that.
Yes, I know, as other posters have pointed out, that you are trying to provoke but just listen to yourself. Katrien Meire most certainly does not have balls in either the literal or figurative sense - at least I hope note in the case of the former - that would be a shock.
How does going to Dubai for 10 days at a critical time for the club show any balls? More the act of someone who wanted to distance themselves from her responsibilities.
Her statement says that mistakes have been made but she as CEO sees fit not to take responsibility for any of them clearly or like any reasonable person she would have resigned - and in doing so recognising that she has become a liability to the owner and cannot function in any re-building process. Her only successes have come in alienating fans and indeed some sponsors.
Duchatelet is not doing her a favour by leaving her in place as it seems she has become as deluded in her own way as Duchaletlet and will suffer for it in the future when the extent of her mis-management and utter inability to engage with the football world is more widely known. This woman is not fit to sit on the corner flag sofa let alone in the Boardroom.
Every second that she hangs on to her job it is not bravery or courage she is displaying but foolhardiness of the highest order. I cannot wish her anything other than a speedy departure from the club and I would welcome never to hear of her again.
Let's face facts - she did not kick a ball all season. She is a puppet of the regime. The campaign against her was counterproductive and instead of a nice side ways shuffle out the door, Roland has gallantly kept her in the job, because as he sees it badly dressed and overweight middle aged English men screaming abuse at her, has just strengthened her resolve and that of her master to keep her. Seems obvious to me.
Accept it - she has the balls to do the job (whatever that is) and not resign - she has won.
I wonder how she would score on the 'would ya' thread now.
Are you a complete Pratt as well, maybe make a play for the CEO position.
All you have to be able to do is to sell your soul to the Devil and have umpteen security guards around you since you don't have the balls to face the fans without them.
Previous CEOs were not high profile. They made sure the bills were paid and Health and safety was adhered to with a few admin tasks eg were there enough paper clips. The difference being a " football" manager controlled the team. The current CEO as per RDs management is more involved in football issues( which they have no experience or ability to do) The current CEO has highlighted their inabilities by their foolish statements and alienation of the fans. Other comments are correct they should a) be removed by the Board or b) resign due to their failure to do the job. On a final point, I feel both angry and a bit sorry for Richard Murray. I believe he cares or cared about Charlton. So why has he sat silent while the disaster we can all see has happened.
How about now telling us how your going to invest in a squad that's going to get back in the Championship, Hire a manager that's proven in the English Leagues,not another Belgian Waffle that couldn't run a bath, he got lucky last year, explain why you think you can charge £500 for a season ticket in League1? Tell the truth about the investment in the Sparrows Lane, that will land the Club with even more debts.
I you really think the Sofa is such a good idea, why don't you a Roland try it at one of the home Games??? its made us a laughing stock, get rid of it, who the FUCK wants to sit in the corner?? its like sitting on the naughty step.
Let's face facts - she did not kick a ball all season. She is a puppet of the regime. The campaign against her was counterproductive and instead of a nice side ways shuffle out the door, Roland has gallantly kept her in the job, because as he sees it badly dressed and overweight middle aged English men screaming abuse at her, has just strengthened her resolve and that of her master to keep her. Seems obvious to me.
Accept it - she has the balls to do the job (whatever that is) and not resign - she has won.
I wonder how she would score on the 'would ya' thread now.
This has got Incorruptible/ Spouting Rubbish on ITTV written all over it. Nice try Nigel.
As an Uncut subscriber since day one - I read his reviews every month in the magazine.
He knows his music to a degree - there are certainly much better writers in the magazine than him - but by god does he spout absolute patronising rubbish when it comes to Charlton - hard to believe its the same man.
Murray's a Pussy, a lap Dog to K and RD, sold us down the river, he wont even talk to Varney, no way out!!! keep the protests, perhaps they may get our drift with next to no income, I hope S/Tickets sale have stalled, the Black hole is getting deeper.
It’s Murray’s part in this whole mess that still puzzles me. Duchatelet thinks he is a visionary, all things he does will work because he sees the bigger picture, if they don’t it’s a failure of implantation or just they are just ahead of their time. Meire has got a gig way above her expertise and ability but gives her the platform she thinks she deserves. Tony Ballbag likewise, with his degree in Electronics from Herts, rather than being a hotdog salesman, he can dream of being part of the bigger Duch Empire. Even Maurice Mad Hatter, he can sit next to someone who smells nice at football matches and shoo away oiks. But Murray, surely when Carol Fry rocked up, any chance of getting that money back was gone for good. Why sit and do nothing other than disrupt any Varney advances.
