I notice from the write up there was no answer to the question regarding Luzon's wife following CAFC on twitter weeks before he was appointed? Or have i just missed it?
Richard Murray said this wasn't true.
KM muttered under her breath that Luzon's wife did not have a twitter account.
Well the fake account seems to have a lot of access to photos of Mrs. Luzon:
That would have to be some boring and ridiculously hard to pull off 'prank' if that account was fake.. all the pictures etc. all to follow Charlton before Bob Peeters was sacked and GL was fired. KM jumping the gun and rudely muttering that it's fake under her breathe, a guess at best because she so dearly wants what she tells us to be true..
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
I would say the difference is that RD micro-manages.
Agree. An the interesting question is, does he micromanage his four main businesses which have done so well, in the same way? Does he fire the sales director of one of them every time a quarterly sales target is missed? I am trying to find out, but I bet he does not. So the question is then why he thinks the management principles fly out of the window when it comes to football. One possible answer, and not a very palatable one, is that he doesn't think of his football venture as business. Not in the sense that he sees it as a way to make big money, and has that burning desire to make big money. Maybe more some kind of hobby where he is proving some point (to an unknown audience, but presumably not football fans). I don't like or accept the Branson analogy at all, but if you must, I suppose football is his Virgin Galactica.
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
Branson doesn't sit on the board of any of the companies within the Virgin group. In fact he has almost nothing to do with most of the businesses that use the brand name - other than to act as an ambassador for them. To a significant extent, he makes his money by licensing the use of the brand. (Or has very significant joint enterprise stakeholders, for example Delta Air Lines owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic. Stagecoach 49% of Virgin Trains, etc, etc.)
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
I would say the difference is that RD micro-manages.
Agree. An the interesting question is, does he micromanage his four main businesses which have done so well, in the same way? Does he fire the sales director of one of them every time a quarterly sales target is missed? I am trying to find out, but I bet he does not. So the question is then why he thinks the management principles fly out of the window when it comes to football. One possible answer, and not a very palatable one, is that he doesn't think of his football venture as business. Not in the sense that he sees it as a way to make big money, and has that burning desire to make big money. Maybe more some kind of hobby where he is proving some point (to an unknown audience, but presumably not football fans). I don't like or accept the Branson analogy at all, but if you must, I suppose football is his Virgin Galactica.
There are many examples of owners successful in business being absolute pratts in football, palace have a prime example, it could well be that RD is the same or he could be a visionary, I suspect regardless if tonight, we shall see in time.
Just watched the video, very flat, a great chance with the meeting tonight for them to get in first yet once again im left feeling that we seem to get answers that only really make sense if you fail to think about it too much, especially Katrien often playing the victim card to deflect from a more detailed answer to a hard question.
The last answer though sadly is the big one, could not be more clear that Roland does not have any plans to talk to the fans of his clubs in an organised way like last night, which is why the meeting tonight is so important, as we dont just have to accept that.
Decided to cheer myself up after by watching the 15 minutes of highlights from the Brentford game, play more like that for the rest of the season and the worry that all the great work CP(and others) did will not be completely undone by us finding ourselves back in League 1.
I notice from the write up there was no answer to the question regarding Luzon's wife following CAFC on twitter weeks before he was appointed? Or have i just missed it?
Richard Murray said this wasn't true.
KM muttered under her breath that Luzon's wife did not have a twitter account.
Well the fake account seems to have a lot of access to photos of Mrs. Luzon:
I notice from the write up there was no answer to the question regarding Luzon's wife following CAFC on twitter weeks before he was appointed? Or have i just missed it?
Richard Murray said this wasn't true.
KM muttered under her breath that Luzon's wife did not have a twitter account.
Well the fake account seems to have a lot of access to photos of Mrs. Luzon:
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
Branson doesn't sit on the board of any of the companies within the Virgin group. In fact he has almost nothing to do with most of the businesses that use the brand name - other than to act as an ambassador for them. To a significant extent, he makes his money by licensing the use of the brand. (Or has very significant joint enterprise stakeholders, for example Delta Air Lines owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic. Stagecoach 49% of Virgin Trains, etc, etc.)
