Addicks reported for abuse of bhafc (prior to last night's fixture)

razil

http://www.london24.com/sport/arsenal/arsenal_charlton_crystal_palace_and_millwall_named_in_brighton_fans_abuse_report_1_2000291

Arsenal, Charlton, Crystal Palace and Millwall fans have all been named in a report sent to the Football Association by Brighton supporters detailing incidents of homophobic abuse aimed at them.

The Seagulls are regularly the subject of taunts with the city of Brighton known for having a large gay community.

The Brighton and Hove Supporters Club (BHASC) and the Gay Football Supporters’ Network (GFSN) have compiled a dossier detailing the abuse, which they submitted to the FA on Tuesday.

It highlights incidents at home and away in Championship clashes with Millwall and Crystal Palace, plus further chants in a league game at Charlton and their FA Cup clash at home to Arsenal in January.

A joint statement from the BHASC and GFSN, on the BBC website, read: “It wouldn’t be described as ‘banter’ if the taunts and chants were about skin colour and something would have been done by now to stop it.

“Brighton & Hove Albion Supporters’ Club has spent over 15 years trying to get the authorities to take this regular abuse of one club’s fans seriously.

“We would like our fans to be able to go to games with kids or their grandparents and not hear much of the stuff we are subjected to - it’s our basic human right.

“Our campaigning with the help of the Football Supporters’ Federation has led to ‘homophobic abuse’ being included in the list of unacceptable behaviour in ground regulations, yet many clubs, their stewards and their fans do not seem to know what constitutes ‘homophobic abuse’.”

PL54

How ridiculous

ValleyGary

cafctom

Great publicity stunt for them, this.

J BLOCK

Ooooooh I say

Greg

Ok, I'll step up. I think they've got a point. It (rightly) wouldn't be considered acceptable to sing songs about, say, Birmingham's large asian population, for example.

Rizzo

Banter

razil

I must say I thought stuff I heard last night for a prolonged period of around 20 minutes - non stop homophobic remarks from the group around me quite sickening, and not remotely funny or banterful. I really don't care if its PC or some other label, it turns my stomach to hear such mindless idiocy from a section of our fans, just as some idiots seem to think its OK to repeatedly and unnecessarily use the C word next to my 9 year old daughter as she was at the time.

Bedsaddick

razil said:

I must say I thought stuff I heard last night for a prolonged period of around 20 minutes - non stop homophobic remarks from the group around me quite sickening, and not remotely funny or banterful. I really don't care if its PC or some other label, it turns my stomach to hear such mindless idiocy from a section of our fans, just as some idiots seem to think its OK to repeatedly and unnecessarily use the C word next to my 9 year old daughter as she was at the time.

These so called supporters think they are so big , especially in front of young kids ( my children have experienced this as well). When alone they act like the weasels they really are. The sooner the club gets rid , the better. As for the homophobic chants , it just highlights how ignorant some people are and hopefully Brighton will pull their CCTV footage and give it to Charlton so they can take action.

CAFCTrev

razil said:

I must say I thought stuff I heard last night for a prolonged period of around 20 minutes - non stop homophobic remarks from the group around me quite sickening, and not remotely funny or banterful. I really don't care if its PC or some other label, it turns my stomach to hear such mindless idiocy from a section of our fans, just as some idiots seem to think its OK to repeatedly and unnecessarily use the C word next to my 9 year old daughter as she was at the time.

Spot on.

Bedsaddick

cafctom said:

Great publicity stunt for them, this.

are you for real? Explain please.

JT

Plaaayer is an avid supporter of this kind of thing.

Henry Irving

Good.

It will take time as it did with racist chanting but views will change and homophobic chanting will be as unacceptable to most as racist chanting is now.

"PC", "ridiculous" "banter", "it's just a laugh", "no one gets hurt", "Sticks and stones", "It's football so I can say what I want", "it's atmosphere" "I know a black/gay guy and he doesn't mind" were the same sad old excuses trotted out to defend monkey noises and other racist abuse but carry on using them anyway.

cafctom

Bedsaddick said:

cafctom said:

Great publicity stunt for them, this.

are you for real? Explain please.

Yes, very real.

They've got a lot of positive publicity from doing this. It's made the mainstream news.

What else do I need to explain?

