can we get over the fact we have a couple of injuries............4 to my reckening out of a squad of over 30 !! So certainly not decimated as somepeople would have us believe.
it just so happens that 2 are left backs................but Evina has only started 1 League game this swason & CP had played Solly there for 5 or 6 games instead, so hardly a hugh miss. 2 seasons ago I remember Jackson playing a number of games at l/b and I beleive Devite can also play there if needed.
the other 2 are strikers - but we have another 4 that are avaialble (Hulse, BWP, Haynes & Cook) with another 2 we could play if we really wanted (Leon Clarke & Micheal Smith)...............so we are not threadbare in that dept and having to play centre halves there.
we main reason we are where we are is down to playing players out of position, tacticle ineptitude by the management staff and being too negative
I think you over simplify the injury situation Golfie. The fact is that Fuller, Yann and Wiggins are three of our best players and their presence in the team would have made a huge difference. Some might add Wilson to that description too. Losing Hamer, Morrison and Solly would be equally disastrous - whereas losing Kerkar Hollands, Green, BWP and the like would be less impactful. It's not just a numbers thing.
100% backing from me still to Chris Powell. Going to be a hard season this year and hope it ends with the minimum of 3 teams below us. From the look of it I would say 95% of the fans want Powell to stay, but who knows about the owners and they are the only ones to matter. Hopefully we will get something on Tuesday against top of the league Cardiff and take the pressure of SCP
I think most fans realise that the board are not backing sir Chris properly but sir Chris still makes basic errors playing bwp is a example but unless the club back powelly properly how can they totally blame him.if he goes let's be honest who would take this job when you are not going 2 be backed properly curbs no chance do canio no chance.
can we get over the fact we have a couple of injuries............4 to my reckening out of a squad of over 30 !! So certainly not decimated as somepeople would have us believe.
it just so happens that 2 are left backs................but Evina has only started 1 League game this swason & CP had played Solly there for 5 or 6 games instead, so hardly a hugh miss. 2 seasons ago I remember Jackson playing a number of games at l/b and I beleive Devite can also play there if needed.
the other 2 are strikers - but we have another 4 that are avaialble (Hulse, BWP, Haynes & Cook) with another 2 we could play if we really wanted (Leon Clarke & Micheal Smith)...............so we are not threadbare in that dept and having to play centre halves there.
we main reason we are where we are is down to playing players out of position, tacticle ineptitude by the management staff and being too negative
I think you over simplify the injury situation Golfie. The fact is that Fuller, Yann and Wiggins are three of our best players and their presence in the team would have made a huge difference. Some might add Wilson to that description too. Losing Hamer, Morrison and Solly would be equally disastrous - whereas losing Kerkar Hollands, Green, BWP and the like would be less impactful. It's not just a numbers thing.
I agree, this is a very disingenuous post from Golfie. Our biggest issue isn't just that we have injuries, it's that the injuries are to key players. Yann and Fuller are our two best strikers by a long chalk, but we can look at the remainder too. Cook is more of a winger than a striker and has been out for a few weeks with a bad eye infection, Haynes only just returned to fitness on Saturday so can hardly be included in our healthy list, and Rob Hulse was brought in on an emergency loan specifically because of our mounting injuries. His very presence in the squad is evidence of the injury crisis rather than disproving it. Our only consistenly fit striker is BWP, who has scored one solitary goal. And then you list Michael Smith - he's young and untested. Just having players in the right position isn't what we need, it's having the right players in the right position.
It's also quite amusing that you criticise Powell for playing people out of position at left back and then suggest Jackson or Dervite play there. Not so easy, is it Golfie?
"@JaShea99: Ludicrous thread. Don't give the poster the attention he's craving by keeping it alive."
You what? I'm away at uni and I had a text from my dad and two mates at the game RE: the first post and was wondering if anyone else had heard the same; why would I post something like that to "crave attention"? Helmet.
