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January rumours ( the big damp squib)

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    If other clubs are interested, he won't be coming here.
  • Part of our problem is that we don't have any scouts that are familiar with the English leagues and players like Dack and Tomlin.

    Mark Stow who's covering as head scout has plenty of English experience
  • Part of our problem is that we don't have any scouts that are familiar with the English leagues and players like Dack and Tomlin.

    Mark Stow who's covering as head scout has plenty of English experience
    Well Phil Chapple left for a reason. Apart from a loan or two RD isn't interested in British players.

  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    A Cypriot team trying to sign Bergdich according to some sport sites on Twitter.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    mart77 said:

    A Cypriot team trying to sign Bergdich according to some sport sites on Twitter.

    Saw this from a journo over here on Saturday, 3 hours later he started for us. Was reported as a done deal as well.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Well at least he has had a short shop window. He played well for the first 45 in a championship team so I reckon he is due a step up to Cypriot league,, the Sicilian league is a bit too hard but from Cyprus I hear you can step up through to Dubai no issues
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    But Murray said we were bringing in five British signings. He wouldn't lie would he?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    Perhaps a lack of transfers is an in dictation RD is willing to sell?
  • dickplumb said:

    But Murray said we were bringing in five British signings. He wouldn't lie would he?

    1. Johnson
    2. Williams
    3. Poyet
    4. Djiksteel ?
    5. Yeo

    Plus we re-signed Watt, Piggot (briefly), Obileye and Hariott.

    So really, he has outperformed.
  • J BLOCK said:

    Perhaps a lack of transfers is an in dictation RD is willing to sell?

    Or its just proof that a leopard doesnt change its spots?
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  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,749

    J BLOCK said:

    Perhaps a lack of transfers is an in dictation RD is willing to sell?

    Or its just proof that a leopard doesnt change its spots?
    I don't think he will change his spots in terms of going over budget a great deal, not getting the expected funds from selling Watt has probably finished off further spending.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    Shrew said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Perhaps a lack of transfers is an in dictation RD is willing to sell?

    Or its just proof that a leopard doesnt change its spots?
    I don't think he will change his spots in terms of going over budget a great deal, not getting the expected funds from selling Watt has probably finished off further spending.
    Good point
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Lookman linked with Tottenham again £4m and a loan back to us.
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Watt going out on loan again according to SLP. For fucksake
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    cafc4life said:

    Watt going out on loan again according to SLP. For fucksake

    I'd heard last week he wouldn't be here long.

    Cardiff not being able to buy him has royally fucked us over. I believe we had players lined up and that's gone pear shaped now

  • Swisdom said:

    cafc4life said:

    Watt going out on loan again according to SLP. For fucksake

    I'd heard last week he wouldn't be here long.

    Cardiff not being able to buy him has royally fucked us over. I believe we had players lined up and that's gone pear shaped now

    What i dont get is that Roland is minted,surely if he wants us to stay up he could get these players in and keep Watt until the summer then cash in on him to get his money back? Or am i being too simplistic?!
  • Unless we're closer to a FFP Transfer Embargo than we realise...

    i.e. If we kept Watt till the Summer we may survive relegation yet could end up with a transfer embargo through the whole summer, it'll mean we'll have to sell someone just to get out of the embargo for the January Window.

    It'll also mean that teams will know we're under the ban so will want our players for a cut price... Whilst we wont be able to strengthen at all

    Of course if there is the risk, surely it would just be easier to sell Lookman
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,739

    Unless we're closer to a FFP Transfer Embargo than we realise...

    i.e. If we kept Watt till the Summer we may survive relegation yet could end up with a transfer embargo through the whole summer, it'll mean we'll have to sell someone just to get out of the embargo for the January Window.

    It'll also mean that teams will know we're under the ban so will want our players for a cut price... Whilst we wont be able to strengthen at all

    Of course if there is the risk, surely it would just be easier to sell Lookman

    If the signings we have made put us close to a FFP transfer embargo then I really do give up!

    Doubt it has anything to do with FFP. There is a budget (an extremely tight/non-competitive one) and Roly will not budge from it regardless of the criminal waste of wages on the likes of Williams and Johnson.
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 839
    My understanding of FFP is that clubs can lose €5m per season (ie, spend €5m more than they earn), but a club's total losses over three years can run up to €45m as long as their owners could cover such losses.

    Given RD's frugality (ie his tight arse) I'd be amazed if we are anywhere near the big number.
  • Unless we're closer to a FFP Transfer Embargo than we realise...

    i.e. If we kept Watt till the Summer we may survive relegation yet could end up with a transfer embargo through the whole summer, it'll mean we'll have to sell someone just to get out of the embargo for the January Window.

