I think I saw the same as most others. He started off slowly and got better as the game progressed. Especially when Watt came on. It was a decent debut, so I'm hopeful. I thought his defending was better than his attacking. He headed clear a number of corners with fine leaps. But at the other end, he rarely jumped at all and lost more headers than he won. It's not uncommon for tall blokes to not jump much. I'm not sure if it's that they don't think they need to or that they're not "natural athletes".
I think I will cancel my doctors appointment now. I had come to the conclusion I must have been drifting in and out of consiousness all through the match because I obviously missed a lot of the 'many' headers he won in attack.
Managed to chat with him after game he said he was enjoying Charlton and had already settled in with everything like everyday life and was getting a better link between players like Watt and said he was working in the nutmeg for a while, he also told me something weird lol he said on long distance away matches he likes to download nursery rhymes and listen to them to calm him down as he is scared of long trips, he also told me that everything i have been saying is totally made up
Managed to chat with him after game he said he was enjoying Charlton and had already settled in with everything like everyday life and was getting a better link between players like Watt and said he was working in the nutmeg for a while, he also told me something weird lol he said on long distance away matches he likes to download nursery rhymes and listen to them to calm him down as he is scared of long trips, he also told me that everything i have been saying is totally made up
Managed to chat with him after game he said he was enjoying Charlton and had already settled in with everything like everyday life and was getting a better link between players like Watt and said he was working in the nutmeg for a while, he also told me something weird lol he said on long distance away matches he likes to download nursery rhymes and listen to them to calm him down as he is scared of long trips, he also told me that everything i have been saying is totally made up
That's a bit weird
Is am quite sure admin / welcome officers can cross check IP addresses with previous users - how did he get in again ?
Managed to chat with him after game he said he was enjoying Charlton and had already settled in with everything like everyday life and was getting a better link between players like Watt and said he was working in the nutmeg for a while, he also told me something weird lol he said on long distance away matches he likes to download nursery rhymes and listen to them to calm him down as he is scared of long trips, he also told me that everything i have been saying is totally made up
That's a bit weird
Is am quite sure admin / welcome officers can cross check IP addresses with previous users - how did he get in again ?
In the East stand there were plenty of our 'fans' in front of me who were moaning about the fact he wasn't winning every header (conveniently ignoring the fact that he was often challenging for the ball with two QPR players), and then sarcastically cheered and applauded him when he did. All within 25mins of his debut. Welcome to Charlton Simon!
I just hope he is allowed to settle into the English game and given the time and encouragement to improve, as he looks like he'll be a real asset. Unfortunately I foresee plenty of moaners getting on his back easily, who are of the opinion that he should be winning every single header, he should be scoring with his head every time a cross is played into the box, and should never be pushed/hustled off the ball, all because he is tall!
Simon Makienok: Palermo move was a disaster - Charlton can kickstart my career Thursday, 13 August 2015 By Richard Cawley Simon Makienok jumps with QPR's Clint Hill on Saturday Simon Makienok jumps with QPR's Clint Hill on Saturday SIMON Makienok reckons that his belated move to England can be a huge success. The striker has labelled his move to Palermo last August a “disaster” - and is determined that his season-long loan with Charlton gets his career back on track. Makienok, 24, was a hot property with his scoring record at HB Koge and then Brondby during six prolific seasons in his native Denmark. And the 6ft 7ins frontman looked to be taking a giant step forward when he joined Serie A Palermo a year ago. But newly-appointed director of football Franco Ceravolo was ditched after the Rosanero made a poor start - being replaced by Giuseppe Iachini, who guided them to 11th in the table. Makienok proved to be collateral damage. “Disaster - total disaster,” is his response when asked about his 12 months in Italy. “The sports director who got me to the club - and really wanted me there - got fired after two months. “Then the coach said ‘no, I don’t want this player’. I was excluded from the team. “I couldn’t get the chance to show what I could do. “They kept coming up with these excuses - I wasn’t ready, I wasn’t fit or I was injured. But the thing