So in the past those who have had the balls to suggest anybody have put forward;
Glenn Hoddle Neil Warnock Avram Grant and now Mr Rolandmustknowsomebody.
Not an impressive list for me, and I don't believe they would do any better than Chris Powell, and I reckon in some cases worse.
We lost narrowly at Wigan, yeah painfully, but narrowly. We have had worse than that I can tell you.
It must feel great for all the sneering triumphalists to rip into Powell at every opportunity. I don't suspect they give a toss for the man himself who as far as I can see cares 100%, gives 100%. Mind you giving somebody a hard time may be a form of carnal pleasure to some.
We have no viable alternative at the moment, and personally I don't particularly want one.
Oh by the way to the sneerers, you can declare that I and other posters like me are so far up Chris Powell's backside, or part of the Powell can do no wrong brigade, but as you live in the land of destruction you won't have any constructive ideas will you?
Go on....make the case for Warnock, that would be the easiest start, then move on to Hoddle and Grant and construct a realistic scenario if you think you can. ....but don't list 'loyalty' as one of the new persons strengths please, the irony would taste like bile.
There will eventually be another manager after Chris Powell, not for a long time I hope. I do hope that person realises that if they were to ever lose a match there will be people on here getting the horn at the prospect of having a new target to attack.
There are plenty of good young coaches all over Europe - when people sarcastically say "name your new guy" the same names are thrown around - it's short sighted. The question is, can the players adapt to a new manager/coach with games running out and pressure mounting?
Well, I'm not throwing in the towel yet and I really hope that CP feels the same way.
Let's see who else arrives on loan, and give CP and his team a week together with a drastically changed squad, and then see how we do against Brum next week. I may be on the happy pills but I am more optimistic after today rather than less, and am really looking forward to seeing the new boys next week.
Chris Powell is a charlton legend as a player and a manager that won us some silverware (not many have done that) but he could end up losing respect like the grey haired fool that is pardew
Giving 100% caring 100% that makes you a good manager then? Im sure Roland has someone lined up and it needs to happen now. Sadly this is what happens when you have a club legend as manager as someone has rightly said on this thread. It will always end in tears.
So in the past those who have had the balls to suggest anybody have put forward;
Glenn Hoddle Neil Warnock Avram Grant and now Mr Rolandmustknowsomebody.
Not an impressive list for me, and I don't believe they would do any better than Chris Powell, and I reckon in some cases worse.
We lost narrowly at Wigan, yeah painfully, but narrowly. We have had worse than that I can tell you.
It must feel great for all the sneering triumphalists to rip into Powell at every opportunity. I don't suspect they give a toss for the man himself who as far as I can see cares 100%, gives 100%. Mind you giving somebody a hard time may be a form of carnal pleasure to some.
We have no viable alternative at the moment, and personally I don't particularly want one.
Oh by the way to the sneerers, you can declare that I and other posters like me are so far up Chris Powell's backside, or part of the Powell can do no wrong brigade, but as you live in the land of destruction you won't have any constructive ideas will you?
Go on....make the case for Warnock, that would be the easiest start, then move on to Hoddle and Grant and construct a realistic scenario if you think you can. ....but don't list 'loyalty' as one of the new persons strengths please, the irony would taste like bile.
There will eventually be another manager after Chris Powell, not for a long time I hope. I do hope that person realises that if they were to ever lose a match there will be people on here getting the horn at the prospect of having a new target to attack.
Do you honestly believe there is a single Charlton fan who doesn't want Powell to succeed?
hop onto another charlton forum and there are people who wanted powell sacked the moment we got promoted from league one. Some a hell of a lot earlier.
Doesn't answer my question though does it. I'm sure every fan wants us to succeed.
That wasn't your question, it wasnt about "us" (charlton) it was about Powell succeeding. Some "supporters" have been on his back from the get go.
So in the past those who have had the balls to suggest anybody have put forward;
Glenn Hoddle Neil Warnock Avram Grant and now Mr Rolandmustknowsomebody.
Not an impressive list for me, and I don't believe they would do any better than Chris Powell, and I reckon in some cases worse.
We lost narrowly at Wigan, yeah painfully, but narrowly. We have had worse than that I can tell you.
It must feel great for all the sneering triumphalists to rip into Powell at every opportunity. I don't suspect they give a toss for the man himself who as far as I can see cares 100%, gives 100%. Mind you giving somebody a hard time may be a form of carnal pleasure to some.
We have no viable alternative at the moment, and personally I don't particularly want one.
