I've stopped going. I have enough Going on that's hard without enduring Roland's experiment. To me football is something to make your life more enjoyable. Duchatelet's Charlton currently just drains the life out of me and I can't afford that in my life.
Likewise, but it has done before and things have changed. I'm just going to ride it out, protest in whatever way I can (can't boycott but would walk out), and hope for that fantastic feeling of euphoria when KM/RD go as I felt when we went back to the Valley.
I've stopped going. I have enough Going on that's hard without enduring Roland's experiment. To me football is something to make your life more enjoyable. Duchatelet's Charlton currently just drains the life out of me and I can't afford that in my life.
Likewise, but it has done before and things have changed. I'm just going to ride it out, protest in whatever way I can (can't boycott but would walk out), and hope for that fantastic feeling of euphoria when KM/RD go as I felt when we went back to the Valley.
I never thought I would be able to stay away, I had/have lots going on in my life and missed quite a few games and then found myself making excuses not to go and Charlton Athletic (Not those in the red shirts) made it so easy for me to do. Birthdays, weddings, holidays would all revolve around the fixture list then I wouldn't go because of those reasons. Several anniversaries were celebrated in one lounge or another so I could see the game and keep the good lady sweet, Bartrams/Flyods was hired for our 25th. I must have spent thousands, like many others in the club shop on shirts etc, now I find I don't want to give the establishment a penny. If and when there is a march/boycott/walkout I will travel up to lend my support, until then I'll stay here. I haven't watched the video and probably won't but I understand comparisons are being made with cinemas and restaurants and their customers having no input into the business, which is fair enough. But KM one thing is for certain without the support of a loyal customer base you eventually will fail.When fans like FF are questioning their commitment then you know its going horribly wrong.
Talking of the boycott. I am a season ticket holder and did not go today. My mate went and told me that Crossbars and Bartrams were packed. What happened to the boycott of anything that is sold by the club. I think it is about time some of our fans do what they keep threatening and stop giving the club money...
I'm just going to copy and paste what I wrote on an e-mail to my brother a week or so ago when trying to persuade him to boycott:
I think Belgian culture is similar to French culture in respect to what is relevant here. In France people / workers may complain all they want in all the right acceptable ways about something. They may go on protest marches. They may (as the Liège fans did), even break into the boss's office and shout at him. But for as long as it doesn't affect the boss's way of life nothing changes. This is why there are so many strikes in France. This is why the riots occured in 2005. It is even arguably why there are young disaffected youth from the suburbs planning terrorist attacks, although that is quite an extreme argument I agree. You'd have to live in France for a while to get a feel of it. No-one cares unless they are directly affected. There are several things I dislike about French culture and this is one of them. This is also one reason why I distrusted Duchatelet from the start.
Ultimately if the fans don't go they will listen because it will directly affect their plans. Otherwise they won't listen, protests or no protests. It's that simple.
RD will stumble on as you put it; it's just a question of how long for. If we agree that the club's fortunes will inevitably continue to go downwards then it's best to put an end to it as soon as possible, even though that requires short term hurt to the club. Consider Duchatelet like a gangreen if you like. And if that means at the end of it that we have a Target 10000 campaign it will be instead of the Target 5000 campaign not instead of a 20000 one.
If I come back to England for a visit I may go to an away game but I'm not setting foot inside The Valley.
Fair play to the person/persons who threw the Pinocchio stickers from the Upper West before kick off. A fair amount seemed to land in the directors box and on the pitch.
Talking of the boycott. I am a season ticket holder and did not go today. My mate went and told me that Crossbars and Bartrams were packed. What happened to the boycott of anything that is sold by the club. I think it is about time some of our fans do what they keep threatening and stop giving the club money...
I was in crossbars before, at half time and after the match and it was far from packed. After the game I've never seen it so quiet. And btw I'm only in there so my son can go to the toilets, don't intend spending a penny until things change. Get a few dirty looks for wearing my black and white scarf in there too!
Talking of the boycott. I am a season ticket holder and did not go today. My mate went and told me that Crossbars and Bartrams were packed. What happened to the boycott of anything that is sold by the club. I think it is about time some of our fans do what they keep threatening and stop giving the club money...