    It'll also mean that teams will know we're under the ban so will want our players for a cut price... Whilst we wont be able to strengthen at all

    Of course if there is the risk, surely it would just be easier to sell Lookman

    If the signings we have made put us close to a FFP transfer embargo then I really do give up!

    Doubt it has anything to do with FFP. There is a budget (an extremely tight/non-competitive one) and Roly will not budge from it regardless of the criminal waste of wages on the likes of Williams and Johnson.
    I agree that I dont think its the FFP, just trying to think of the reasoning.

    In regards to our FFP limit though, dont forget we were a League One side when it came into effect which will have hurt us as instantly the amount we can spend in the Championship compared to other sides will be lower...

    Its like Manchester City, if they'd been taken over a few years later, they wouldnt be the powerhouse they are now, as spending £250m or whatever it is would have broken the limit by a long long way
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982

    Unless we're closer to a FFP Transfer Embargo than we realise...

    i.e. If we kept Watt till the Summer we may survive relegation yet could end up with a transfer embargo through the whole summer, it'll mean we'll have to sell someone just to get out of the embargo for the January Window.

    It'll also mean that teams will know we're under the ban so will want our players for a cut price... Whilst we wont be able to strengthen at all

    Of course if there is the risk, surely it would just be easier to sell Lookman

    If the signings we have made put us close to a FFP transfer embargo then I really do give up!

    Doubt it has anything to do with FFP. There is a budget (an extremely tight/non-competitive one) and Roly will not budge from it regardless of the criminal waste of wages on the likes of Williams and Johnson.
    I agree that I dont think its the FFP, just trying to think of the reasoning.

    In regards to our FFP limit though, dont forget we were a League One side when it came into effect which will have hurt us as instantly the amount we can spend in the Championship compared to other sides will be lower...

    Its like Manchester City, if they'd been taken over a few years later, they wouldnt be the powerhouse they are now, as spending £250m or whatever it is would have broken the limit by a long long way
    The reason is that we've got a tight c**t of an owner.
  • Welly
    Welly Posts: 493
    It seems to me, that our owner is the type the more we boo him,he will
    just laugh to himself and will not bugge from doing things his way.
    We must keep up our demonstrations but we are on fast track to
    relegation. Very sad
  • West Ham mate told me Reece Oxford coming to us on loan
  • #cafc set to sign West Ham's Reece Oxford on loan until end of the season. Can play CB and CM.

    From Rich Cawley
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    so we sign another loan youngster who we will probably play and improve, for someone else.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    I reckon RD's plan is coming to fruition nicely.....get relegated by not improving team other than the odd token gesture, sell off good players in the summer, replace with journeymen and kids, become a good to middling League 1 side, hope to have a small cup run, reduced crowds would be reduced costs on Police, stewarding, refreshments, away supporters, programs etc. Close JS stand and rebuild with some residential flats within it. Put small away following in reduced capacity JS stand, sell or lease flats. End of next season, due to still being in League 1, do exactly the same again (without the JS stand/flats piece) and continue along these lines................................what a crock of shit that will be!!
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    edited January 2016

    #cafc set to sign West Ham's Reece Oxford on loan until end of the season. Can play CB and CM.

    From Rich Cawley

    Kept a clean sheet away to Arsenal start of the season. But he was born in 1998 ffs, just the experience we need.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561

    I reckon RD's plan is coming to fruition nicely.....get relegated by not improving team other than the odd token gesture, sell off good players in the summer, replace with journeymen and kids, become a good to middling League 1 side, hope to have a small cup run, reduced crowds would be reduced costs on Police, stewarding, refreshments, away supporters, programs etc. Close JS stand and rebuild with some residential flats within it. Put small away following in reduced capacity JS stand, sell or lease flats. End of next season, due to still being in League 1, do exactly the same again (without the JS stand/flats piece) and continue along these lines................................what a crock of shit that will be!!

    painful to read but most likely the case
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    West Ham's feeder club
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792

    I reckon RD's plan is coming to fruition nicely.....get relegated by not improving team other than the odd token gesture, sell off good players in the summer, replace with journeymen and kids, become a good to middling League 1 side, hope to have a small cup run, reduced crowds would be reduced costs on Police, stewarding, refreshments, away supporters, programs etc. Close JS stand and rebuild with some residential flats within it. Put small away following in reduced capacity JS stand, sell or lease flats. End of next season, due to still being in League 1, do exactly the same again (without the JS stand/flats piece) and continue along these lines................................what a crock of shit that will be!!

    painful to read but most likely the case
    I don't care what RD's plans are as I won't be coming to games, except to protest, from the end of this season if he's still in control. I've had a season ticket for most of my adult life but this is the last year until RD leaves.
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