PL54

Charlton fan in "moan about other Charlton fans" shocker

iainment

Bedsaddick said:

razil said:

I must say I thought stuff I heard last night for a prolonged period of around 20 minutes - non stop homophobic remarks from the group around me quite sickening, and not remotely funny or banterful. I really don't care if its PC or some other label, it turns my stomach to hear such mindless idiocy from a section of our fans, just as some idiots seem to think its OK to repeatedly and unnecessarily use the C word next to my 9 year old daughter as she was at the time.

These so called supporters think they are so big , especially in front of young kids ( my children have experienced this as well). When alone they act like the weasels they really are. The sooner the club gets rid , the better. As for the homophobic chants , it just highlights how ignorant some people are and hopefully Brighton will pull their CCTV footage and give it to Charlton so they can take action.

Agree totally.

CAFCTrev

cafctom said:

Bedsaddick said:

cafctom said:

Great publicity stunt for them, this.

are you for real? Explain please.

Yes, very real.

They've got a lot of positive publicity from doing this. It's made the mainstream news.

What else do I need to explain?

So what? If a cynical publicity stunt still makes ppl aware thats its wrong to abuse homosexuals then Im all for it....

Brendan_O_Connell

Bedsaddick said:

razil said:

I must say I thought stuff I heard last night for a prolonged period of around 20 minutes - non stop homophobic remarks from the group around me quite sickening, and not remotely funny or banterful. I really don't care if its PC or some other label, it turns my stomach to hear such mindless idiocy from a section of our fans, just as some idiots seem to think its OK to repeatedly and unnecessarily use the C word next to my 9 year old daughter as she was at the time.

These so called supporters think they are so big , especially in front of young kids ( my children have experienced this as well). When alone they act like the weasels they really are. The sooner the club gets rid , the better. As for the homophobic chants , it just highlights how ignorant some people are and hopefully Brighton will pull their CCTV footage and give it to Charlton so they can take action.

The thing is Beds, you're talking about half of our fanbase. I don't think things will ever change. I hope they will, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

cafctom

So what was the 'homophobic' chanting last night then? I wasn't at the game, but interested to know what chanting there was that has led to the club being reported.

PL54

How many homosexuals were abused ?

ValleyGary

cafctom said:

So what was the 'homophobic' chanting last night then? I wasn't at the game, but interested to know what chanting there was that has led to the club being reported.

Dont think it was last night, more the game at the valley

Robbo on the wing

PL54 said:

How many homosexuals were abused ?

All of them.

PL54

What every single one - how many is that ?

Bedsaddick

PL54 said:

How many homosexuals were abused ?

Well someone finds it amusing.

LargeAddick

discrimination takes many forms and in my opinion racist chanting is totally unacceptable in any form. Are chants such as 'does your boyfriend know your'e hear' or 'we can see you holding hands' really fall into the same category? I wouldn't sing them as I think they are purile and not particularly amusing but are they that offensive?

PL54

Bedsaddick said:

PL54 said:

How many homosexuals were abused ?

Well someone finds it amusing.

Not really, I find it odd.

Seriously though, how many homosexuals were abused by this chanting ?

nolly

They have powerful people in place the gay community

RedPanda

cafctom said:

So what was the 'homophobic' chanting last night then? I wasn't at the game, but interested to know what chanting there was that has led to the club being reported.

We weren't reported because of last night, but will be if we were in December. It was the usual, plus 'you take it up the arse' which has been a reply to everyone singing that Palace chant recently. Obviously Brighton were not doing a Palace song.

TEL

Childish singing of "taking it up the arse" last night...actually made me cringe (talk about that BBC report doing more harm than good) and some loud arse kept calling them fruits...nothing serious just really childish in my opinion. Just made me think...."Spot the brain cell" other than that our support was pretty good.

Goonerhater

Pink Lawyers group are on the case

no such thing as PC its all the Daily Mail making it up----latest Labour bollox

rananegra

There was a period last night where people were singing "you take it up the arse". Lasted about 5-10 minutes. I didn't hear anything else. As it was behind me I've no idea if that was what the stewards were responding to when they were trying to get someone out. I think the Brighton fans have a point, even if people here do think it is just banter, they are saying it's not. If someone tells me I'm doing something they find offensive, I'd need a good reason to carry on. Banter is not a good reason.