I cant believe your kids get their clothes burned coming out of the ground? Blimey.
I did contact Derby after yet another smoking conversation on here. As the coachers know, the stewards let everyone outside with beers and the smokers were able to enjoy their smokes and beer in the sunshine, flipping brilliant atmosphere with everyone happy. I asked Derby to let me know how much the extra cost of this idea was to them, tried a couple of times but no response.
Not being able to smoke in that great big expanse of wasteland in the East Terrace is stupid.
I think the idea of paying for the upkeep of a system for people to go out for a smoke is a good idea. See how desperate people are for a smoke then. Do the turnstiles reverse? get everyone to pay a pound to go out into an area that randoms can't get into.
Also, dont think the club should 'have to provide' a smoking area in every stand of the ground. If people want to smoke during the game and at half time, they should move to the stand where they can do so if the only stand that it is feasible in is the east, then move there.
I think the electric cigs are great, but would be a nightmare for stewards to work out who was smoking a real cig or a fake cig. Would probably mean people would try to get away with smoking real cigs in their seats too.
I think smokers should be frisked at the turnstiles, if they're found to be holding any tobacco taking paraphernalia; they should be shot on sight, and then made to pay for any bullets used! IMO
suzisausageI think the electric cigs are great, but would be a nightmare for stewards to work out who was smoking a real cig or a fake cig. Would probably mean people would try to get away with smoking real cigs in their seats too. Do the electric ones give of smoke then? Not a dig just asking I don't know
Not all fake fags are allowed to be smoked inside though. We don't allow them to be smoked in the customer cafe at work as they emit a slight smell and mist.
suzisausageI think the electric cigs are great, but would be a nightmare for stewards to work out who was smoking a real cig or a fake cig. Would probably mean people would try to get away with smoking real cigs in their seats too. Do the electric ones give of smoke then? Not a dig just asking I don't know
They don't give off smoke themselves like normal cigs but they light up when you take a drag, and you exhale what looks like smoke. The ones I had (Skycigs) don't smell.
I think smokers should be frisked at the turnstiles, if they're found to be holding any tobacco taking paraphernalia; they should be shot on sight, and then made to pay for any bullets used! IMO
There is also the cost of staffing 4 smoking areas (if you have one for the Covered End then you need to offer the same for the JS, East and West)plus the barriers and waste disposal bins etc plus the cost of cleaning up as residents may not like the idea of piles of dog ends in their streets.
Why do you need 4? Millwall trialled it with one & have now introduced another smoking area 1 year later. Why can't the stewards who man the gates/exit doors just move back into the smoking area to steward that area?
Why all the extra cost for disposal bins & cleaning up? What happens currently when thousands leave the game, spark up & dump their dog ends on the floor?
Does it not cost more, cause more safety issues and cause more disrutption employing stewards to check the toilets regularly for smokers etc? (which it doesn't sound like they do)
The issues are not insurmountable to reach a solution for all.....but it does then rely on smokers making the effort to go outside rather than into the toilets still.
Not being able to smoke in that great big expanse of wasteland in the East Terrace is stupid.
Agreed. I can appreciate people don't like smoking/being around people that do, but what problem anyone would have with being able to smoke at the end of the east terrace is beyond me. Even in the east stand boxes, you may arrive at midday, and leave between 5-6pm. People who smoke quite enjoy smoking when drinking. An area at the rear of the East Stand would make sense.
I think that anyone who smokes is worse than Hitler. Anyone that brings cigerettes into a football stadium should be given a road map and directions to Poland.
Not being able to smoke in that great big expanse of wasteland in the East Terrace is stupid.
Agreed. I can appreciate people don't like smoking/being around people that do, but what problem anyone would have with being able to smoke at the end of the east terrace is beyond me. Even in the east stand boxes, you may arrive at midday, and leave between 5-6pm. People who smoke quite enjoy smoking when drinking. An area at the rear of the East Stand would make sense.
If you're in one of the East Stand boxes they do have an area that you're allowed to smoke in.
I have a very rare gift. Whenever anyone even out in the open lights a cigarette the smoke has an uncanny ability of directly seeking me out and continues to do so even when I move. On that basis the idea of people lighting up anywhere within a thousand yards of me is out as far as I am concerned.