She has succeeded in dismantling the infrastructure. It reminds me of successive govts 'improving' the NHS when none of the arse lickin' fekkers they employed had a clue about running a vital service which was heavily dependent on staff loyalty and willingness to go the extra mile. Easy to chuck out goodwill but it takes years to get it back. Katrien, you really are a spoilt and ignorant young woman.
It's always useful to engage in some displacement activity to take your mind off major disappointments like the current state of our club, but is that actually an Oxford comma in the normal sense of the term?
The Charlton Athletic ownership would like to apologise for the unnecessary relegation of your football club and any inconvenience this may cause. This was due to circumstances beyond our control. Have a nice day.
Like it. Sounds like a railway station announcement. Choo choo.
She is earning I guess about 200k a year. Not bad money and certainly worth taking if all you have to do professionally is listen to the same faces taking the same old tired points. The abuse just cements her position
She is a trained lawyer and seems to have outlasted all the worse that has been thrown at her. Like Thatcher she is looking for her Falklands moment and I reckon next year she might get it. I am not happy about relegation but sometimes you have to fall to get up. As a Charlton fan I look forward to fighting back and not bitching all the time when things don't go or way.
Has someone actually got a reasonable alternative to Katrien or are we gonna keep on with the 'my dog could do better - rubbish.
Can someone remind me who was the CEO when we last got relegated to Div 1? I can't recall the level of abuse that time around - why the difference?
It's a shame we can't find out the IP address of where these posts are coming from..I wonder if the computer is located in SE7 or SE9?
Incorruptible Addick/Spouting rubbish on ITTV is your man.
Why don't we all join ITTV and go on there and wind them up and talk bollocks,i'm sure they will enjoy the banter
She is earning I guess about 200k a year. Not bad money and certainly worth taking if all you have to do professionally is listen to the same faces taking the same old tired points. The abuse just cements her position
She is a trained lawyer and seems to have outlasted all the worse that has been thrown at her. Like Thatcher she is looking for her Falklands moment and I reckon next year she might get it. I am not happy about relegation but sometimes you have to fall to get up. As a Charlton fan I look forward to fighting back and not bitching all the time when things don't go or way.
Has someone actually got a reasonable alternative to Katrien or are we gonna keep on with the 'my dog could do better - rubbish.
Can someone remind me who was the CEO when we last got relegated to Div 1? I can't recall the level of abuse that time around - why the difference?
It's a shame we can't find out the IP address of where these posts are coming from..I wonder if the computer is located in SE7 or SE9?
Incorruptible Addick/Spouting rubbish on ITTV is your man.
Why don't we all join ITTV and go on there and wind them up and talk bollocks,i'm sure they will enjoy the banter
Be worth it so CL members can reaquaint themselves with SeriouslyRed, he's a laugh
Great find @The Red Robin. I followed the link through to Glassdoor. Some very telling quotes on there:
➽ Very top down decision making style. Influence depends on personal relationship to top management (very political) and merit is not recognized or rewarded. Management decisions are also generally not transparent (although they are advertised to be.) ➽ Extremely bad managment. Projects are messy and uninterestiing, no proper planning. ➽ Bad senior management - centralized in Belgium. Very little flexibility from the management side. ➽ Everyday firefighting and short term problem solution is dominating the day-to-day work. Root cause analyses are done but with no or very less consequences ➽ Very very very slow ... No business acumen and stick in their slow and dated ways slow/ stuck in their own old ways. Change is not almost but certainly impossible , decision have to be mulled over to death and then some ➽ Advancement relies heavily on internal politics. Difficult to advance if you haven't made the favorites list. ➽ The ownership is very cliquey, and this is reflected throughout the management hierarchy, ridiculous project schedules, unspoken expectations for long hours, only way to move up is to suck up. ➽ Merit pay is based on things beyond the average person's control, and reviews are only good if you're helping your manager look better than they are (most are pretty bad at their jobs, here). Everyone I've met, seems tired of bad management. HR is horrible, and in some cases, given full site management authority (even over Engineering!).
Interesting that 22% approve of the CEO, so she's obviously a lot better than Mare. Only 12% would recommend it to a friend.