That's your opinion. After the first goal went in that was the biggest noise I've heard from a disgruntled Charlton crowd in many a year. Every stand, the majority of the home crowd up on their feet and telling that stupid woman what we think of her and the clown of an owner.
The normally quiet lower west stand were fighting over each other at the end of the game to get to Interim Fraeye and give him a dogs full of abuse.
I was outside for that Sheffield Wednesday protest, and that was effective but today had so much more effect.
The people who are boycotting have been replaced by tourists. (some even speak English)
To boycott a team who are 23th in the Table has no effect at all.
Every team in the last 100 years who struggle in the football league lose their crowd, It's a facile gesture.
It only has an effect if you boycott a winning team.
I'm a fighter and will always encourage my team,
Superb By the crowd who haven't thrown in the towel to Let KM know we don't want them.
I disagree that a boycott of a team placed where we are would have no effect. Gradually dwindling crowds are a natural result of a team falling down the table. But, a complete boycott of any team, regardless of position would generate publicity on a national scale.
Talking of the boycott. I am a season ticket holder and did not go today. My mate went and told me that Crossbars and Bartrams were packed. What happened to the boycott of anything that is sold by the club. I think it is about time some of our fans do what they keep threatening and stop giving the club money...
I agree with reduttle I saw a number of people in black and white scarves happily buying food and drink in the North stand. I personally will not boycott games, why? Because is have a season ticket and this will be counted whether I go or not and having missed a handful of home games in the past 35+ years I am not going take part in what in my opinion will be a waste of time. Others will disagree and are entitled to their opinions. I will always support whatever team is on the pitch however shite they are and however much they let us down. I always have done and always will. I don't agree with what RD is doing and let's face it KM doesn't know her arse from her elbow, I wouldn't let her run a bath let alone a football club. I had my own experiences with her over 18 months ago and drew that conclusion from those conversations. At a time when some were singing her praises. I will continue to not buy food and drink in the ground or any merchandise, I personally think this is a fair alternative, people want to boycott matches can do so and I won't criticise them in return don't criticise those that want to support the team by going . Unfortunately, I can't see RD is changing his strategy any losses he makes would be covered by the real estate value of the Valley so doubt he really gives a s###. The difference between now and when we fought to get back to the Valley is the people running Charlton then were fans and would listen. Now They aren't.
Get a few dirty looks for wearing my black and white scarf in there too!
Is this seriously happening to some of our fans? Do people not want the best for our club or do we simply have a lot of ostriches following us? I was gutted today to have missed out on a free black and white scarf.
I keep promising myself I wont go back for a while, maybe even walk down to Hayes Lane and catch a Bromley match... but whenever I get the chance I jump at heading to The Valley.
If your going to protest do it properly, no black and white scarfs, boycotting, invade the pitch on mass hols the game up and attack rather than being limp wristed. ..u want to make noise and make a point then be more aggressive
I'm at the stage now where I am up for doing anything that gets the point and doesn't get me a criminal record. What sort of stuff can we start sneaking in that will cause a fuss that won't endanger anyone?
Handed back my season ticket to the ticket office after the game today told the guy behind it to pass it on to Miere. After I done it it felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. Never thought I'd feel like that thanks Pinnochio and Ratman you have truly broken me
I'm just going to copy and paste what I wrote on an e-mail to my brother a week or so ago when trying to persuade him to boycott:
I think Belgian culture is similar to French culture in respect to what is relevant here. In France people / workers may complain all they want in all the right acceptable ways about something. They may go on protest marches. They may (as the Liège fans did), even break into the boss's office and shout at him. But for as long as it doesn't affect the boss's way of life nothing changes. This is why there are so many strikes in France. This is why the riots occured in 2005. It is even arguably why there are young disaffected youth from the suburbs planning terrorist attacks, although that is quite an extreme argument I agree. You'd have to live in France for a while to get a feel of it. No-one cares unless they are directly affected. There are several things I dislike about French culture and this is one of them. This is also one reason why I distrusted Duchatelet from the start.
