No idea if Luzon will be good or not, as i like nearly everyone else had never heard of Riga either, so i will give him a chance, my issue if he does get it, is that our owner has clearly not considered all the options to find the best manager/head coach for us as a club, he is just appointing who he currently favours and already on the company payroll.
Yet how can he favour him when he sacked him?! It's all/ only about the money...
I think it's a little bit more complicated than that @Weegie Addick 1) Luzon took Liege to top slot in the Jupiler League 2) not many wins and too many draws in their play-offs meant they finished second and missed out on champions league 3) M.Duchatelet sold four or five players for €25m 4) the fans went nuts when the new squad didn't deliver this season so Luzon takes a fall. Now Bulot, Ben Haim and Buyens played over 70 games between them for this guy last season so they will know how he works and I'd expect them to shout from the roof tops if Luzon is a problem. I've no idea of the ups and downs of Liege's season last year but they did win through the group stages of the Europa cup to be knocked out eventually by Hannover 96. So no comment on whether Luzon is good for us but he did play Hannover, Anderlect and Bruges four times each last season and I would place all of those clubs significantly bigger than us.
Unfortunately I don't live in a world of 'what ifs'. This means I am unable to answer your question at this time. I make my decisions based on real events rather than some fantasy that might exist the distant future.
I just want to be clear, I'm not upset about Luzon himself, it's more about the whole decision making process within the Club, and the very obvious fact, that the only person who gets a say on what goes on within the Club is a Belgian with no interest in football and no idea about our Club in particular.
I would have had more respect if Meire had come out and said 'we will appoint whoever the owner decides to appoint next'. Clearly that is the truth of the matter.
Unfortunately I don't live in a world of 'what ifs'. This means I am unable to answer your question at this time. I make my decisions based on real events rather than some fantasy that might exist the distant future.
But your rant was regarding a situation that hasn't yet happened and might even not !!!!!
I might have missed his input elsewhere, but has @Belgian_Spur got anything to say about Luzon, or any of the other posters based in Belgium?
Luzon wasn't sacked in Liège 'cause of results. It was just SL supporters (a mob of childish communists of Italian descent) who were not pleased they were not on top of the Jupiler League. RD didn't want to sack him, but had to. He now is in the process of selling SL.
Unfortunately I don't live in a world of 'what ifs'. This means I am unable to answer your question at this time. I make my decisions based on real events rather than some fantasy that might exist the distant future.
But your rant was regarding a situation that hasn't yet happened and might even not !!!!!
Over to you !
Luzon is our new manager, I think we all know that. I think we all knew that the second Peeters was axed.
I might have missed his input elsewhere, but has @Belgian_Spur got anything to say about Luzon, or any of the other posters based in Belgium?
Luzon wasn't sacked in Liège 'cause of results. It was just SL supporters (a mob of childish communists of Italian descent) who were not pleased they were not on top of the Jupiler League. RD didn't want to sack him, but had to. He now is in the process of selling SL.
If thats the case then i'm certainly willing to give Luzon a chance at least. The expectancy at SL far outweighs it here at Charlton. lets just wait to see what he can do with the squad, he might bring a bit of fighting spirit and belief back to our group of players thats been missing the last few months.
The whole 'im done with Charlton if Luzon gets it' is a bit strange when we know as much about him as we did about Riga.
Unfortunately I don't live in a world of 'what ifs'. This means I am unable to answer your question at this time. I make my decisions based on real events rather than some fantasy that might exist the distant future.
But your rant was regarding a situation that hasn't yet happened and might even not !!!!!
Over to you !
Luzon is our new manager, I think we all know that.
Unfortunately I don't live in a world of 'what ifs'. This means I am unable to answer your question at this time. I make my decisions based on real events rather than some fantasy that might exist the distant future.
But your rant was regarding a situation that hasn't yet happened and might even not !!!!!
Over to you !
Luzon is our new manager, I think we all know that.
But you don't live in a world of ifs and buts ?
It's not an if or a but. Luzon is our manager and the Club will announce it soon. I consider that a fact.
