It's always amazed me how quickly the Home Office do process work permits for sportspersons. If they had to put up with the bureaucratic nightmare they do over here then most of these players would be sitting on their arses for a few months after signing, so I really don't think they would be to blame.
Yes, it's the CAFC management and communication team that are at fault here for a misguided announcement of a misguided appointment..
Well I thought it was funny when I first read it, but the reaction on here is amazing. Lets blame the club... lets blame the Home Office... What an over-reaction.
The real story is, there's an amount of bureaucracy to get through when employing someone from overseas and it's taking a bit longer than anticipated. So what?
I am actually very disappointed that, given all our concerns and interrogation of the process, none of us on here thought about the work permit angle either!
Well I thought it was funny when I first read it, but the reaction on here is amazing. Lets blame the club... lets blame the Home Office... What an over-reaction.
The real story is, there's an amount of bureaucracy to get through when employing someone from overseas and it's taking a bit longer than anticipated. So what?
Exactly. People wetting their knickers over a bit of red tape.
Well I thought it was funny when I first read it, but the reaction on here is amazing. Lets blame the club... lets blame the Home Office... What an over-reaction.
The real story is, there's an amount of bureaucracy to get through when employing someone from overseas and it's taking a bit longer than anticipated. So what?
Exactly. People wetting their knickers over a bit of red tape.
Yeah this sort of thing happens all the time after clubs announce their head coaches eh??
Just because we appoint our fourth coach in two years after no recognisable interview or selection process and carefully choose someone with zero experience of English football and a name that sounds like "loser" .
We then find out he cannot legally work in the country, after he has already started work and take a PR photo of him in front of a scoreboard with a home defeat still showing in it.
Any boring idiot from Belgium with a live video feed of the rest of humanity can make simple mistakes.
You moaners clearly have deeply embedded psychological drama-queen issues that need sorting fast.
I am actually very disappointed that, given all our concerns and interrogation of the process, none of us on here thought about the work permit angle either!
To be fair it was mentioned (on the main thread I think) a couple of days ago, I just don't think any of us thought we could be that incompetent to announce a manager who isn't legally entitled to manage us !
This is really embarrassing... I've realised in the past few weeks that we've gone backwards rather than forwards as a club in some respects since RD took over.
It's always amazed me how quickly the Home Office do process work permits for sportspersons. If they had to put up with the bureaucratic nightmare they do over here then most of these players would be sitting on their arses for a few months after signing, so I really don't think they would be to blame.
Yes, it's the CAFC management and communication team that are at fault here for a misguided announcement of a misguided appointment..
I don't know about Thailand but my new visa it going to take about four months, the PSB not working for 5 days either side of the 10 day New Years holiday doesn't help either.
Well I thought it was funny when I first read it, but the reaction on here is amazing. Lets blame the club... lets blame the Home Office... What an over-reaction.
The real story is, there's an amount of bureaucracy to get through when employing someone from overseas and it's taking a bit longer than anticipated. So what?
This Unbelievable reaction, happens with players all the time. Bandwagon,sheep spring too mind!
Right a few minor points that have just popped into my usually inactive brain.
RD inherited Powell and simply gave him Liege cast offs and an untried Polish striker, big Bob he chose. So he let him bring in Igor and JBG, players that all will admit have been decent (oh slightly better than the rest if you are a real pessimist).
So RD obviously really likes Luzon, so hopefully he will allow him to get in some more quality to halt our slide.
What worries me is if he doesn't get a work permit and we are forced to appoint a British coach (probably more qualified), will RD sulk and do nothing? I doubt it but he is stubborn.
Well I thought it was funny when I first read it, but the reaction on here is amazing. Lets blame the club... lets blame the Home Office... What an over-reaction.
The real story is, there's an amount of bureaucracy to get through when employing someone from overseas and it's taking a bit longer than anticipated. So what?
But that isn't what the club have said. The sentence they used is that there are "issues with his UK work permit", that doesn't sound like the normal bureaucratic, red tape type stuff. Either way I don't think you can blame people for being a little surprised that we've offered someone a job who legally isn't entitled to work in this country.
Callumcafc said: Matt Wright @mattjobob 1h1 hour ago People talk about 4 managers in 12 months, but 3 HR managers in 2 years can hardly help either. Especially when you need a work permit #cafc
Jimmy Stone @JimmyStone_ 5m5 minutes ago Considering he's been twisting Roland's arm over the #cafc job for weeks I'm amazed Luzon's work permit hasn't been sorted yet #cafc
Jimmy Stone @JimmyStone_ 3m3 minutes ago On the other hand at least two respected #cafc men are in charge tomorrow. Wish Ben, Damo and the lads all the best.
