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I was in a box a few times in the East stand a few seasons ago and there wasnt a smoking area then. You were occasionally let out the other side of the gate to have one... in that great huge empty area.
I have spotted an ex board member chugging on his cigar outside the west tho, so one rule etc.
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Because it's complety open maybe and classed as "outdoor"?On a serious note, the reason why I think it is banned from the ground is so the place conforms to Health and Safety at Work regulations (eg the reason smokers can't spark up in a boozer is because the smoke is harmful to the bar staff, not necessarily other drinkers). When I worked in the service industry and had to go into people homes, I could refuse to go in if there was smoke in the house from a cig, the same as I could refuse to go in if there was a dangerous dog in the house. Smokers are also banned from smoking in company vans etc...
you were saying about the health and safety act that they have to comply with, i was just wondering why at ebbsfleets ground you can smoke anywhere? i know its in the conference so isn’t dictated to by the football league but why would that rule be different if all places of work have to comply with the government law on smoking?
There is a roof on the stands but they dont have any sides and it doesent go along the whole of the pitch. guess that means its "outdoors".
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I don't smoke so I'm not sure, but the people with me that do were certainly allowed out for one.When we had a box over there at Brentford this they allowed people to go and smoke.
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Maybe, not too sure.
Because it's complety open maybe and classed as "outdoor"?On a serious note, the reason why I think it is banned from the ground is so the place conforms to Health and Safety at Work regulations (eg the reason smokers can't spark up in a boozer is because the smoke is harmful to the bar staff, not necessarily other drinkers). When I worked in the service industry and had to go into people homes, I could refuse to go in if there was smoke in the house from a cig, the same as I could refuse to go in if there was a dangerous dog in the house. Smokers are also banned from smoking in company vans etc...
you were saying about the health and safety act that they have to comply with, i was just wondering why at ebbsfleets ground you can smoke anywhere? i know its in the conference so isn’t dictated to by the football league but why would that rule be different if all places of work have to comply with the government law on smoking?
There is a roof on the stands but they dont have any sides and it doesent go along the whole of the pitch. guess that means its "outdoors".0 -
are you suggesting a conspiracy between the 'rich' box owners and the stadium security/enforcement staff in allowing the use of illicit products at the valley ?
North Upper toiletsWhen we had a box over there at Brentford this they allowed people to go and smoke.
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bloody hell rob, you brought up the 'health and safety act' i thought you would know! ; )
Maybe, not too sure.
Because it's complety open maybe and classed as "outdoor"?On a serious note, the reason why I think it is banned from the ground is so the place conforms to Health and Safety at Work regulations (eg the reason smokers can't spark up in a boozer is because the smoke is harmful to the bar staff, not necessarily other drinkers). When I worked in the service industry and had to go into people homes, I could refuse to go in if there was smoke in the house from a cig, the same as I could refuse to go in if there was a dangerous dog in the house. Smokers are also banned from smoking in company vans etc...
you were saying about the health and safety act that they have to comply with, i was just wondering why at ebbsfleets ground you can smoke anywhere? i know its in the conference so isn’t dictated to by the football league but why would that rule be different if all places of work have to comply with the government law on smoking?
There is a roof on the stands but they dont have any sides and it doesent go along the whole of the pitch. guess that means its "outdoors".0 -
Only smack and crack, none of that heavy stuff ;-)
are you suggesting a conspiracy between the 'rich' box owners and the stadium security/enforcement staff in allowing the use of illicit products at the valley ?
North Upper toiletsWhen we had a box over there at Brentford this they allowed people to go and smoke.
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How about grass?..............I didn't mean you Plaaayer0
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hahahha .. now you're smoking along there bro
Only smack and crack, none of that heavy stuff ;-)
are you suggesting a conspiracy between the 'rich' box owners and the stadium security/enforcement staff in allowing the use of illicit products at the valley ?
North Upper toiletsWhen we had a box over there at Brentford this they allowed people to go and smoke.
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Just hope she never gets to hear about this Adam..............have there been whores in the toilets?
we had this convo a few weeks ago, what do you think the vouchers in the back of the season ticket are for!!!
A is for ... arsenal
B is for a ...
to be fair its usualy the poor little old lady who collects the pots in the liberal club, but hey ho...
;-)
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bloody hell rob, you brought up the 'health and safety act' i thought you would know! ; )
Maybe, not too sure.
Because it's complety open maybe and classed as "outdoor"?On a serious note, the reason why I think it is banned from the ground is so the place conforms to Health and Safety at Work regulations (eg the reason smokers can't spark up in a boozer is because the smoke is harmful to the bar staff, not necessarily other drinkers). When I worked in the service industry and had to go into people homes, I could refuse to go in if there was smoke in the house from a cig, the same as I could refuse to go in if there was a dangerous dog in the house. Smokers are also banned from smoking in company vans etc...
you were saying about the health and safety act that they have to comply with, i was just wondering why at ebbsfleets ground you can smoke anywhere? i know its in the conference so isn’t dictated to by the football league but why would that rule be different if all places of work have to comply with the government law on smoking?