She is earning I guess about 200k a year. Not bad money and certainly worth taking if all you have to do professionally is listen to the same faces taking the same old tired points. The abuse just cements her position
She is a trained lawyer and seems to have outlasted all the worse that has been thrown at her. Like Thatcher she is looking for her Falklands moment and I reckon next year she might get it. I am not happy about relegation but sometimes you have to fall to get up. As a Charlton fan I look forward to fighting back and not bitching all the time when things don't go or way.
Has someone actually got a reasonable alternative to Katrien or are we gonna keep on with the 'my dog could do better - rubbish.
Can someone remind me who was the CEO when we last got relegated to Div 1? I can't recall the level of abuse that time around - why the difference?
It's a shame we can't find out the IP address of where these posts are coming from..I wonder if the computer is located in SE7 or SE9?
Incorruptible Addick/Spouting rubbish on ITTV is your man.
Why don't we all join ITTV and go on there and wind them up and talk bollocks,i'm sure they will enjoy the banter
Be worth it so CL members can reaquaint themselves with SeriouslyRed, he's a laugh
Is he for or against the regime at the moment? I can never keep up.
Great find @The Red Robin. I followed the link through to Glassdoor. Some very telling quotes on there:
➽ Very top down decision making style. Influence depends on personal relationship to top management (very political) and merit is not recognized or rewarded. Management decisions are also generally not transparent (although they are advertised to be.) ➽ Extremely bad managment. Projects are messy and uninterestiing, no proper planning. ➽ Bad senior management - centralized in Belgium. Very little flexibility from the management side. ➽ Everyday firefighting and short term problem solution is dominating the day-to-day work. Root cause analyses are done but with no or very less consequences ➽ Very very very slow ... No business acumen and stick in their slow and dated ways slow/ stuck in their own old ways. Change is not almost but certainly impossible , decision have to be mulled over to death and then some ➽ Advancement relies heavily on internal politics. Difficult to advance if you haven't made the favorites list. ➽ The ownership is very cliquey, and this is reflected throughout the management hierarchy, ridiculous project schedules, unspoken expectations for long hours, only way to move up is to suck up. ➽ Merit pay is based on things beyond the average person's control, and reviews are only good if you're helping your manager look better than they are (most are pretty bad at their jobs, here). Everyone I've met, seems tired of bad management. HR is horrible, and in some cases, given full site management authority (even over Engineering!).
Interesting that 22% approve of the CEO, so she's obviously a lot better than Mare. Only 12% would recommend it to a friend.
It doesn't bother me to be honest, it's what all clubs stick out on these occasions.
Pretty poor to whack it out within the hour of the loss while the wound is still fresh. Also lines like this is no time for excuses, without any real reasonings or acceptance of what they have done - is patronising. Anyway, could pick holes in everything this regime does - pointless though in essence. We should use our energies thinking ways to embarrass those who are embarrassing us, and getting them from our Club.
'while the wound is still fresh'? Surely the writing was on the wall when we lost at home to all the other teams in the battle?
We won't make excuses because there are none. Mistakes have been made and rather than learn from them, we have repeated them. We appreciate fans will not appreciate our genuine remorse, but we are determined to rebuild our relationship with you all and ensure Charlton is the successful club it deserves to be and which you all deserve too. Actions speak louder than words so we ask fans to watch our actions from now on as we plan to get back to the Championship at the first attempt and build a team and spirit that takes us to where we all dream about. We are not asking you to trust us, but to watch and judge us critically and closely.
Of course, had they wrote a statement along these lines, we wouldn't be in the position we are! It is a combination of arrogance and incompetence that as got us where we are, and it isn't something that you can cure yourself of until you undertsand you possess these failings.
If we vote to Brexit can we get her deported as being a danger to the stability and security of our country ? She fits the bill as an undesirable alien .
When I read 'mistakes have been made and we will learn from them', I understood this to mean 'We made a mistake buying this club and the only way to rectify that is to sell it now.'
She is earning I guess about 200k a year. Not bad money and certainly worth taking if all you have to do professionally is listen to the same faces taking the same old tired points. The abuse just cements her position
She is a trained lawyer and seems to have outlasted all the worse that has been thrown at her. Like Thatcher she is looking for her Falklands moment and I reckon next year she might get it. I am not happy about relegation but sometimes you have to fall to get up. As a Charlton fan I look forward to fighting back and not bitching all the time when things don't go or way.
Has someone actually got a reasonable alternative to Katrien or are we gonna keep on with the 'my dog could do better - rubbish.