Oh by the way to the sneerers, you can declare that I and other posters like me are so far up Chris Powell's backside, or part of the Powell can do no wrong brigade, but as you live in the land of destruction you won't have any constructive ideas will you?
Go on....make the case for Warnock, that would be the easiest start, then move on to Hoddle and Grant and construct a realistic scenario if you think you can. ....but don't list 'loyalty' as one of the new persons strengths please, the irony would taste like bile.
There will eventually be another manager after Chris Powell, not for a long time I hope. I do hope that person realises that if they were to ever lose a match there will be people on here getting the horn at the prospect of having a new target to attack.
If you were given the option would you swap Chris Powell for Malky Mackay?
At last a person who has made a thoughtful suggestion. Quite a lot of similarities between them both, and I understand they were close friends at West Ham. The generosity with which Chris treated Malky when Cardiff won promotion against us led to a glorious photograph. I strongly suspect that both managers would manage in a similar way. However at Cardiff Malky was given loads of money to get in the likes of Bellamy and others, I wonder if he would have done as well at Charlton when starved of resources. Still I do respect the suggestion, but I don't think Malky would represent the major change that some unknown exotic studious bespectacled nicely suited foreign coach may bring. And I don't think I would want to find out.
Oh he is but some fans thought pardew being ex charlton was the right man for the job he talked himself up saying he's a charlton man I think he's more of a bell end than dowie I'd hate Powell to be thought of like that
Chris Powell is a charlton legend as a player and a manager that won us some silverware (not many have done that) but he could end up losing respect like the grey haired fool that is pardew
The respective integrity and class of Chris Powell and Alan Pardew should never be compared.
Roland has selected the players he wants playing in the team, the next move I think he will make is to select a manger to manage them, I do not think it will be CP
If CP goes it will be a foreign coach. At Standard he plucked an Israeli from nowhere and will do the same again. Big difference is that these foreign coaches are used to being given the players and getting on with it.
And what is so tough for all of us, I believe, is that Chris is such a nice bloke. A gentleman in fact. I believe he will have a good career in football management but I just think it has all got too messy at Charlton. Time for everyone to move on.
If RD has got someone lined up then why hasn't he done it already? Keep getting told that he isn't going to worry about fan reaction, so what's he waiting for? Incoming players don't look like Powell's targets, that's not an issue, so what's he waiting for?
Either way RD has to make some sort of decision because this kind of uncertainty isn't doing anyone any favours.
If he wants a yes man head coach then hurry up and get one and save us all the trouble of having to see a good man continually batter his head against a brick wall and fight to keep things together.
There is not too many good british coaches now though is there? Most top teams are coached by foreigners in the premier and we have to ask ourselves why. O I know why look at the England team and the way most british coaches teach there teams how to play which is tactically inept and cannot retain possession of the bloody football.
So in the past those who have had the balls to suggest anybody have put forward;
Glenn Hoddle Neil Warnock Avram Grant and now Mr Rolandmustknowsomebody.
Not an impressive list for me, and I don't believe they would do any better than Chris Powell, and I reckon in some cases worse.
We lost narrowly at Wigan, yeah painfully, but narrowly. We have had worse than that I can tell you.
It must feel great for all the sneering triumphalists to rip into Powell at every opportunity. I don't suspect they give a toss for the man himself who as far as I can see cares 100%, gives 100%. Mind you giving somebody a hard time may be a form of carnal pleasure to some.
We have no viable alternative at the moment, and personally I don't particularly want one.
Oh by the way to the sneerers, you can declare that I and other posters like me are so far up Chris Powell's backside, or part of the Powell can do no wrong brigade, but as you live in the land of destruction you won't have any constructive ideas will you?
Go on....make the case for Warnock, that would be the easiest start, then move on to Hoddle and Grant and construct a realistic scenario if you think you can. ....but don't list 'loyalty' as one of the new persons strengths please, the irony would taste like bile.
There will eventually be another manager after Chris Powell, not for a long time I hope. I do hope that person realises that if they were to ever lose a match there will be people on here getting the horn at the prospect of having a new target to attack.
If you were given the option would you swap Chris Powell for Malky Mackay?
At last a person who has made a thoughtful suggestion. Quite a lot of similarities between them both, and I understand they were close friends at West Ham. The generosity with which Chris treated Malky when Cardiff won promotion against us led to a glorious photograph. I strongly suspect that both managers would manage in a similar way. However at Cardiff Malky was given loads of money to get in the likes of Bellamy and others, I wonder if he would have done as well at Charlton when starved of resources. Still I do respect the suggestion, but I don't think Malky would represent the major change that some unknown exotic studious bespectacled nicely suited foreign coach may bring. And I don't think I would want to find out.