There is a roof on the stands but they dont have any sides and it doesent go along the whole of the pitch. guess that means its "outdoors".0 -
It occurs to me that if - in addition to not catering for smokers - the club also refused to cater for people with weak bowels, then there would be no toilets in the upper north for people to smoke in. Well not in the gents at least.0
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I am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Congratulations, that statement as just won you the cock of the week award.
In order to satisfy you, let me know what games you are going to.
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Look out Lincs, ROTW is known to wrap B&B doors round peoples heads! :-/I am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Congratulations, that statement as just won you the cock of the week award.
In order to satisfy you, let me know what games you are going to.0 -
thanks for the compliment, if is was intended as such .. you want to satisfy me? ... think I'll pass on that one mushI am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Congratulations, that statement as just won you the cock of the week award.
In order to satisfy you, let me know what games you are going to.0 -
B&B or B&Q?
Look out Lincs, ROTW is known to wrap B&B doors round peoples heads! :-/I am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Congratulations, that statement as just won you the cock of the week award.
In order to satisfy you, let me know what games you are going to.0 -
Robbo the solution is simple. Don't light a cigarette when you are at The Valley. It's not impossible to refrain for an hour and a quarter is it ? What do you do on an aeroplane ?
He sits on the wing!
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Definitely B&B
B&B or B&Q?
Look out Lincs, ROTW is known to wrap B&B doors round peoples heads! :-/I am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Congratulations, that statement as just won you the cock of the week award.
In order to satisfy you, let me know what games you are going to.0 -
I'll bear that in mind .. ( :>)
Definitely B&B
B&B or B&Q?
Look out Lincs, ROTW is known to wrap B&B doors round peoples heads! :-/I am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Congratulations, that statement as just won you the cock of the week award.
In order to satisfy you, let me know what games you are going to.0 -
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Congrats Lincs . You've won that award more often than Powell has won Manager of The Month.I am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Congratulations, that statement as just won you the cock of the week award.
In order to satisfy you, let me know what games you are going to.0 -
Why can't the club sell nicotine patches with the burgers and coke, the money could go towards our youth academy, after Saturdays 1st half performance, they'd have gone down a bomb.0
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Chuck out the smokers caught puffing away in non smokers areas out. That's what I say.0
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I wouldn't go to the bogs for a half time smoke, partly because it's unfair on non smokers and partly because I can't imagine it's particuarly enjoyable.
As a smoker you have to have a bit of consideration for others in enclosed and crowded spaces, similarly as a non smoker you have to a bit of perspective, I've been having a cigarette on a deserted open air train platform 40 yards from the nearest person and someone has walked all the way over to me going right into one about how that they don't want cancer through my second hand smoke.
From my understanding, It's not illegal to smoke in the ground, it's illegal to smoke in sunstantially enclosed workplaces so if you have a fag behind the East Stand you aren't breaking any laws. You are breaking Ground Regulations and if the club doesn't attempt to enforce the rules they are breaking a Football league rule.
In an ideal world the club would be able to advertise the area by the tunstiles in Landsdowne Mews as an area where you could legitmatly have a cigarette and a beer at half time, that way anyone who wanted a fag at half time would have to accept that they pay slightly more for tickets but would be catered for in an area that is already stewarded. Unfortuantely I'm not sure the club are even allowed to do this under the rules that the league has enforced.
As someone said earlier in the thread the way laws and rules like this are enforced in this country are a joke. It's always a box ticking exercise and allows no room for common sense solutions.0 -
As a smoker and an admitted 'Toilet Smoker' i can see your problem with this issue.
I would be all for a smoking area in the open and can see this benefiting Charlton Athletic in a whole, one to avoid and fine and secondly to stop the whinging from the non-smokers to keep them happy.
But sadly this issue won't be addressed for many years to come so this thread is pointless and it is useless to be arguing about it. You wouldn't be moaning if there wasn't a smoking ban but now because it is the non-smokers feel like they have the right to dig! People should stop making smokers feel victimized, as everyone has a bad habit but most of them are less obvious than smoking.
As for the comparing smokers to 'Junkies' how ridiculous.0 -
Fortunately my bad habbits don't affect the health of other people.
I think you've just topped LincsAddick for most stupid post.0 -
2 minuets in the toilet will not affect your health one every fortnight i sit in the NL, its never been a real big issue there but when it has been bad i do refrain from smoking.0
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"the whinging from the non-smokers"
no irony there then
"People should stop making smokers feel victimized, as everyone has a bad habit but most of them are less obvious than smoking."
.Fortunately my bad habbits don't affect the health of other people.
What Joe 90 said
I think you've just topped LincsAddick for most stupid post.
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You crazy, I like you but you crazy0
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2 minuets in the toilet will not affect your health one every fortnight i sit in the NL, its never been a real big issue there but when it has been bad i do refrain from smoking.
So what if a 5 year old child has asthma and needs to go to the toilet or as mentioned on here before the fella who's father has a lung problems but won't use the loos because of all the smoke? Will it not affect them?0