Can someone remind me who was the CEO when we last got relegated to Div 1? I can't recall the level of abuse that time around - why the difference?
If its true that she's getting paid £200k a year somebody needs to call the police. She has stolen every penny of it.
Haha 200K a year? She has the best job in the world and can go on holiday whenever she wants. She is also un-sackable as her boss is never there to witness how shit she is. 200k a year is self explanatory for why she stays in the job mate. Doesn't mean she has balls of steel.
The fact that Roland included the Weird/unique Dublin quotes in that bizarre official statement I think, means he believes those quotes and those quotes alone are the only reason Charlton fans have taken a major disliking to her.
In fact I think he is clueless about absolutely everything and has simply put too much trust in the wrong people (who he himself hired, the mug)
Almost sounds like Janine mugging off Barry from Eastenders and Richard Murrary is her accomplice. A weird unique analogy...but that was the 1st thing that came in my head. He is an old man is RD,...maybe not so wise with growing age.
Belgian bum face you are weird (meaning weird) and Katrien Meire you are a c*nt.
She is earning I guess about 200k a year. Not bad money and certainly worth taking if all you have to do professionally is listen to the same faces taking the same old tired points. The abuse just cements her position
She is a trained lawyer and seems to have outlasted all the worse that has been thrown at her. Like Thatcher she is looking for her Falklands moment and I reckon next year she might get it. I am not happy about relegation but sometimes you have to fall to get up. As a Charlton fan I look forward to fighting back and not bitching all the time when things don't go or way.
Has someone actually got a reasonable alternative to Katrien or are we gonna keep on with the 'my dog could do better - rubbish.
Can someone remind me who was the CEO when we last got relegated to Div 1? I can't recall the level of abuse that time around - why the difference?
It's a shame we can't find out the IP address of where these posts are coming from..I wonder if the computer is located in SE7 or SE9?
Incorruptible Addick/Spouting rubbish on ITTV is your man.
Why don't we all join ITTV and go on there and wind them up and talk bollocks,i'm sure they will enjoy the banter
Be worth it so CL members can reaquaint themselves with SeriouslyRed, he's a laugh
Is he for or against the regime at the moment? I can never keep up.
Great find @The Red Robin. I followed the link through to Glassdoor. Some very telling quotes on there:
➽ Very top down decision making style. Influence depends on personal relationship to top management (very political) and merit is not recognized or rewarded. Management decisions are also generally not transparent (although they are advertised to be.) ➽ Extremely bad managment. Projects are messy and uninterestiing, no proper planning. ➽ Bad senior management - centralized in Belgium. Very little flexibility from the management side. ➽ Everyday firefighting and short term problem solution is dominating the day-to-day work. Root cause analyses are done but with no or very less consequences ➽ Very very very slow ... No business acumen and stick in their slow and dated ways slow/ stuck in their own old ways. Change is not almost but certainly impossible , decision have to be mulled over to death and then some ➽ Advancement relies heavily on internal politics. Difficult to advance if you haven't made the favorites list. ➽ The ownership is very cliquey, and this is reflected throughout the management hierarchy, ridiculous project schedules, unspoken expectations for long hours, only way to move up is to suck up. ➽ Merit pay is based on things beyond the average person's control, and reviews are only good if you're helping your manager look better than they are (most are pretty bad at their jobs, here). Everyone I've met, seems tired of bad management. HR is horrible, and in some cases, given full site management authority (even over Engineering!).
Interesting that 22% approve of the CEO, so she's obviously a lot better than Mare. Only 12% would recommend it to a friend.
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Katrien Meire most certainly does not have balls in either the literal or figurative sense - at least I hope note in the case of the former - that would be a shock.
How does going to Dubai for 10 days at a critical time for the club show any balls? More the act of someone who wanted to distance themselves from her responsibilities.
Her statement says that mistakes have been made but she as CEO sees fit not to take responsibility for any of them clearly or like any reasonable person she would have resigned - and in doing so recognising that she has become a liability to the owner and cannot function in any re-building process. Her only successes have come in alienating fans and indeed some sponsors.
Duchatelet is not doing her a favour by leaving her in place as it seems she has become as deluded in her own way as Duchaletlet and will suffer for it in the future when the extent of her mis-management and utter inability to engage with the football world is more widely known. This woman is not fit to sit on the corner flag sofa let alone in the Boardroom.