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
I would say the difference is that RD micro-manages.
Agree. An the interesting question is, does he micromanage his four main businesses which have done so well, in the same way? Does he fire the sales director of one of them every time a quarterly sales target is missed? I am trying to find out, but I bet he does not. So the question is then why he thinks the management principles fly out of the window when it comes to football. One possible answer, and not a very palatable one, is that he doesn't think of his football venture as business. Not in the sense that he sees it as a way to make big money, and has that burning desire to make big money. Maybe more some kind of hobby where he is proving some point (to an unknown audience, but presumably not football fans). I don't like or accept the Branson analogy at all, but if you must, I suppose football is his Virgin Galactica.
There are many examples of owners successful in business being absolute pratts in football, palace have a prime example, it could well be that RD is the same or he could be a visionary, I suspect regardless if tonight, we shall see in time.
Do you think Steve Parish is a prat? I think he went through a wobbly phase but has now recovered his nerve and his principles. I hate to say this but there is a lot both the club and indeed us fans could learn from Crystal Palace right now if we could see past our tribal prejudice (and I bow to no one in my tribal prejudice against them :-))
Among the most dangerous people I've met in business are those who think of themselves as visionaries.
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
I would say the difference is that RD micro-manages.
Agree. An the interesting question is, does he micromanage his four main businesses which have done so well, in the same way? Does he fire the sales director of one of them every time a quarterly sales target is missed? I am trying to find out, but I bet he does not. So the question is then why he thinks the management principles fly out of the window when it comes to football. One possible answer, and not a very palatable one, is that he doesn't think of his football venture as business. Not in the sense that he sees it as a way to make big money, and has that burning desire to make big money. Maybe more some kind of hobby where he is proving some point (to an unknown audience, but presumably not football fans). I don't like or accept the Branson analogy at all, but if you must, I suppose football is his Virgin Galactica.
There are many examples of owners successful in business being absolute pratts in football, palace have a prime example, it could well be that RD is the same or he could be a visionary, I suspect regardless if tonight, we shall see in time.
Among the most dangerous people I've met in business are those who think of themselves as visionaries.
Once had a client who worked in specsavers and was also a black belt in karate so I concur with this statement.
Katrien did not say directly or out loud that it is a fake account, so I think it is safe to assume the account is genuine (I don't know about the platform, but others here say it's genuine). Katrien did not overtly mislead over the account because it is a real one. Which leaves us with the reality of Mrs Luzon getting into Charlton athletic prior to Bob Peeters being sacked, and prior to Katriens programme article supporting Bob the day before she sacked him. Maybe the whole thing is a delayed reaction by Mrs Luzon who became fascinated by Charlton Athletic when we got Reza and Astrit and so on, it simply took 11 months to set up the twitter link to Charlton Athletic. Katrien did not say it was a fake account, because it is not a fake account, and Katrien does not lie.
Was going to see a film tonight - "Kingsman: Secret service" or something like that. The wife's arranged it but I'm sorely tempted to stop home and see how much intrigue there is in this one.
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
I would say the difference is that RD micro-manages.
Agree. An the interesting question is, does he micromanage his four main businesses which have done so well, in the same way? Does he fire the sales director of one of them every time a quarterly sales target is missed? I am trying to find out, but I bet he does not. So the question is then why he thinks the management principles fly out of the window when it comes to football. One possible answer, and not a very palatable one, is that he doesn't think of his football venture as business. Not in the sense that he sees it as a way to make big money, and has that burning desire to make big money. Maybe more some kind of hobby where he is proving some point (to an unknown audience, but presumably not football fans). I don't like or accept the Branson analogy at all, but if you must, I suppose football is his Virgin Galactica.
There are many examples of owners successful in business being absolute pratts in football, palace have a prime example, it could well be that RD is the same or he could be a visionary, I suspect regardless if tonight, we shall see in time.
