Kashi's efforts and enthusiasm will see him pick up suspensions, if Jackson goes who would take that spot on the bench cos even if Ceballos is ahead of him too, thats still a spot we're missing.
We may have players who are good enough for the Squad yet cant make the bench but isnt that what we want, isnt that where our weakness has been these last few years?
He has the talent, even had a purple patch in the prem with Newcastle a few seasons back. Just rarely seems arsed to put himself about, which is a shame as that's his real strength.
I'm not disagreeing with anything anyone has said above re: Jacko. I just think he'll want to get game time and ask for a loan. I'm not saying we won't miss him, not saying he can't add to our game both on and off the pitch, just wouldn't be surprised if his desire to play and make the most of his last few seasons were a priority for him
In my opinion jacko won't leave the club unless dragged kicking and screaming! You need four CMs over the course of a season.. Ceballos is seen more as a winger type probably as back up to JBG so I wouldn't count him. Diarra looks set to be playing CB for most if not all the season so I wouldn't count him.
That leaves Cousins/Ba as box to box options and Kashi/Jacko as holding options.
If Kashi gets injured he will come in and do a good job for us no doubt!
Luzon likes to rotate so don't kid yourself he won't get any game time!!!
Last year we had Cousins Buyers Jacko and Coq as CMs. When the Coq got recalled we were suddenly very short on CMs...
Jacko will not be leaving and he still has a role toat as a squad player. Rotation/cover at the very least!
All of this is without his off the field influence in the Andy Hughes role.
AA is a 10 not a CM so comparisons with Jacko are pointless, AA was one of the most technically gifted players we have had in the last 10 seasons and I would not mind him back
Most technically gifted! You have to be joking.
Who would you say has been more technically gifted in the last ten years? Genuinely interested, your shock seems to imply you can think of loads and loads. There's Andy Reid, Jerome Thomas if you're feeling generous and Darren Ambrose if you're feeling like a debate but other than that I'm struggling
Not forgetting a certain JBG. Still, I agree, Astrit was one of our more technically gifted players.
sacking a manager before a quarter final of a major competition, then 24 hours later hiring your mate with relatively no managerial experience to replace him, if i was in the playing staff i would've thought "fuck this". Jacko i'm led to believe made sure riga felt settled as quickly as possible and made sure he and the rest of the senior players led the team to stay together to keep the club up.
sacking a manager before a quarter final of a major competition, then 24 hours later hiring your mate with relatively no managerial experience to replace him, if i was in the playing staff i would've thought "fuck this". Jacko i'm led to believe made sure riga felt settled as quickly as possible and made sure he and the rest of the senior players led the team to stay together to keep the club up.
Think you are doing a massive disservice to Riga here.
Jacko still has a big role to play for the club, not least as one of the very few genuinely experienced players we have - unless I'm forgetting someone, isn't it just him and Diarra left that are north of 30 now?
He will likely have to settle for more of a bit part role, initially at least, but Jacko has been written off before only to go on and confound his critics and he is still an excellent pro and of tough enough character that there might prove to be life left in the old dog yet.
That said, the scenario put forward by Colin is not that far fetched. If he has been restricted to a handful of appearances by Christmas he may feel he wants to move on and play football. I'm sure it would be a wretch for him as I think he found a good home for himself here but given he is probably one of our best ever captains, taking into account his on field and off field actions, the club would be hard pressed to justify standing in his way and he still has plenty to offer the right club so I'm sure he could find a new team without too much trouble.
Exactly - but some want to disagree with Colin because he is Colin. Seriously - if Colin said our pitch was green, a few on here would vigorously claim it is purple.
Exactly - but some want to disagree with Colin because he is Colin. Seriously - if Colin said our pitch was green, a few on here would vigorously claim it is purple.
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackson isn't seen as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackdon isn't as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
Jackson will and should always be a hero to most. I just don't think he's good enough to be a regular starter any more
Having seen the Jackson weirdness for a few seasons, I thought it time to speak up. There's some proper plumbs on here. I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackdon isn't as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade. A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans. To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
It is perfectly possible to appreciate Jacko for what he has done in the past and think very well of him - but still feel he shouldn't be in the team anymore.
It's definitely a rumour that Powell was sacked before the QTR final, as I am sure I saw him there maybe RD is the devil incarnate and it was all an illusion
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We may have players who are good enough for the Squad yet cant make the bench but isnt that what we want, isnt that where our weakness has been these last few years?
That leaves Cousins/Ba as box to box options and Kashi/Jacko as holding options.
If Kashi gets injured he will come in and do a good job for us no doubt!
Luzon likes to rotate so don't kid yourself he won't get any game time!!!
Last year we had Cousins Buyers Jacko and Coq as CMs. When the Coq got recalled we were suddenly very short on CMs...
Jacko will not be leaving and he still has a role toat as a squad player. Rotation/cover at the very least!
All of this is without his off the field influence in the Andy Hughes role.
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He will likely have to settle for more of a bit part role, initially at least, but Jacko has been written off before only to go on and confound his critics and he is still an excellent pro and of tough enough character that there might prove to be life left in the old dog yet.
That said, the scenario put forward by Colin is not that far fetched. If he has been restricted to a handful of appearances by Christmas he may feel he wants to move on and play football. I'm sure it would be a wretch for him as I think he found a good home for himself here but given he is probably one of our best ever captains, taking into account his on field and off field actions, the club would be hard pressed to justify standing in his way and he still has plenty to offer the right club so I'm sure he could find a new team without too much trouble.
"Sam, your sacked mate, but if you could just finish off the project due in on Friday, there's a good lad"
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There's some proper plumbs on here.
I really, honestly, can't understand why Jackson isn't seen as a hero to every Charlton supporter. And that's not just the johnny come lately Premier League brigade.
A guy who scored almost fifty goals in almost 200 games (that's 1 in 4 for a midfielder, for the proper knuckle draggers), who is loved by both the players and management and who respects the fans.
To me he's up there with Kinsella, Robbo and Kiely.
New thread?
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