Every second that she hangs on to her job it is not bravery or courage she is displaying but foolhardiness of the highest order. I cannot wish her anything other than a speedy departure from the club and I would welcome never to hear of her again.
All you have to be able to do is to sell your soul to the Devil and have umpteen security guards around you since you don't have the balls to face the fans without them.
The current CEO has highlighted their inabilities by their foolish statements and alienation of the fans.
Other comments are correct they should a) be removed by the Board or b) resign due to their failure to do the job.
On a final point, I feel both angry and a bit sorry for Richard Murray. I believe he cares or cared about Charlton. So why has he sat silent while the disaster we can all see has happened.
Sell up and do ONE.
Tell the truth about the investment in the Sparrows Lane, that will land the Club with even more debts.
I you really think the Sofa is such a good idea, why don't you a Roland try it at one of the home Games??? its made us a laughing stock, get rid of it, who the FUCK wants to sit in the corner?? its like sitting on the naughty step.
He knows his music to a degree - there are certainly much better writers in the magazine than him - but by god does he spout absolute patronising rubbish when it comes to Charlton - hard to believe its the same man.
A conundrum for you to work out, Katrien whilst you're twiddling your thumbs in the close season
As we KNOW you certainly won't be making any serious plans for the next one.
Hit. Brick. Head. Wall.
That's all you'll be doing until you & your mentor feck off and leave us to rebuild this great club that you have tried to dismantle.
To rephrase Nancy Reagan's famous words " Just , pray, go !"
You have demonstrably shown that you are incapable of learning from your mistakes - that makes you inept in my book.
With inept management and ownership we will not return to the Championship.
Therefore you need to piss off as soon as humanly possible.
It really is that simple.
I wasn't entirely serious BTW...
➽ Very top down decision making style. Influence depends on personal relationship to top management (very political) and merit is not recognized or rewarded. Management decisions are also generally not transparent (although they are advertised to be.)
➽ Extremely bad managment. Projects are messy and uninterestiing, no proper planning.
➽ Bad senior management - centralized in Belgium. Very little flexibility from the management side.
➽ Everyday firefighting and short term problem solution is dominating the day-to-day work. Root cause analyses are done but with no or very less consequences
➽ Very very very slow ... No business acumen and stick in their slow and dated ways
slow/ stuck in their own old ways. Change is not almost but certainly impossible , decision have to be mulled over to death and then some
➽ Advancement relies heavily on internal politics. Difficult to advance if you haven't made the favorites list.
➽ The ownership is very cliquey, and this is reflected throughout the management hierarchy, ridiculous project schedules, unspoken expectations for long hours, only way to move up is to suck up.
➽ Merit pay is based on things beyond the average person's control, and reviews are only good if you're helping your manager look better than they are (most are pretty bad at their jobs, here). Everyone I've met, seems tired of bad management. HR is horrible, and in some cases, given full site management authority (even over Engineering!).
Interesting that 22% approve of the CEO, so she's obviously a lot better than Mare. Only 12% would recommend it to a friend.
"Low cost company - CEO slogan "Do more with less""
We won't make excuses because there are none. Mistakes have been made and rather than learn from them, we have repeated them. We appreciate fans will not appreciate our genuine remorse, but we are determined to rebuild our relationship with you all and ensure Charlton is the successful club it deserves to be and which you all deserve too. Actions speak louder than words so we ask fans to watch our actions from now on as we plan to get back to the Championship at the first attempt and build a team and spirit that takes us to where we all dream about. We are not asking you to trust us, but to watch and judge us critically and closely.
Of course, had they wrote a statement along these lines, we wouldn't be in the position we are! It is a combination of arrogance and incompetence that as got us where we are, and it isn't something that you can cure yourself of until you undertsand you possess these failings.
When I read 'mistakes have been made and we will learn from them', I understood this to mean 'We made a mistake buying this club and the only way to rectify that is to sell it now.'
The fact that Roland included the Weird/unique Dublin quotes in that bizarre official statement I think, means he believes those quotes and those quotes alone are the only reason Charlton fans have taken a major disliking to her.
In fact I think he is clueless about absolutely everything and has simply put too much trust in the wrong people (who he himself hired, the mug)
Almost sounds like Janine mugging off Barry from Eastenders and Richard Murrary is her accomplice. A weird unique analogy...but that was the 1st thing that came in my head. He is an old man is RD,...maybe not so wise with growing age.
Belgian bum face you are weird (meaning weird) and Katrien Meire you are a c*nt.