sacking a manager before a quarter final of a major competition, then 24 hours later hiring your mate with relatively no managerial experience to replace him, if i was in the playing staff i would've thought "fuck this". Jacko i'm led to believe made sure riga felt settled as quickly as possible and made sure he and the rest of the senior players led the team to stay together to keep the club up.
sacking a manager before a quarter final of a major competition, then 24 hours later hiring your mate with relatively no managerial experience to replace him, if i was in the playing staff i would've thought "fuck this". Jacko i'm led to believe made sure riga felt settled as quickly as possible and made sure he and the rest of the senior players led the team to stay together to keep the club up.
Think you are doing a massive disservice to Riga here.
Jacko still has a big role to play for the club, not least as one of the very few genuinely experienced players we have - unless I'm forgetting someone, isn't it just him and Diarra left that are north of 30 now?
He will likely have to settle for more of a bit part role, initially at least, but Jacko has been written off before only to go on and confound his critics and he is still an excellent pro and of tough enough character that there might prove to be life left in the old dog yet.
That said, the scenario put forward by Colin is not that far fetched. If he has been restricted to a handful of appearances by Christmas he may feel he wants to move on and play football. I'm sure it would be a wretch for him as I think he found a good home for himself here but given he is probably one of our best ever captains, taking into account his on field and off field actions, the club would be hard pressed to justify standing in his way and he still has plenty to offer the right club so I'm sure he could find a new team without too much trouble.
Exactly - but some want to disagree with Colin because he is Colin. Seriously - if Colin said our pitch was green, a few on here would vigorously claim it is purple.
Exactly - but some want to disagree with Colin because he is Colin. Seriously - if Colin said our pitch was green, a few on here would vigorously claim it is purple.
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackson isn't seen as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackdon isn't as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
Jackson will and should always be a hero to most. I just don't think he's good enough to be a regular starter any more
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackdon isn't as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
It is perfectly possible to appreciate Jacko for what he has done in the past and think very well of him - but still feel he shouldn't be in the team anymore.
It's definitely a rumour that Powell was sacked before the QTR final, as I am sure I saw him there maybe RD is the devil incarnate and it was all an illusion
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackdon isn't as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
It is perfectly possible to appreciate Jacko for what he has done in the past and think very well of him - but still feel he shouldn't be in the team anymore.
Of course; but why the arseholes who seem to dig him out at every opportunity? Seriously, you dont have to have been a cafc fan for long to know he's a cut above.
Yeah well I chucked a rumour up about Brad Jones that got zero response so, if you can't beat em.... Plus there's some proper numpties spouting rubbish about Jackson that (IMO) should be questioned.
Yeah well I chucked a rumour up about Brad Jones that got zero response so, if you can't beat em.... Plus there's some proper numpties spouting rubbish about Jackson that (IMO) should be questioned.
I'll help you out valley11.. Highly rated keeper, I would think he'd challenge Henderson for the #1 jersey. Not too sure what happened, as in falling out of favour at Liverpool but when he was on his game he is a great keeper. Young enough for resale down the track, ticks a lot of boxes for us I'd say.
Yeah well I chucked a rumour up about Brad Jones that got zero response so, if you can't beat em.... Plus there's some proper numpties spouting rubbish about Jackson that (IMO) should be questioned.
I'll help you out valley11.. Highly rated keeper, I would think he'd challenge Henderson for the #1 jersey. Not too sure what happened, as in falling out of favour at Liverpool but when he was on his game he is a great keeper. Young enough for resale down the track, ticks a lot of boxes for us I'd say.
All true mate. But it won't happen. Because there's no way he will take the pay cut necessary for us to give him a deal.
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackson isn't seen as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
At which bit from the point I suggested I think JJ will go out on loan to here do you think there has been 'JJ weirdness'
My original point was that I think his desire to play and this possibly being one of his last seasons, might want to see him get as much game time as possible, which might have to be elsewhere. I agree with your stance that you put him in the same bracket as Robbo, Kiely and Kinsella based on everything he's done. Someone also made a very good point earlier about the lack of cover we have in those spaces at CM.
My rationale was that if we have a good central midfielder like Cousins starting out on the left again as he did against QPR, with Kashi looking as good as he did and Ba being a new addition, plus the fact JJ didn't even come on as sub on Saturday, could mean he won't play much.
Which then led me to think would the player himself want to sit on the bench given the stage he's at in his career? He may get game time here, I just don't think he will.
We saw Morro go last season, he was a first team regular and we lacked cover in those areas. JJ might be perceived as different given his longer history and that he is the club captain, but then again he might not.