is, I was never given a chance. “I still trained with the first team - because they didn’t really have a second team or a younger squad - but I trained one or two times a week. “The other days, after games, were very tactical-based. I was on my own with some physical trainers, just running. “It was quite a hard time for me. I’m happy to be away from there. “It’s why I wanted to get away from there as fast as I could. I couldn’t do it in the previous transfer window, because I’d already played for Palermo and Brondby. I had to wait for the summer. “That’s also why my motivation and ambition now is very big. “Of course I want to show what I can do at Charlton - but I also want to show it was a mistake not giving me a chance at Palermo. “I’m very motivated to come here to Charlton, give everything I can and hopefully score lots of goals.” Makienok has been linked with a switch to England before - including Crystal Palace. The Eagles had a bid rejected by Brondby in the summer transfer window after Ian Holloway’s side won promotion to the Premier League. Makienok said: “I was aware [of the interest]. And there were other teams. But they couldn’t pay the fee. “My ambition has always been to come to England. My agents always worked hard for me to get here. But my old team wouldn’t sell me for the amount that the English clubs could pay for me. “I had to go to a team that would. There were also some Russian teams that could pay the price. That’s why I chose Palermo. And before I went there I really thought it would be the right decision. I was wrong.” But now comes that chance for Makienok to show if his preferred country will get the best out of him. Everywhere he has played in Denmark he has managed a scoring record of one goal just over every two league games. Makienok had three goals in five Superligaen matches before his big-money transfer to Palermo. But after that he managed just 56 minutes of top-flight Italian football. “I think I will fit best in England if you look at my height and strength,” said Makienok. “When this chance with Charlton came it was so easy for me because everything about English football - the mentality, the language and London - has been the perfect thing for me and my family. “I can’t wait to start the season because I’ve always loved the English game. “Most of the time when you have a player that has not played for a year he has to go down the levels a little bit to come back up again. But when I heard about Charlton I thought I could stay on the same road, or even be a step up, if I play here. “When I talked to the manager and the guy who owns the club then I had only positive thoughts.” Makienok has taken over the number nine shirt for Charlton, which was filled by Chris Eagles for the closing months of the 2014-15 campaign. It suggests that the Addicks see the heavily-tattooed striker as their main man. One ink across his chest proclaims ‘never a failure - always a lesson’. And a tattoo of a lion covers his entire back. It looks as if the hardship in Palermo could have added an extra layer of hunger for Makienok. “I don’t see any guarantees,” said Makienok. “I have to come here, get back in shape and match fitness. That’s all I’m thinking about - giving 100 per cent in every session to get back to the level I was when I was at my peak. Hopefully I can get there pretty soon. I want to push it to get even better. “I’ve always seen myself as a number nine player. At my old club Brondby I was the number nine, which means you should score most goals. That’s what I like. “I’m very honoured to play in this shirt. Hopefully I can live up to these expectations.”
He missed a sitter first header. Second and third headers couldn't have done no more. Very unlucky not to score.think he is going to be like Leaburn but can't fault his contrabution against Forest their defenders must have been glad to see the back of him he gave them a right battle. Be pleased with 10 goals from him over the season.think he needs his first goal let's hope it comes soon COYR
He's only played three championship games and three seria A games, he is not 100% up to speed yet. He has the physical attributes and the will to do well. Give him a few more games and he will be a real asset to CAFC. For me, the early signs are only good.
He's definitely got the power and the physique to give any defender a tough time (a lot of 'tall target men' seem to be made of noodles - compare Peter Crouch to Andy Carroll for example or Big Mak to the lanky guy the Milwall lot recruited) but equally important the whole 'Sweet Dreams' thing does seem to indicate he's got the right sort of personality to be popular and friendly to the squad as whole.
By the nature of his game he's probably going to be getting the rough house treatment just as much as he dishes it out and if that was me (in reality I am a foot shorter and let's just say chunky, that sounds respectable) I'd want my colleagues to be supportive and appreciative of being the one who has to take the lumps... and if you have a sense of humour that's certainly going to help.