I do not give a hoot about how delicious is his wife, or what he did in sunny Belgium or elsewhere .. I do not want this chancer as manager of C A F C .. I want a British manager, a good one
I might have missed his input elsewhere, but has @Belgian_Spur got anything to say about Luzon, or any of the other posters based in Belgium?
Luzon wasn't sacked in Liège 'cause of results. It was just SL supporters (a mob of childish communists of Italian descent) who were not pleased they were not on top of the Jupiler League. RD didn't want to sack him, but had to. He now is in the process of selling SL.
They were someway down from top of the league though weren't they? Nowhere near it.
I might have missed his input elsewhere, but has @Belgian_Spur got anything to say about Luzon, or any of the other posters based in Belgium?
Luzon wasn't sacked in Liège 'cause of results. It was just SL supporters (a mob of childish communists of Italian descent) who were not pleased they were not on top of the Jupiler League. RD didn't want to sack him, but had to. He now is in the process of selling SL.
If thats the case then i'm certainly willing to give Luzon a chance at least. The expectancy at SL far outweighs it here at Charlton. lets just wait to see what he can do with the squad, he might bring a bit of fighting spirit and belief back to our group of players thats been missing the last few months.
The whole 'im done with Charlton if Luzon gets it' is a bit strange when we know as much about him as we did about Riga.
Exactly the same for me. Whoever we get in I will give my support too. Thanks @skywalker - The problem I think we have is that some people will view him as a yes man for RD. Any network appointment will be viewed this way.
I do not give a hoot about how delicious is his wife, or what he did in sunny Belgium or elsewhere .. I do not want this chancer as manager of C A F C .. I want a British manager, a good one
To me, it's not about Luzon. It's the whole decision making process and the complete bullshit that the Club are feeding us that I can't take.
Will be interesting to see how many of Dudu Dahan's clients end up here, they are all listed above. We already have Ben Haim and we had Thuram - I wonder how much Thuram-gate did for both Riga and Powell by the way. I wonder how much Peeters very public criticism of Ben Haim did for him. Lots of little things that add up.......
Luzon would come here with a blank slate, of course he would - doesn't stop me from taking a dislike to the way he is foisted upon us or what this whole murky network means for us. I don't buy into it one little bit.
I might have missed his input elsewhere, but has @Belgian_Spur got anything to say about Luzon, or any of the other posters based in Belgium?
Luzon wasn't sacked in Liège 'cause of results. It was just SL supporters (a mob of childish communists of Italian descent) who were not pleased they were not on top of the Jupiler League. RD didn't want to sack him, but had to. He now is in the process of selling SL.
They were someway down from top of the league though weren't they? Nowhere near it.
Though Uncle Roly did flog 5 of their best players for €25 million.
I might have missed his input elsewhere, but has @Belgian_Spur got anything to say about Luzon, or any of the other posters based in Belgium?
Luzon wasn't sacked in Liège 'cause of results. It was just SL supporters (a mob of childish communists of Italian descent) who were not pleased they were not on top of the Jupiler League. RD didn't want to sack him, but had to. He now is in the process of selling SL.
They were someway down from top of the league though weren't they? Nowhere near it.
Though Uncle Roly did flog 5 of their best players for €25 million.
Imagine stripping out our 5 best players?
We'd only have Tucadean and Etheridge left.
Funny ... but too close to a possibility for any sort of comfort
If Luzon is appointed, under the ownership of Roland I will not attend another Charlton game and give my season ticket away - call me dramatic, childish what ever but I'm not giving money to a club run by a man who does not know what he's doing giving cast off and lieing to the fans.
My money is to precious to go into a mans pocket who I fell doesn't give a shit about how we feel.
That kills me to say, but Roland is currently killing my love for this club.
I might have missed his input elsewhere, but has @Belgian_Spur got anything to say about Luzon, or any of the other posters based in Belgium?
Luzon wasn't sacked in Liège 'cause of results. It was just SL supporters (a mob of childish communists of Italian descent) who were not pleased they were not on top of the Jupiler League. RD didn't want to sack him, but had to. He now is in the process of selling SL.