You now have a few hundred posts based on a rumour your dad heard. Seriously what has that achieved other than unnecessarily worrying people who visit this site? If it's true it's ridiculous, given everything he did last season, the team he has built and the fact that there's no one in place to come in. Changing the manager at this stage of the season would do no good. If it ISN'T true then congratulations, you've just helped to perpetuate a rumour that anyone could have started, again I ask why you would bother? You say you wanted to see if anyone had heard the same, what if they had? What would that mean? That they heard the same ramblings of the moron who started it? What was the best that you were expecting, that Chris Powell would post and say "thanks for bringing that up, it is true." Like I say, I don't for a second believe it, but whether it is or isn't true, you've achieved nothing except helping to spread the unfounded rumour.
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
Of course Varney was the key man in recruiting Chris, keeping him in summer 2011 and arranging all the player transfers that summer. It was the key relationship and neither man would have chosen to break it, other factors notwithstanding.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Personally , I think that crystal palaces appointment of Ian holloway has wet fans and most probably the boards appetite for finding a new gem of a manager - I mean if crystal palace can do it , anyone can right ?
But there is / should be loyalty to Chris Powell from the fans and hopefully the board ,he justs needs that helping hand / nudge that lennie gave/gives to freedman to be more successful
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
Of course Varney was the key man in recruiting Chris, keeping him in summer 2010 and arranging all the player transfers in 2011. It was the key relationship and neither man would have chosen to break it, other factors notwithstanding.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Airman - why? Is it simply personalities or does TJ not rate CP as a manger?
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
Of course Varney was the key man in recruiting Chris, keeping him in summer 2010 and arranging all the player transfers in 2011. It was the key relationship and neither man would have chosen to break it, other factors notwithstanding.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Airman - why? Is it simply personalities or does TJ not rate CP as a manger?
I meant MANAGER - notwithstanding the forthcoming festive season.......
Personally , I think that crystal palaces appointment of Ian holloway has wet fans and most probably the boards appetite for finding a new gem of a manager - I mean if crystal palace can do it , anyone can right ?
But there is / should be loyalty to Chris Powell from the fans and hopefully the board ,he justs needs that helping hand / nudge that lennie gave/gives to freedman to be more successful
On my train up to London after the match yesterday there was also a Palace fan, excitedly on the phone to one of his mates "the glory days are back" - what glory days?! :-)
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Coming from the good Airman, that's a very worrying statement!
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
Of course Varney was the key man in recruiting Chris, keeping him in summer 2010 and arranging all the player transfers in 2011. It was the key relationship and neither man would have chosen to break it, other factors notwithstanding.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Airman - why? Is it simply personalities or does TJ not rate CP as a manger?
Bit of both, I understand, but equally I've no reason to believe that Jimenez wouldn't change his mind if we were to be successful in this division.
Chris Powell,should be given time and the backing of the directors.As far as i am concerned he has got a lot of credit in the bank from last Season.He has made mistakes but as long as he has learned from them that is all to the good.He is still inexperienced as a Manager.We all knew at the beginning of the season that this squad wasn't good enough and needed strengthening,this didnt happen.Was that Powell's fault?Changing the Manager doesnt always work.Dowie,Reed,Pardew.Let us stick with Powell and support the players as i feel that their confidence,at the Valley, has taken a battering.
assumed by who Airman, the people in the ticket office, Paddy Powell, Mick Everitt. Or are you talking about Alex Dyer Damian Matthew, Keith Peacock ? If it is the latter I would be worried if it is the the former, and I would be very sceptical because who the hell would they know.
Let's have a bit of perspective here. We have a rather weak and injury riddled squad right now. Middlesborough this season are proving to be one of the top teams in the division. They combine a LOT of flair and skill with a LOT of aggression and ruthlessness. Mowbray said on the FL show last night that it was an even game for an hour and then they started to overpower us. If we had lost 4-1 to an Ipswich or a Birmingham I would be VERY worried. Against Middlesborough, while not easy to take, it is understandable. Boro are a good side
assumed by who Airman, the people in the ticket office, Paddy Powell, Mick Everitt. Or are you talking about Alex Dyer Damian Matthew, Keith Peacock ? If it is the latter I would be worried if it is the the former, and I would be very sceptical because who the hell would they know.