Do I want him to go, no. I think he'd be instrumental in helping the wider team from his role as sub, both on and off the pitch.
Off the back of my comment Colin mentioned he'll go on a free in Jan which again isn't an unreasonable comment to make, we just don't know.
The reason I put this comment here rather than a separate thread was that I was at work, the thought popped into my head, didn't have time/couldn't be bothered to search for the 'come in no4 your time is up thread'. Thought I would chuck it in here.
Also I genuinely don't see why a differing opinion of how long JJ may have left here be emphasised with his goals to games ratio and a reference to knuckle draggers. Not necessary. These are just people's opinions. They may be right, they may be wrong. You don't agree with it and that's fine. Thinking JJ might/should/could move on doesn't make someone a knuckle dragger
"Sam, your sacked mate, but if you could just finish off the project due in on Friday, there's a good lad"
Av a laugh
He was sacked after the game ... The reaction of the fans towards him , bottom of the table, our awful performances and style of play the board saw he had lost the fans and acted .... Only a shame that the previous owners did not have the balls to do and left it to RD to do who took the flack for making the right decision
I'm just whispering mate but that lil rant above is the reason people laugh at you
"Sam, your sacked mate, but if you could just finish off the project due in on Friday, there's a good lad"
Av a laugh
He was sacked after the game ... The reaction of the fans towards him , bottom of the table, our awful performances and style of play the board saw he had lost the fans and acted .... Only a shame that the previous owners did not have the balls to do and left it to RD to do who took the flack for making the right decision
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He will likely have to settle for more of a bit part role, initially at least, but Jacko has been written off before only to go on and confound his critics and he is still an excellent pro and of tough enough character that there might prove to be life left in the old dog yet.
That said, the scenario put forward by Colin is not that far fetched. If he has been restricted to a handful of appearances by Christmas he may feel he wants to move on and play football. I'm sure it would be a wretch for him as I think he found a good home for himself here but given he is probably one of our best ever captains, taking into account his on field and off field actions, the club would be hard pressed to justify standing in his way and he still has plenty to offer the right club so I'm sure he could find a new team without too much trouble.
"Sam, your sacked mate, but if you could just finish off the project due in on Friday, there's a good lad"
Av a laugh
There's some proper plumbs on here.
I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackson isn't seen as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade.
A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans.
To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
New thread?
Arghhhhhhhhhh run run run
Plus there's some proper numpties spouting rubbish about Jackson that (IMO) should be questioned.
Turnstile operator? Then he'll have had the reverse career path of Robert Lee.
Surely with the wonderful new system we no longer need Turnstile operators?
Highly rated keeper, I would think he'd challenge Henderson for the #1 jersey. Not too sure what happened, as in falling out of favour at Liverpool but when he was on his game he is a great keeper. Young enough for resale down the track, ticks a lot of boxes for us I'd say.
My original point was that I think his desire to play and this possibly being one of his last seasons, might want to see him get as much game time as possible, which might have to be elsewhere. I agree with your stance that you put him in the same bracket as Robbo, Kiely and Kinsella based on everything he's done. Someone also made a very good point earlier about the lack of cover we have in those spaces at CM.
My rationale was that if we have a good central midfielder like Cousins starting out on the left again as he did against QPR, with Kashi looking as good as he did and Ba being a new addition, plus the fact JJ didn't even come on as sub on Saturday, could mean he won't play much.
Which then led me to think would the player himself want to sit on the bench given the stage he's at in his career? He may get game time here, I just don't think he will.
We saw Morro go last season, he was a first team regular and we lacked cover in those areas. JJ might be perceived as different given his longer history and that he is the club captain, but then again he might not.
Do I want him to go, no. I think he'd be instrumental in helping the wider team from his role as sub, both on and off the pitch.
Off the back of my comment Colin mentioned he'll go on a free in Jan which again isn't an unreasonable comment to make, we just don't know.
The reason I put this comment here rather than a separate thread was that I was at work, the thought popped into my head, didn't have time/couldn't be bothered to search for the 'come in no4 your time is up thread'. Thought I would chuck it in here.
Also I genuinely don't see why a differing opinion of how long JJ may have left here be emphasised with his goals to games ratio and a reference to knuckle draggers. Not necessary. These are just people's opinions. They may be right, they may be wrong. You don't agree with it and that's fine. Thinking JJ might/should/could move on doesn't make someone a knuckle dragger
I'm just whispering mate but that lil rant above is the reason people laugh at you
sorry, but that is total bullshit