SELR_addick. Thanks for your comment, I would be interested to know exactly what you don't agree with ? It is obviously a fact that whatever situation you are born into is for you the norm, and you accept it as such. Therefore presumably you accept an England where in many places elderly people are frightened to leave their homes in the evening because of the behaviour of some ( I stress SOME ) young people. Move forward another 50 years, which I obviously won't, and I hate to imagine what this country will be like.
Seriously, how many fans at Brighton are gay ? I can understand that a lot of Tottenham fans are Jewish as this represents the local community and young Jewish boys and girls are taken to football by their Jewish parents.
I worked for a Jewish firm of accountants a few years ago, and interestingly as many of them were Arsenal supporters as Tottenham. After all Golders Green is much more Arsenal territory than Tottenham.
As an aside, when Spurs fans call themselves the Yid army, are they being offensive or are they cleverly deflecting back the abuse?
Yeah ... the issue is new generation of fans and older fans like they say ... its not really right for a 8 year old to ask his dad what taking it up the bum means (one of palace chants)... I personally think its fine for them to raise this and highlight it ...
Weren't such chants aimed at Beckham about his wife as well, so it's not just a gay thing...
SELR_addick. Thanks for your comment, I would be interested to know exactly what you don't agree with ? It is obviously a fact that whatever situation you are born into is for you the norm, and you accept it as such. Therefore presumably you accept an England where in many places elderly people are frightened to leave their homes in the evening because of the behaviour of some ( I stress SOME ) young people. Move forward another 50 years, which I obviously won't, and I hate to imagine what this country will be like.
Yeah going football was a lot safer 30 years ago..........
... Im pretty sure brighton fans take the piss out of other teams fans and so they should. Was it them chanting 'dirty northen bastards' to us a couple of years back? (it may have been another south coast team)
Obviously there is a line, which most people in society adhere to. But for gods sake people, stop getting offended for no bloody reason
They were singing about us being 'pikies' on Tuesday night ... didn't worry me as we've heard it many times before
The minute that saying something as basic and non abusive as I can see you holding hands is deemed as abuse then we are in a bad place for football
What is abusive about offensive about holding hands
It is a boring Chant that has lost its appeal to me personally but I defend the right of those that sing it as it is not offensive
If they were to cross the thin line after that like we can see you holding dicks then yep offensive and wrong
Eh? They sing it because they want it to be offensive, that's the point. It is their intent to cause offence otherwise why sing it? And it's the impact of that intent on others that counts, even if those others are in the minority, irrespective of whether or not some don't find it offensive. Impact not intent!
Seriously, how many fans at Brighton are gay ? I can understand that a lot of Tottenham fans are Jewish as this represents the local community and young Jewish boys and girls are taken to football by their Jewish parents.
I worked for a Jewish firm of accountants a few years ago, and interestingly as many of them were Arsenal supporters as Tottenham. After all Golders Green is much more Arsenal territory than Tottenham.
As an aside, when Spurs fans call themselves the Yid army, are they being offensive or are they cleverly deflecting back the abuse?
Yeah ... the issue is new generation of fans and older fans like they say ... its not really right for a 8 year old to ask his dad what taking it up the bum means (one of palace chants)... I personally think its fine for them to raise this and highlight it ...
Weren't such chants aimed at Beckham about his wife as well, so it's not just a gay thing...
yeah fair point about Beckham ... I remember singing that one whole heartedly ... the whole things a bit grey innit ...
No the sing it to poke fun at an area just like people sing dirty nthn bastds
That's why it is ok in my book and I defend the right of anyone who songs icsyhh as it is not over the line of what is homophobic or any sort of phobic
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As an aside, when Spurs fans call themselves the Yid army, are they being offensive or are they cleverly deflecting back the abuse?
Weren't such chants aimed at Beckham about his wife as well, so it's not just a gay thing...
Of course vic and David won't like it but it's football not snooker or chess
hilarious thread that was. Total drama queens.
My Trade Union - good on Argyle shame it's not somewhere more prominent...
That's why it is ok in my book and I defend the right of anyone who songs icsyhh as it is not over the line of what is homophobic or any sort of phobic