I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Of course he would be. With football fans the way they are, he'd get crucified with chants week-in and week-out. The FA needs to do a lot more to punish homophobic chanting to build an atmosphere where players won't be singled out for being gay in the stands.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Of course he would be. With football fans the way they are, he'd get crucified with chants week-in and week-out.
Exactly. Could you imagine the abuse the championship footballer mentioned by Addickted would get down at the Den.
They crucified a bloke on saturday just because he used to play for them.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Some of the things being said on here are cringeworthy, have some of you never actually met a gay man?
Contrary to the way some are carrying on 99% of gay men don't go mincing round like some stereotype but are just normal regular people who want to enjoy their life in peace.
My brother in law is gay and is 'married' to his partner, my three young children see them all the time at family events and fully understand that Chris is no different to anyone else apart from having a male partner. It is just no big deal to them.
Incidentally, we had a very famous gay Rugby League player over here in the 1990s, Ian Roberts, who played for Australia and was 'out' while he played - below is a superb interview with him.....
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Why do people get married? It's the same reason for a civil partnership. None of this tax nonsense.
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Aren't you the enlightened chap that said the horrors taking place in Syria were the fault of people who demonstrated against the Iraq war a decade ago ?
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Why do people get married? It's the same reason for a civil partnership. None of this tax nonsense.
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
Hetrosexual people and gay folk getting married for the same reason? It's hard to imagine a hetrosexual couple getting married, making all the arrangements etc, then deciding to keep the whole thing a big secret. The happy gay couple clearly have alternative motives.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Your comments are too silly to waste time on.
Jolly Robin started it. I merely highlighted what he was suggesting.
What a ridiculous idea. Who's says there are any gay footballers anyway.
I think it's a pretty safe assumption to make, given the basic law of averages. In fact, given a conservative estimate of 5% of the population being homosexual, with there being approximately 2000 professional footballers in the top four divisions, there would, by law of aervages, be around 100 gay footballers in England. Of course, this is purely professional footballers in the top four divisions, it doesn't take into account those playing professionally in other divisions/leagues, nor indeed non-professionally. In any case, the two (that I know of) openly gay footballers that have been teammates in the past, and the entirely gay team that I've played against in the past make me 'who'.
It's doesn't necessarily follow that the % of gay people is spread evenly amongst society. For example, I would suspect that the % of gay dancers or fashion designers would be a lot higher than the % of gay footballers.
It would be interesting to know what the % of gay footballers actually is, surely the PFA could do a confidential survey to find this out?
That's a good point. However, I'd counter with the fact that, if anything, a professional sportsman is marginally more likely to be gay - since a huge part of the lives of many gay men is spent in a gym
You're right though, of course - some professions are more attractive to gay men - but I think you'd be genuinely surprised how my men are gay but don't show any of the more obvious traits of homosexuality that form the average stereotype.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Aren't you the enlightened chap that said the horrors taking place in Syria were the fault of people who demonstrated against the Iraq war a decade ago ?
I suggest you re read the Syria thread. When you struggle with a big word, just let me know and I'll help you.
No - you highlighted that a couple who wished to keep their relationship out of the media spotlight as being 'odd'.
It's hardly a secret - seeing as the majority of my work colleagues are aware and the the majority of those in the PFA are aware. I suspect that the Inland Revenue are also aware.
They just don't want bigotted individuals to give them grieve whilst they are performing their professional duties - and who can blame them.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Why do people get married? It's the same reason for a civil partnership. None of this tax nonsense.
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
Hetrosexual people and gay folk getting married for the same reason? It's hard to imagine a hetrosexual couple getting married, making all the arrangements etc, then deciding to keep the whole thing a big secret. The happy gay couple clearly have alternative motives.
But a hetrosexual doesnt get stick from thousands of football fans for marrying a women does he?
The motive for them to want it kept quiet is that he doesnt want it being leaked, a huge fuss made of him and getting the piss taken out of him up and down the country most saturday afternoons. His family and friends know, so im sure thats all that matters to them. I dont know why thats so difficult to understand?
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Aren't you the enlightened chap that said the horrors taking place in Syria were the fault of people who demonstrated against the Iraq war a decade ago ?
I suggest you re read the Syria thread. When you struggle with a big word, just let me know and I'll help you.
Not too many big words here old boy (and I've copied the entire opening paragraph of your diatribe so I can't be accused of taking the odd sentence out of context):
Smudge7946 "The blame for the sad recent events in the middle east lies directly with the estimated one million left wing soap dodging naïve idiots that thought they were being so clever, high and mighty by getting on the 'not in my name' band wagon and demonstrating against the Iraq war ten years ago."
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Why do people get married? It's the same reason for a civil partnership. None of this tax nonsense.
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
Hetrosexual people and gay folk getting married for the same reason? It's hard to imagine a hetrosexual couple getting married, making all the arrangements etc, then deciding to keep the whole thing a big secret. The happy gay couple clearly have alternative motives.
But a hetrosexual doesnt get stick from thousands of football fans for marrying a women does he?