What with some of the ridiculous transfer fees being banded about at the moment for strikers - do we think £2m is good value for Big Mak? And should we do it right now?
Just thinking Andre Gray at £9m is, obviously, ridiculous but how much can we trust Palermo to honour the agreement to sell him to us for £2m if he starts scoring a few goals and others come sniffing around.
What with some of the ridiculous transfer fees being banded about at the moment for strikers - do we think £2m is good value for Big Mak? And should we do it right now?
Just thinking Andre Gray at £9m is, obviously, ridiculous but how much can we trust Palermo to honour the agreement to sell him to us for £2m if he starts scoring a few goals and others come sniffing around.
We can't trust Palermo at all if the Alderweireld transfer is anything to go by. Contracts and agreements don't seem to mean much in football
I haven't seen him in a competitive game - just a couple of friendlies. But what I have heard and read is very interesting. It seems he will polarise people but I really think his nuisance value and strength are just something we are not used to seeing in a Charlton side.
I too like the things he has said and he does seem to be a character which is invaluable these days.
I hope he gets off the mark this weekend as I don't want some of the fans to bring him down - that said he doesn't strike me as someone who pays much attention to general opinion and he is his own man.
i like the bloke, we have needed a lump whilst he is technically good, can also bully defenders and give them something to worry about & he will be invaluable against Davies & Turner on saturday! i think he will come good for goals, sooner the better for his own confidence, but i think he will get between 10-13 for the season.
Thing is, even if he doesn't score more than maybe 10 or so goals he will be the cause of far more. Either by bludgeoning defenders out of the way, keeping them occupied and being a general nuisance at set plays or more directly by nodding down a few headers and holding up the ball and laying it off. He had a crucial part to play in both goals against QPR and the one up at Derby, but because he didn't score them himself a few morons have written him off already.
What with some of the ridiculous transfer fees being banded about at the moment for strikers - do we think £2m is good value for Big Mak? And should we do it right now?
Just thinking Andre Gray at £9m is, obviously, ridiculous but how much can we trust Palermo to honour the agreement to sell him to us for £2m if he starts scoring a few goals and others come sniffing around.
We can't trust Palermo at all if the Alderweireld transfer is anything to go by. Contracts and agreements don't seem to mean much in football
I don't have much to add on the Mak discussion as haven't seen enough of him to judge. But as for the Alderweireld situation, I think it serves Southampton right. Yes there was a deadline for the signing to be completed that hadn't passed, but apparently they hadn't made an effort to sign him before the deadline, so obviously as he was going to be sold by Athletico, as they hadn't heard from Southampton about making the transfer permanent they were going to 'market' the player for sale. As a bigger club came in for him, and for more money than was agreed with Southampton at the start of the loan neither player nor club would have wanted the move to Southampton.
If Southampton had said at the end of the season that they wanted to take the option of signing the player he would be a Southampton player now. They left it too long, leaving both Alderweireld and Athletico in limbo.
I hope that if SM is a success we can announce him as our first signing of summer 2016 and not give Palermo any excuse to not allow the transfer to go through
What with some of the ridiculous transfer fees being banded about at the moment for strikers - do we think £2m is good value for Big Mak? And should we do it right now?
Just thinking Andre Gray at £9m is, obviously, ridiculous but how much can we trust Palermo to honour the agreement to sell him to us for £2m if he starts scoring a few goals and others come sniffing around.
We can't trust Palermo at all if the Alderweireld transfer is anything to go by. Contracts and agreements don't seem to mean much in football
I don't have much to add on the Mak discussion as haven't seen enough of him to judge. But as for the Alderweireld situation, I think it serves Southampton right. Yes there was a deadline for the signing to be completed that hadn't passed, but apparently they hadn't made an effort to sign him before the deadline, so obviously as he was going to be sold by Athletico, as they hadn't heard from Southampton about making the transfer permanent they were going to 'market' the player for sale. As a bigger club came in for him, and for more money than was agreed with Southampton at the start of the loan neither player nor club would have wanted the move to Southampton.