They were someway down from top of the league though weren't they? Nowhere near it.
They sold 3 players for over £5m in the summer, which i'd imagine disrupted his squad quite significantly. Like i say, i don't know enough about him or his time in Standard Liege but they finished runners-up with a full season under him.
If Luzon is appointed, under the ownership of Roland I will not attend another Charlton game and give my season ticket away - call me dramatic, childish what ever but I'm not giving money to a club run by a man who does not know what he's doing giving cast off and lieing to the fans.
My money is to precious to go into a mans pocket who I fell doesn't give a shit about how we feel.
That kills me to say, but Roland is currently killing my love for this club.
He's not a cast-off though is he?
RD has kept Luzon on his payroll despite having to force Luzon to step down as head coach at SL due to fan unrest. He must rate him.
If Luzon is appointed, under the ownership of Roland I will not attend another Charlton game and give my season ticket away - call me dramatic, childish what ever but I'm not giving money to a club run by a man who does not know what he's doing giving cast off and lieing to the fans.
My money is to precious to go into a mans pocket who I fell doesn't give a shit about how we feel.
That kills me to say, but Roland is currently killing my love for this club.
Please make sure you give your season ticket away! and not just throw it away. Or private message me i know a few who would take it off your hands for nothing
Its not about how talented Luzon is though is it, its about the fact RD does not seem to be considering all the options to work out what is best for us as a club, rather bringing in whoever he thinks is half decent already on the payroll.
If Luzon is hired, will we get told why he got the job over other interested potential managers/head coaches?
Hightly doubt it as we never got told why Riga was deemed unfit to take us forward in the summer.
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1) Luzon took Liege to top slot in the Jupiler League
2) not many wins and too many draws in their play-offs meant they finished second and missed out on champions league
3) M.Duchatelet sold four or five players for €25m
4) the fans went nuts when the new squad didn't deliver this season so Luzon takes a fall.
Now Bulot, Ben Haim and Buyens played over 70 games between them for this guy last season so they will know how he works and I'd expect them to shout from the roof tops if Luzon is a problem.
I've no idea of the ups and downs of Liege's season last year but they did win through the group stages of the Europa cup to be knocked out eventually by Hannover 96.
So no comment on whether Luzon is good for us but he did play Hannover, Anderlect and Bruges four times each last season and I would place all of those clubs significantly bigger than us.
I just want to be clear, I'm not upset about Luzon himself, it's more about the whole decision making process within the Club, and the very obvious fact, that the only person who gets a say on what goes on within the Club is a Belgian with no interest in football and no idea about our Club in particular.
I would have had more respect if Meire had come out and said 'we will appoint whoever the owner decides to appoint next'. Clearly that is the truth of the matter.
Over to you !
http://www.jpost.com/Sports/In-true-super-agent-style-Dahan-deftly-deflects-criticism-316221
The whole 'im done with Charlton if Luzon gets it' is a bit strange when we know as much about him as we did about Riga.
I don't have an opinion on Luzon either way.
Will be interesting to see how many of Dudu Dahan's clients end up here, they are all listed above. We already have Ben Haim and we had Thuram - I wonder how much Thuram-gate did for both Riga and Powell by the way. I wonder how much Peeters very public criticism of Ben Haim did for him. Lots of little things that add up.......
Luzon would come here with a blank slate, of course he would - doesn't stop me from taking a dislike to the way he is foisted upon us or what this whole murky network means for us. I don't buy into it one little bit.
Imagine stripping out our 5 best players?
We'd only have Tucadean and Etheridge left.
Na justfelt like putting it for the fun of it. #banter
My money is to precious to go into a mans pocket who I fell doesn't give a shit about how we feel.
That kills me to say, but Roland is currently killing my love for this club.
RD has kept Luzon on his payroll despite having to force Luzon to step down as head coach at SL due to fan unrest. He must rate him.
Or private message me i know a few who would take it off your hands for nothing
If Luzon is hired, will we get told why he got the job over other interested potential managers/head coaches?
Hightly doubt it as we never got told why Riga was deemed unfit to take us forward in the summer.
Hahahhaha what have I become