Do you think Steve Parish is a prat? I think he went through a wobbly phase but has now recovered his nerve and his principles. I hate to say this but there is a lot both the club and indeed us fans could learn from Crystal Palace right now if we could see past our tribal prejudice (and I bow to no one in my tribal prejudice against them :-))
Among the most dangerous people I've met in business are those who think of themselves as visionaries.
No I was talking about the guy who brought in Terry Venables and lost all his money on Palace.
Some of you are just programmed to not be happy with anything Katrien says and looking for holes in everything . Avory said rd is and wAntss the club at level 1 academy the other bloke said plans have been submitted. Wait to see them.
KM is damned if she does damned if she doesn't with a lot
I reckon RD could sign Lionel messi and you'd still moan .
Have watched the video through and my take is that a lot of griping is being made about not a lot.
The air-con remark was a throw away point highlighting one of many areas that money will be spent.
I personally think Katrien showed herself in a positive light, she answered all questions asked of her and didn't hide behind anyone/anything to avoid them. She came across honest even when the answer was not what people wanted to hear, for instance her final point that RD will not be at any meetings and communication is through her. To put it in perspective, Richard Branson owns numerous worldwide companies, does he meet with all his customers? does he attend every meeting? or does he appoint people he trusts to act on his behalf with his best interests at heart?
I think its evident that the management structure at the club have made mistakes over the past 12 months, with communication, player recruitment etc. But its a learning curve for them too. They have showed they have invested in the squad, training ground and valley facilities, all off which was due. I personally think this byes them some time to learn from their mistakes.
As for the manager appointment process, I think a lot of people need to get off their high horses. I have never known any business reveal details of rejected interviewees for a position, let alone in the world of football management. As previously stated on here, how would those managers feel, or potentially how would the clubs they may be currently employed with feel. Does anybody know who was interviewed and rejected at QPR, Forest, Norwich, Blackpool or Birmingham this season alone? Certain communication does need to be improved, but an open book has and will never happen, so stop criticising on those grounds.
As for GL not being there, I'm glad, his main job and what he is paid to do is win football matches and I'm sure being at Reading last night would better suit that than being at the Valley.
Anyway that's my thoughts for what its worth.
Biut does Richard Branson monitor everything that goes on in those companies to the extent Roland is portrayed as doing by Katrien. Is he constantly on the phone to his executives every day or does he let them manage? I think the line that Katrien is in charge is the big con here. She's a human shield for her boss.
Branson doesn't sit on the board of any of the companies within the Virgin group. In fact he has almost nothing to do with most of the businesses that use the brand name - other than to act as an ambassador for them. To a significant extent, he makes his money by licensing the use of the brand. (Or has very significant joint enterprise stakeholders, for example Delta Air Lines owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic. Stagecoach 49% of Virgin Trains, etc, etc.)
Some of you are just programmed to not be happy with anything Katrien says and looking for holes in everything . Avory said rd is and wAntss the club at level 1 academy the other bloke said plans have been submitted. Wait to see them.
KM is damned if she does damned if she doesn't with a lot
I reckon RD could sign Lionel messi and you'd still moan .
Bloody right Ledge where would Harriot play! He's one of ours...
bobmunroe said: "We can disagree of course, and I am certainly not happy with a lot of what's gone on over the past year - but at the end of the day, apart from it being night, there is bugger all we can do to forcibly bring about change unless someone amongst the more vociferous on here can stump up the readies and then convince RD to sell. But for CAFC to survive that person would need to be an astute business person, devoid of the emotion we all feel."
Actually no astute business person is likely to stump up the readies needed to persuade RD to sell, and what we need is the opposite: someone with the emotion to stump up regardless of the lack of a business case.
bobmunroe said: "We can disagree of course, and I am certainly not happy with a lot of what's gone on over the past year - but at the end of the day, apart from it being night, there is bugger all we can do to forcibly bring about change unless someone amongst the more vociferous on here can stump up the readies and then convince RD to sell. But for CAFC to survive that person would need to be an astute business person, devoid of the emotion we all feel."
Actually no astute business person is likely to stump up the readies needed to persuade RD to sell, and what we need is the opposite: someone with the emotion to stump up regardless of the lack of a business case.