If Southampton had said at the end of the season that they wanted to take the option of signing the player he would be a Southampton player now. They left it too long, leaving both Alderweireld and Athletico in limbo.
I hope that if SM is a success we can announce him as our first signing of summer 2016 and not give Palermo any excuse to not allow the transfer to go through
Well no, they didn't leave it too long because they had a deadline that hadn't passed. If you need to sign several players then it stands to reason you'd focus on filling the other positions first, knowing that you had an agreed deadline for one of them. They had an agreement in place and Atletico essentially reneged on that deal to ensure they got more money. The only reason Saints aren't kicking up a fuss is because it became pointless once Alderweireld had agreed terms with Tottenham. Sneaky business
I think one his biggest contribution for us so far is in defending set pieces. With Big Mak, Bauer and Pope I haven't felt the normal nerves when the opposition gets a corner. Especially against QPR, he's made quite a few headed clearances from corners.
I think one his biggest contribution for us so far is in defending set pieces. With Big Mak, Bauer and Pope I haven't felt the normal nerves when the opposition gets a corner. Especially against QPR, he's made quite a few headed clearances from corners.
This is something Bartlett was fantastic at as well. It really does help when defending set pieces if one of your strikers can help the centre backs out.
Mak will be amongst the goals very soon and people will soon be wondering why they ever doubted him - starting tomorrow.
Thing is, even if he doesn't score more than maybe 10 or so goals he will be the cause of far more. Either by bludgeoning defenders out of the way, keeping them occupied and being a general nuisance at set plays or more directly by nodding down a few headers and holding up the ball and laying it off. He had a crucial part to play in both goals against QPR and the one up at Derby, but because he didn't score them himself a few morons have written him off already.
Interesting. Could you name the 'morons' please as I can't, despite reading all the comments on this SM dedicated thread, name a 'few morons' who have 'written him off'. I can however name quite a few accusing these mythical others of having done so!
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I was impressed by Makienok. Made a significant contribution in that 2-0 win
I just hope he is allowed to settle into the English game and given the time and encouragement to improve, as he looks like he'll be a real asset. Unfortunately I foresee plenty of moaners getting on his back easily, who are of the opinion that he should be winning every single header, he should be scoring with his head every time a cross is played into the box, and should never be pushed/hustled off the ball, all because he is tall!
Thursday, 13 August 2015 By Richard Cawley
Simon Makienok jumps with QPR's Clint Hill on Saturday
Simon Makienok jumps with QPR's Clint Hill on Saturday
SIMON Makienok reckons that his belated move to England can be a huge success.
The striker has labelled his move to Palermo last August a “disaster” - and is determined that his season-long loan with Charlton gets his career back on track.
Makienok, 24, was a hot property with his scoring record at HB Koge and then Brondby during six prolific seasons in his native Denmark.
And the 6ft 7ins frontman looked to be taking a giant step forward when he joined Serie A Palermo a year ago.
But newly-appointed director of football Franco Ceravolo was ditched after the Rosanero made a poor start - being replaced by Giuseppe Iachini, who guided them to 11th in the table.
Makienok proved to be collateral damage.
“Disaster - total disaster,” is his response when asked about his 12 months in Italy.
“The sports director who got me to the club - and really wanted me there - got fired after two months.
“Then the coach said ‘no, I don’t want this player’. I was excluded from the team.
“I couldn’t get the chance to show what I could do.
“They kept coming up with these excuses - I wasn’t ready, I wasn’t fit or I was injured. But the thing is, I was never given a chance.
“I still trained with the first team - because they didn’t really have a second team or a younger squad - but I trained one or two times a week.
“The other days, after games, were very tactical-based. I was on my own with some physical trainers, just running.
“It was quite a hard time for me. I’m happy to be away from there.