I am an ex smoker but even at the height of my addiction I could manage to refrain from smoking for a few hours at a concert, in the cinema, on a train, a plane, a bus, at a football match. Anyone who doesn't have the willpower to go without a puff for the duration of a football match should not bother coming and stay at home. The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
What I can't stand is the amount of smokers outside after the game , in a tightly packed crowd moving slowly,with their cigarettes down by their sides. I've lost count of the amount of times they've burned my daughters clothing or mine for that matter.
It's not just after football - smokers are selfish a55holes by definition. I inhale four different cigarettes every single morning on my way to the station, usually get ash on me too. This morning there was a line of them outside the door blanketing the entrance (if they knew how awful they smell after, they surely wouldn't do it!), then I inhale another one from my destination to my desk, and invariably a similar amount on the way back. Every. Day.
The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Hmm, yes, smoking is like heroin. Also imagine going into that toilet and finding someone f*cking a brass, or slitting someones throat. All equally irrelevant
There are no issues to be resolved here as the rule is already in place. No smoking , period. Businesses that provide smoking areas usually have a financial incentive to do so. Charlton FC have no incentive to provide them and should not.
I think that anyone who smokes is worse than Hitler. Anyone that brings cigerettes into a football stadium should be given a road map and directions to Poland.
The last thing they should do is attempt to justify what is an addiction. How would smokers feel about going to the toilet for an illicit fag and finding that their favorite trap was occupied by a junkie cooking his smack and strapping his arm up ready to inject a fix?
Hmm, yes, smoking is like heroin. Also imagine going into that toilet and finding someone f*cking a brass, or slitting someones throat. All equally irrelevant
are you suggesting that shagging whores and/or committing murder in a public toilet is an addiction ?. My point is that both nicotine and heroin are addictive and both are 'killers' over the longer term. I suggest that smokers would find the actions of my exemplar smack addict as obnoxious as most c/lifers find the actions of smokers who partake of their particular addiction in a place where it is not allowed .. does that clear up your obvious confusion Addicted? .. or are you like your name a hopeless addict trying to justify the unjustifiable ?
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I did contact Derby after yet another smoking conversation on here. As the coachers know, the stewards let everyone outside with beers and the smokers were able to enjoy their smokes and beer in the sunshine, flipping brilliant atmosphere with everyone happy. I asked Derby to let me know how much the extra cost of this idea was to them, tried a couple of times but no response.
Not being able to smoke in that great big expanse of wasteland in the East Terrace is stupid.
Also, dont think the club should 'have to provide' a smoking area in every stand of the ground. If people want to smoke during the game and at half time, they should move to the stand where they can do so if the only stand that it is feasible in is the east, then move there.
Would probably mean people would try to get away with smoking real cigs in their seats too.
Would probably mean people would try to get away with smoking real cigs in their seats too. Do the electric ones give of smoke then? Not a dig just asking I don't know
1. Me HITTING him!
2. Him HITTING the floor!
3. The ambulance HITTING 100mph to the A&E!
Why all the extra cost for disposal bins & cleaning up? What happens currently when thousands leave the game, spark up & dump their dog ends on the floor?
Does it not cost more, cause more safety issues and cause more disrutption employing stewards to check the toilets regularly for smokers etc? (which it doesn't sound like they do)
The issues are not insurmountable to reach a solution for all.....but it does then rely on smokers making the effort to go outside rather than into the toilets still.
I can appreciate people don't like smoking/being around people that do, but what problem anyone would have with being able to smoke at the end of the east terrace is beyond me.
Even in the east stand boxes, you may arrive at midday, and leave between 5-6pm. People who smoke quite enjoy smoking when drinking. An area at the rear of the East Stand would make sense.
Anyone that brings cigerettes into a football stadium should be given a road map and directions to Poland.
Cigarette w@nkers!
Anyone that brings cigerettes into a football stadium should be given a road map and directions to Poland.
Hahaha.Not really.
are you suggesting that shagging whores and/or committing murder in a public toilet is an addiction ?. My point is that both nicotine and heroin are addictive and both are 'killers' over the longer term. I suggest that smokers would find the actions of my exemplar smack addict as obnoxious as most c/lifers find the actions of smokers who partake of their particular addiction in a place where it is not allowed .. does that clear up your obvious confusion Addicted? .. or are you like your name a hopeless addict trying to justify the unjustifiable ?