Ultimately if the fans don't go they will listen because it will directly affect their plans. Otherwise they won't listen, protests or no protests. It's that simple.
RD will stumble on as you put it; it's just a question of how long for. If we agree that the club's fortunes will inevitably continue to go downwards then it's best to put an end to it as soon as possible, even though that requires short term hurt to the club. Consider Duchatelet like a gangreen if you like. And if that means at the end of it that we have a Target 10000 campaign it will be instead of the Target 5000 campaign not instead of a 20000 one.
If I come back to England for a visit I may go to an away game but I'm not setting foot inside The Valley.
I've not been since the Huddersfield defeat in September. The only reason I have kept hold of my season ticket card is that I might need it to scrape the ice from my windscreen in the coming weeks.........
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Whether I can actually go through with a boycott I don't know ...but the fact I am considering it is a concern.
I know a few people, including family members, who have already given up.
I think Belgian culture is similar to French culture in respect to what is relevant here. In France people / workers may complain all they want in all the right acceptable ways about something. They may go on protest marches. They may (as the Liège fans did), even break into the boss's office and shout at him. But for as long as it doesn't affect the boss's way of life nothing changes. This is why there are so many strikes in France. This is why the riots occured in 2005. It is even arguably why there are young disaffected youth from the suburbs planning terrorist attacks, although that is quite an extreme argument I agree. You'd have to live in France for a while to get a feel of it. No-one cares unless they are directly affected. There are several things I dislike about French culture and this is one of them. This is also one reason why I distrusted Duchatelet from the start.
Ultimately if the fans don't go they will listen because it will directly affect their plans. Otherwise they won't listen, protests or no protests. It's that simple.
RD will stumble on as you put it; it's just a question of how long for. If we agree that the club's fortunes will inevitably continue to go downwards then it's best to put an end to it as soon as possible, even though that requires short term hurt to the club. Consider Duchatelet like a gangreen if you like. And if that means at the end of it that we have a Target 10000 campaign it will be instead of the Target 5000 campaign not instead of a 20000 one.
If I come back to England for a visit I may go to an away game but I'm not setting foot inside The Valley.
I can see Blackburn on 23rd Jan being a mid 90's crowd though.
The Covered End coming out with the 'anti-Meire' stuff is a big start.
The normally quiet lower west stand were fighting over each other at the end of the game to get to Interim Fraeye and give him a dogs full of abuse.
I was outside for that Sheffield Wednesday protest, and that was effective but today had so much more effect.
(some even speak English)
To boycott a team who are 23th in the Table has no effect at all.
Every team in the last 100 years who struggle in the football league
lose their crowd, It's a facile gesture.
It only has an effect if you boycott a winning team.
I'm a fighter and will always encourage my team,
Superb By the crowd who haven't thrown in the towel to
Let KM know we don't want them.
I personally will not boycott games, why? Because is have a season ticket and this will be counted whether I go or not and having missed a handful of home games in the past 35+ years I am not going take part in what in my opinion will be a waste of time. Others will disagree and are entitled to their opinions.
I will always support whatever team is on the pitch however shite they are and however much they let us down. I always have done and always will. I don't agree with what RD is doing and let's face it KM doesn't know her arse from her elbow, I wouldn't let her run a bath let alone a football club. I had my own experiences with her over 18 months ago and drew that conclusion from those conversations. At a time when some were singing her praises.
I will continue to not buy food and drink in the ground or any merchandise, I personally think this is a fair alternative, people want to boycott matches can do so and I won't criticise them in return don't criticise those that want to support the team by going .
Unfortunately, I can't see RD is changing his strategy any losses he makes would be covered by the real estate value of the Valley so doubt he really gives a s###.
The difference between now and when we fought to get back to the Valley is the people running Charlton then were fans and would listen. Now They aren't.
It's shockingly difficult to walk away from.
Can you imagine the feeling of walking in for that first game of a new era?
Very interesting perspective.
ticketcard is that I might need it to scrape the ice from my windscreen in the coming weeks.........