“It’s why I wanted to get away from there as fast as I could. I couldn’t do it in the previous transfer window, because I’d already played for Palermo and Brondby. I had to wait for the summer.
“That’s also why my motivation and ambition now is very big.
“Of course I want to show what I can do at Charlton - but I also want to show it was a mistake not giving me a chance at Palermo.
“I’m very motivated to come here to Charlton, give everything I can and hopefully score lots of goals.”
Makienok has been linked with a switch to England before - including Crystal Palace.
The Eagles had a bid rejected by Brondby in the summer transfer window after Ian Holloway’s side won promotion to the Premier League.
Makienok said: “I was aware [of the interest]. And there were other teams. But they couldn’t pay the fee.
“My ambition has always been to come to England. My agents always worked hard for me to get here. But my old team wouldn’t sell me for the amount that the English clubs could pay for me.
“I had to go to a team that would. There were also some Russian teams that could pay the price. That’s why I chose Palermo. And before I went there I really thought it would be the right decision. I was wrong.”
But now comes that chance for Makienok to show if his preferred country will get the best out of him.
Everywhere he has played in Denmark he has managed a scoring record of one goal just over every two league games.
Makienok had three goals in five Superligaen matches before his big-money transfer to Palermo.
But after that he managed just 56 minutes of top-flight Italian football.
“I think I will fit best in England if you look at my height and strength,” said Makienok.
“When this chance with Charlton came it was so easy for me because everything about English football - the mentality, the language and London - has been the perfect thing for me and my family.
“I can’t wait to start the season because I’ve always loved the English game.
“Most of the time when you have a player that has not played for a year he has to go down the levels a little bit to come back up again. But when I heard about Charlton I thought I could stay on the same road, or even be a step up, if I play here.
“When I talked to the manager and the guy who owns the club then I had only positive thoughts.”
Makienok has taken over the number nine shirt for Charlton, which was filled by Chris Eagles for the closing months of the 2014-15 campaign.
It suggests that the Addicks see the heavily-tattooed striker as their main man.
One ink across his chest proclaims ‘never a failure - always a lesson’. And a tattoo of a lion covers his entire back. It looks as if the hardship in Palermo could have added an extra layer of hunger for Makienok.
“I don’t see any guarantees,” said Makienok. “I have to come here, get back in shape and match fitness. That’s all I’m thinking about - giving 100 per cent in every session to get back to the level I was when I was at my peak. Hopefully I can get there pretty soon. I want to push it to get even better.
“I’ve always seen myself as a number nine player. At my old club Brondby I was the number nine, which means you should score most goals. That’s what I like.
“I’m very honoured to play in this shirt. Hopefully I can live up to these expectations.”
By the nature of his game he's probably going to be getting the rough house treatment just as much as he dishes it out and if that was me (in reality I am a foot shorter and let's just say chunky, that sounds respectable) I'd want my colleagues to be supportive and appreciative of being the one who has to take the lumps... and if you have a sense of humour that's certainly going to help.
Just thinking Andre Gray at £9m is, obviously, ridiculous but how much can we trust Palermo to honour the agreement to sell him to us for £2m if he starts scoring a few goals and others come sniffing around.
might get some of the people bashing him already (after 3 games!!!) off his back.
he's shown more than enough quality for me to warrant his place in the side (even without the goals)
I too like the things he has said and he does seem to be a character which is invaluable these days.
I hope he gets off the mark this weekend as I don't want some of the fans to bring him down - that said he doesn't strike me as someone who pays much attention to general opinion and he is his own man.
i think he will come good for goals, sooner the better for his own confidence, but i think he will get between 10-13 for the season.
not.
If Southampton had said at the end of the season that they wanted to take the option of signing the player he would be a Southampton player now. They left it too long, leaving both Alderweireld and Athletico in limbo.
I hope that if SM is a success we can announce him as our first signing of summer 2016 and not give Palermo any excuse to not allow the transfer to go through
Mak will be amongst the goals very soon and people will soon be wondering why they ever doubted him - starting tomorrow.