If it was coming from my brother I would have to question it.
I am not going to name names, but it comes from across the club and is the prevailing assumption among people who deal with the playing side on a daily basis, as well as former directors. Do you seriously imagine there is no communication between Sparrows Lane and The Valley? The people in the ticket office would be the last ones to know anything about the football side, I agree, but for the record I never worked there.
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
Of course Varney was the key man in recruiting Chris, keeping him in summer 2010 and arranging all the player transfers in 2011. It was the key relationship and neither man would have chosen to break it, other factors notwithstanding.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Worrying stuff. Maybe 'setting up' is a bit strong, but looking from a boardroom point of view, if the results aren't happening then the buck usually stops with the manager.
By not allowing a manager to strengthen his side to compete in a tougher division, there's then a fair chance that things will start to go south, hence a promising young manager looks less than competent.
Ultimately, if TJ wants Powell out, surely it is his call as the majority shareholder? It certainly looks a lot better from a PR point of view to have a pretext / excuse though!
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
Of course Varney was the key man in recruiting Chris, keeping him in summer 2010 and arranging all the player transfers in 2011. It was the key relationship and neither man would have chosen to break it, other factors notwithstanding.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Now that we've heard it from the horse's mouth ( sorry Rick) does anyone still believe that SCP's job is secure in light of our points total/league position ?
If they got rid of Powell at this stage there'd be uproar. He's proven he can do a job and a good one at that, even if we were to be relegated I'd still keep him. This man is going places and we must fight tooth and nail to keep him
I am not 'in the know' in any way, however if appointing CP was Peter Varney's call then with Varney now gone, I can't help feeling Powell is being set up for a fall by not being allowed to strengthen his team.
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
Of course Varney was the key man in recruiting Chris, keeping him in summer 2010 and arranging all the player transfers in 2011. It was the key relationship and neither man would have chosen to break it, other factors notwithstanding.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Now that we've heard it from the horse's mouth ( sorry Rick) does anyone still believe that SCP's job is secure in light of our points total/league position ?
Has anyone said they believe his job to be secure? Whether they think it would be the right decision to get rid or not is something different, but I don't think anyone has said what you are inferring.
Bit of gossip - a friend of mine works for a posh private school Arround Yeovil/deavon , and him and some students talk about football regularly - recently a Greek lad has said his dad is very interested in investing alot of money in charlton athletic ( considering my mates a yeovil fan , this can right out of the blue )
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It's also quite amusing that you criticise Powell for playing people out of position at left back and then suggest Jackson or Dervite play there. Not so easy, is it Golfie?
If things carry on like this, he could be given the boot on the pretext that results weren't good enough, however this would only be half the story at best.
I don't believe that Jimenez is deliberately setting Powell up for a fall or that the other directors want that, although I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
But there is / should be loyalty to Chris Powell from the fans and hopefully the board ,he justs needs that helping hand / nudge that lennie gave/gives to freedman to be more successful
I don't know anything about deadlines, but it is widely assumed inside the club that Jimenez would like Powell out and has been since before the start of the season.
Coming from the good Airman, that's a very worrying statement!
I am not going to name names, but it comes from across the club and is the prevailing assumption among people who deal with the playing side on a daily basis, as well as former directors. Do you seriously imagine there is no communication between Sparrows Lane and The Valley? The people in the ticket office would be the last ones to know anything about the football side, I agree, but for the record I never worked there.
Chris Powell also wants to sign Messi and Welling striker Jon Main.
By not allowing a manager to strengthen his side to compete in a tougher division, there's then a fair chance that things will start to go south, hence a promising young manager looks less than competent.
Ultimately, if TJ wants Powell out, surely it is his call as the majority shareholder? It certainly looks a lot better from a PR point of view to have a pretext / excuse though!
Has anyone said they believe his job to be secure? Whether they think it would be the right decision to get rid or not is something different, but I don't think anyone has said what you are inferring.
Probably crap but thought it should be told