Very very telling. Especially from jimmy, who always sounds like an honest guy (strange you can get that just from a guys voice). Luzon sounds like a prick if that's true.
Indeed they are...... or are they disgruntled ex employees?. Having dealt with both of these people I would have to say that I only thought they were loyal to the club , and there fellow colleagues. Matt worked very long hours, I appreciated there help and assistance which was always very professionally executed.
Even if the Home Office have not sorted the work permit out should Guy Luzon have started work without a permit?
That's a good point, if average joe was found to be working in this country without the correct visa they would be deported and more than likely struggle to re gain entry.
Am hearing words like "embarrassing" because the Home Office have not sorted his work permit out.... Charlton have done their bit last week , problem is we are Charlton , can you imagine Man U , Chelsea having to wait for their manager to get clearance no......once again if your not in the perm then no one wants to know
Your right col but sod that, I don't want no keegan perm
Even if the Home Office have not sorted the work permit out should Guy Luzon have started work without a permit?
That's a good point, if average joe was found to be working in this country without the correct visa they would be deported and more than likely struggle to re gain entry.
...coming over here, nicking our Belgian managers jobs. Wot a liberty..!
Well, that's news - I didn't know that Israelis needed work permits - I thought they just invaded, occupied the land, bulldozed what was already there and built a settlement on it...... (Has anyone checked out The Valley recently to see if it's got any of these on it?)
Even if the Home Office have not sorted the work permit out should Guy Luzon have started work without a permit?
Don't think so. Shall we start a campaign to get him deported?
Judging by the Boarder Force fly on the wall series the club get fined for employing an illegal, and the worker has to start the application process again, where past behaviour influences whether a work permit is eventually granted.
Am hearing words like "embarrassing" because the Home Office have not sorted his work permit out.... Charlton have done their bit last week , problem is we are Charlton , can you imagine Man U , Chelsea having to wait for their manager to get clearance no......once again if your not in the perm then no one wants to know
I imagine Utd and Chelsea have got the staff expertise to avoid cock-ups like this.
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Yes, it's the CAFC management and communication team that are at fault here for a misguided announcement of a misguided appointment..
The real story is, there's an amount of bureaucracy to get through when employing someone from overseas and it's taking a bit longer than anticipated. So what?
Yeah,,what is the big deal?
Just because we appoint our fourth coach in two years after no recognisable interview or selection process and carefully choose someone with zero experience of English football and a name that sounds like "loser" .
We then find out he cannot legally work in the country, after he has already started work and take a PR photo of him in front of a scoreboard with a home defeat still showing in it.
Any boring idiot from Belgium with a live video feed of the rest of humanity can make simple mistakes.
You moaners clearly have deeply embedded psychological drama-queen issues that need sorting fast.
Maybe Luzon can do what I did and marry a local
Unbelievable reaction, happens with players all the time.
Bandwagon,sheep spring too mind!
RD inherited Powell and simply gave him Liege cast offs and an untried Polish striker, big Bob he chose. So he let him bring in Igor and JBG, players that all will admit have been decent (oh slightly better than the rest if you are a real pessimist).
So RD obviously really likes Luzon, so hopefully he will allow him to get in some more quality to halt our slide.
What worries me is if he doesn't get a work permit and we are forced to appoint a British coach (probably more qualified), will RD sulk and do nothing? I doubt it but he is stubborn.
Matt Wright @mattjobob 1h1 hour ago
People talk about 4 managers in 12 months, but 3 HR managers in 2 years can hardly help either. Especially when you need a work permit #cafc
Jimmy Stone @JimmyStone_ 5m5 minutes ago
Considering he's been twisting Roland's arm over the #cafc job for weeks I'm amazed Luzon's work permit hasn't been sorted yet #cafc
Jimmy Stone @JimmyStone_ 3m3 minutes ago
On the other hand at least two respected #cafc men are in charge tomorrow. Wish Ben, Damo and the lads all the best.
Very very telling. Especially from jimmy, who always sounds like an honest guy (strange you can get that just from a guys voice). Luzon sounds like a prick if that's true.
Indeed they are...... or are they disgruntled ex employees?.
Having dealt with both of these people I would have to say that I only thought they were loyal to the club , and there fellow colleagues.
Matt worked very long hours, I appreciated there help and assistance which was always very professionally executed.