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Why do people get married? It's the same reason for a civil partnership. None of this tax nonsense.
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
Hetrosexual people and gay folk getting married for the same reason? It's hard to imagine a hetrosexual couple getting married, making all the arrangements etc, then deciding to keep the whole thing a big secret. The happy gay couple clearly have alternative motives.
I can't decide whether you're a really poor wind up merchant, or were dropped on your head as a child.
What a ridiculous idea. Who's says there are any gay footballers anyway.
I think it's a pretty safe assumption to make, given the basic law of averages. In fact, given a conservative estimate of 5% of the population being homosexual, with there being approximately 2000 professional footballers in the top four divisions, there would, by law of aervages, be around 100 gay footballers in England. Of course, this is purely professional footballers in the top four divisions, it doesn't take into account those playing professionally in other divisions/leagues, nor indeed non-professionally. In any case, the two (that I know of) openly gay footballers that have been teammates in the past, and the entirely gay team that I've played against in the past make me 'who'.
It's doesn't necessarily follow that the % of gay people is spread evenly amongst society. For example, I would suspect that the % of gay dancers or fashion designers would be a lot higher than the % of gay footballers.
It would be interesting to know what the % of gay footballers actually is, surely the PFA could do a confidential survey to find this out?
They have, it was confidential and therefore they are not even going to reveal how many there were. However, as a result of this survey the set up a PFA group for gay members.
As an aside, I undestand that is an accepted fact by the Spanish press that C Ronaldo is. They don't make a big deal of it though so it is not widely reported (it's not new, so it's not news).
As for Addickted's comment, so you work with a guy who is in a relationship with a gay championship footballer. But they want to keep it a secret. And the way they keep it a secret is to make sure people at work know? In my experience, the best why to keep secrets about people in the public eye is to actually keep it a secret.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Why does it seem odd that some individuals do not wish to behave in the same way that other individuals do Smudge? Why should Addickted's friend not do exactly what he wants with his life, just because others chose to campaign in the past? If you choose not to vote why would I consider you to be "very odd" because of the struggle the chartists had to gain you that right to vote?
I think the sentence: "He just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he knows he'll get from the terraces." is explanation enough really.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Of course he would be. With football fans the way they are, he'd get crucified with chants week-in and week-out.
Exactly. Could you imagine the abuse the championship footballer mentioned by Addickted would get down at the Den.
They crucified a bloke on saturday just because he used to play for them.
Of course, if a conspicuously gay footballer played for the opposition at The Valley he would be treated with respect...
White, working-class men make up the majority of a crowd - not a demographic renowned for its open-mindedness and tolerance.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Why do people get married? It's the same reason for a civil partnership. None of this tax nonsense.
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
Hetrosexual people and gay folk getting married for the same reason? It's hard to imagine a hetrosexual couple getting married, making all the arrangements etc, then deciding to keep the whole thing a big secret. The happy gay couple clearly have alternative motives.
But a hetrosexual doesnt get stick from thousands of football fans for marrying a women does he?
The motive for them to want it kept quiet is that he doesnt want it being leaked, a huge fuss made of him and getting the piss taken out of him up and down the country most saturday afternoons. His family and friends know, so im sure thats all that matters to them. I dont know why thats so difficult to understand?
Some do, look at Beckham, but it's passed off as banter.
Just like to know though, what kind of homophobic chants are made at football matches these days to make it that difficult for a gay player to come out? Anything with venom, then the culprits would surely be shown the door, just like with racism.
Before I get jumped on, I'm far from homophobic, just wondering why some get so carried a way with themselves, even though no one's actually "come out' yet and been abused
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Why does it seem odd that some individuals do not wish to behave in the same way that other individuals do Smudge? Why should Addickted's friend not do exactly what he wants with his life, just because others chose to campaign in the past? If you choose not to vote why would I consider you to be "very odd" because of the struggle the chartists had to gain you that right to vote?
I think the sentence: "He just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he knows he'll get from the terraces." is explanation enough really.
Algarve, he is being open about it. The gay footballer and Addickteds gay mate have told there work colleagues about there civil partnership and are clearly not worried about others finding out.
If the gay footballer was so concerned about being called names from the stand, he wouldn't civil partnership his gay mate and wouldn't have told people about it.
Incidentally why does the spouse of a well paid championship footballer work? Surely they have enough money to go shopping, beauty treatment and enjoy musical theatre all day.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Civil Partnerships aren't solely about making your love for one another public. They also give you certain tax considerations, state benefits, pensions & legal rights (such as wills etc).
It gets worse! The suggestion now is that the reason that this unnamed, over paid, under worked gay championship footballer has civil paternershipped his boyfriend is to avoid paying tax on his hefty wage packet. Schools, hospitals and public works don't appear by magic. Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Why do people get married? It's the same reason for a civil partnership. None of this tax nonsense.
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
Hetrosexual people and gay folk getting married for the same reason? It's hard to imagine a hetrosexual couple getting married, making all the arrangements etc, then deciding to keep the whole thing a big secret. The happy gay couple clearly have alternative motives.