My problem with Powell has been based more around the style of play rather than the results.
We play a bland, dull brand of football that is not easy on the eye. I could accept losing if we did so playing decent passing football.
You could argue that our pitch and maybe players are not conducive to passing football but lets at least give it a go.. Hoofball doesn't seem to be working.
Mackay might not be a goer but realistically I would choose someone like Karl Robinson at MK Dons
If CP goes it will be a foreign coach. At Standard he plucked an Israeli from nowhere and will do the same again. Big difference is that these foreign coaches are used to being given the players and getting on with it.
It did work at Liege in fairness, though whether that is the exception or the rule we don't yet know. But in purely pragmatic/practical terms, RD is far more important to keeping Charlton going than Powell - he goes, his money goes, nothing CP can do will save the club. If RD decides to bring in his own man, for gods sake do it soon as a decisive result must be better than this endless speculative roundabout of misery.
There is not a cat in hells chance that Malky Mckay after dealing with Tan will want to work with a next job with Duchatelet. CP is hardly going to put a good word in. In fact, there is no decent British manager would put up with Duchatelet. Duchatelet wants a coach not a manager in any case.
A continental coach who knows how to get a team passing the ball and is happy working under those conditions is best.
The polish bloke said that we were after him in the summer, I call him a Powell target, as was Gradel I strongly suspect. I also don't think Chris would have been bewildered by the extension to Wiggys contract. I also think that having been alerted to Reza Chris would have been interested.
There's no right of wrong here, some good points from both sides of the argument imo. There does seem a them and us mentality with some people though and its f##kin annoying tbh.
I am 100% behind Powell and have always wanted him to succeed I started this thread because in the football world it's become a reality the results are poor I just wanted people's thoughts on how it will pan out not start a them and us battle
I am 100% behind Powell and have always wanted him to succeed I started this thread because in the football world it's become a reality the results are poor I just wanted people's thoughts on how it will pan out not start a them and us battle
Not just this thread pal and not having a pop, but just in general among Charlton fans.
Powell is a good manager, who done an excellent job last season and the season before, however now were in a completely different situation is he still the right man for the job?
The polish bloke said that we were after him in the summer, I call him a Powell target, as was Gradel I strongly suspect. I also don't think Chris would have been bewildered by the extension to Wiggys contract. I also think that having been alerted to Reza Chris would have been interested.
I think Piotr was saying we originally wanted to sign him next summer wasn't he?
The polish bloke said that we were after him in the summer, I call him a Powell target, as was Gradel I strongly suspect. I also don't think Chris would have been bewildered by the extension to Wiggys contract. I also think that having been alerted to Reza Chris would have been interested.
I think Piotr was saying we originally wanted to sign him next summer wasn't he?
I thought he meant last summer, but came here now because at 20 he wanted to be playing. Either way it suggests that he was a known quantity. Wasn't there some talk of a Scottish manager in Holland who may have given Powell the heads up?
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Let's see who else arrives on loan, and give CP and his team a week together with a drastically changed squad, and then see how we do against Brum next week. I may be on the happy pills but I am more optimistic after today rather than less, and am really looking forward to seeing the new boys next week.
as a man CP is in a totally different league planet to Pardew
Quite a lot of similarities between them both, and I understand they were close friends at West Ham. The generosity with which Chris treated Malky when Cardiff won promotion against us led to a glorious photograph.
I strongly suspect that both managers would manage in a similar way.
However at Cardiff Malky was given loads of money to get in the likes of Bellamy and others, I wonder if he would have done as well at Charlton when starved of resources.
Still I do respect the suggestion, but I don't think Malky would represent the major change that some unknown exotic studious bespectacled nicely suited foreign coach may bring.
And I don't think I would want to find out.
Either way RD has to make some sort of decision because this kind of uncertainty isn't doing anyone any favours.
If he wants a yes man head coach then hurry up and get one and save us all the trouble of having to see a good man continually batter his head against a brick wall and fight to keep things together.
We play a bland, dull brand of football that is not easy on the eye. I could accept losing if we did so playing decent passing football.
You could argue that our pitch and maybe players are not conducive to passing football but lets at least give it a go.. Hoofball doesn't seem to be working.
Mackay might not be a goer but realistically I would choose someone like Karl Robinson at MK Dons
A continental coach who knows how to get a team passing the ball and is happy working under those conditions is best.