Of course, Bryane - and they grow on trees don't they?
Couple of things that stood out for me were that it seems if a player is unhappy (reza and Morrison) and doesn't get his own way he can have meeting and he will be allowed to go. Also it doesn't seem or feel like they are too bothered about the number of fans that are not going to renew next season.
Just want to also say well done to @Covered End for his questions he put to Katrien and co.
I am going to get criticised for this but just stating my own view.
I personally don't think Roland has done too bad. We did invest over the summer on players, the Stadium surroundings look a lot better and we are improving our training ground and as Richard Murray suggested we did not have that kind of money under TJ and MS. My main issue is manager recruitment and I think Roland's biggest mistake was not appointing Riga last summer.
Lets look at the previous owners, we had no money for new players, no money to improve the ground, no money for new contracts and then look at what RD has spent since taking over.
Roland's stance is to make money and it is not easy running a football club to make money. I see Roland as a type of business man who wants success and if he is going to make Charlton successful, we need to be in the Premier League. He would make more money from us being in the Premier League than Leige qualifying for the Champions League.
The trust are having this meeting tonight and I do not think it will make an ounce of difference, look at the way Standard Leige fans have protested for starters.
She was doing the v sign against the side of her face if you look closely at the video with the kid and I swear i caught her flashing a few nescafes from the directors box at me in the covered end the other week.
Mugging us right off at every opportunity and must stop at once.
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To a significant extent, he makes his money by licensing the use of the brand. (Or has very significant joint enterprise stakeholders, for example Delta Air Lines owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic. Stagecoach 49% of Virgin Trains, etc, etc.)
The last answer though sadly is the big one, could not be more clear that Roland does not have any plans to talk to the fans of his clubs in an organised way like last night, which is why the meeting tonight is so important, as we dont just have to accept that.
Decided to cheer myself up after by watching the 15 minutes of highlights from the Brentford game, play more like that for the rest of the season and the worry that all the great work CP(and others) did will not be completely undone by us finding ourselves back in League 1.
Among the most dangerous people I've met in business are those who think of themselves as visionaries.
Which leaves us with the reality of Mrs Luzon getting into Charlton athletic prior to Bob Peeters being sacked, and prior to Katriens programme article supporting Bob the day before she sacked him.
Maybe the whole thing is a delayed reaction by Mrs Luzon who became fascinated by Charlton Athletic when we got Reza and Astrit and so on, it simply took 11 months to set up the twitter link to Charlton Athletic.
Katrien did not say it was a fake account, because it is not a fake account, and Katrien does not lie.
Avory said rd is and wAntss the club at level 1 academy the other bloke said plans have been submitted. Wait to see them.
KM is damned if she does damned if she doesn't with a lot
I reckon RD could sign Lionel messi and you'd still moan .
"just can't help but feel she is lying to us again and again"
"time will surely come again when the club needs to raise £1m or so to stay afloat"
Not if involves paying tax
Actually no astute business person is likely to stump up the readies needed to persuade RD to sell, and what we need is the opposite: someone with the emotion to stump up regardless of the lack of a business case.
Just want to also say well done to @Covered End for his questions he put to Katrien and co.
I personally don't think Roland has done too bad. We did invest over the summer on players, the Stadium surroundings look a lot better and we are improving our training ground and as Richard Murray suggested we did not have that kind of money under TJ and MS. My main issue is manager recruitment and I think Roland's biggest mistake was not appointing Riga last summer.
Lets look at the previous owners, we had no money for new players, no money to improve the ground, no money for new contracts and then look at what RD has spent since taking over.
Roland's stance is to make money and it is not easy running a football club to make money. I see Roland as a type of business man who wants success and if he is going to make Charlton successful, we need to be in the Premier League. He would make more money from us being in the Premier League than Leige qualifying for the Champions League.
The trust are having this meeting tonight and I do not think it will make an ounce of difference, look at the way Standard Leige fans have protested for starters.
I think we need to play the paitence game.
You are very quick to judge.
Mugging us right off at every opportunity and must stop at once.