But a hetrosexual doesnt get stick from thousands of football fans for marrying a women does he?
The motive for them to want it kept quiet is that he doesnt want it being leaked, a huge fuss made of him and getting the piss taken out of him up and down the country most saturday afternoons. His family and friends know, so im sure thats all that matters to them. I dont know why thats so difficult to understand?
Some do, look at Beckham, but it's passed off as banter.
Just like to know though, what kind of homophobic chants are made at football matches these days to make it that difficult for a gay player to come out? Anything with venom, then the culprits would surely be shown the door, just like with racism.
Before I get jumped on, I'm far from homophobic, just wondering why some get so carried a way with themselves, even though no one's actually "come out' yet and been abused
I think that's the point, no one wants to be the first to test the water. Black players had no choice but to be obviously black, and it took a good ten years of solid abuse before that calmed. Why would anyone want to be the one to find out if it actually ends up being as bad as they suspected?
In utter disbelief of some people on this thread. I really don't think you would do much different if you were in these guys shoes. I don't go jumping about saying I'm straight so why should some one do that about being gay? I fully respect these players decision to keep their private lives away from the terraces. Just look at the "banter" Ashley cole has to endure because his marriage with Cheryl failed. If that's not enough to terrify any footballer I don't know what is. But it's easy to say when you don't have millions of prying eyes waiting to oust you for anything to the national media.
I work with a guy who is in a civil partnershp with a Championship footballer. All his teamates are aware he's gay - he just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he know's he'll get from the terraces.
That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships. Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Of course he would be. With football fans the way they are, he'd get crucified with chants week-in and week-out.
Exactly. Could you imagine the abuse the championship footballer mentioned by Addickted would get down at the Den.
They crucified a bloke on saturday just because he used to play for them.
Of course, if a conspicuously gay footballer played for the opposition at The Valley he would be treated with respect...
White, working-class men make up the majority of a crowd - not a demographic renowned for its open-mindedness and tolerance.
I refuse to read your comments until you change your user name to a less racist one.
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That seems very odd. Gay blokes moaned and protested for years for there gay relationships to be public and the law was changed to allow gay civil partnerships.
Now addickted is telling us about his work colleague who is a gay civil partnership with a gay championship footballer, but the whole thing is some sort of state secret as the happy participants in this gay union are scared that people might find out!
Exactly. Could you imagine the abuse the championship footballer mentioned by Addickted would get down at the Den.
They crucified a bloke on saturday just because he used to play for them.
Maybe the tax dodging gay footballer has other reasons that he doesn't want anyone to know.
Contrary to the way some are carrying on 99% of gay men don't go mincing round like some stereotype but are just normal regular people who want to enjoy their life in peace.
My brother in law is gay and is 'married' to his partner, my three young children see them all the time at family events and fully understand that Chris is no different to anyone else apart from having a male partner. It is just no big deal to them.
Incidentally, we had a very famous gay Rugby League player over here in the 1990s, Ian Roberts, who played for Australia and was 'out' while he played - below is a superb interview with him.....
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2005/s1468762.htm
.....and here he is in action......
But sure, he doesn't want people to know because he's a tax dodger, of course.
It's hard to imagine a hetrosexual couple getting married, making all the arrangements etc, then deciding to keep the whole thing a big secret. The happy gay couple clearly have alternative motives.
You're right though, of course - some professions are more attractive to gay men - but I think you'd be genuinely surprised how my men are gay but don't show any of the more obvious traits of homosexuality that form the average stereotype.
I suggest you re read the Syria thread. When you struggle with a big word, just let me know and I'll help you.
It's hardly a secret - seeing as the majority of my work colleagues are aware and the the majority of those in the PFA are aware. I suspect that the Inland Revenue are also aware.
They just don't want bigotted individuals to give them grieve whilst they are performing their professional duties - and who can blame them.
The motive for them to want it kept quiet is that he doesnt want it being leaked, a huge fuss made of him and getting the piss taken out of him up and down the country most saturday afternoons. His family and friends know, so im sure thats all that matters to them. I dont know why thats so difficult to understand?
Smudge7946 "The blame for the sad recent events in the middle east lies directly with the estimated one million left wing soap dodging naïve idiots that thought they were being so clever, high and mighty by getting on the 'not in my name' band wagon and demonstrating against the Iraq war ten years ago."
As an aside, I undestand that is an accepted fact by the Spanish press that C Ronaldo is. They don't make a big deal of it though so it is not widely reported (it's not new, so it's not news).
As for Addickted's comment, so you work with a guy who is in a relationship with a gay championship footballer. But they want to keep it a secret. And the way they keep it a secret is to make sure people at work know?
In my experience, the best why to keep secrets about people in the public eye is to actually keep it a secret.
I think the sentence: "He just doesn't want to be open about it, mainly because of the abuse he knows he'll get from the terraces."
is explanation enough really.
White, working-class men make up the majority of a crowd - not a demographic renowned for its open-mindedness and tolerance.
Just like to know though, what kind of homophobic chants are made at football matches these days to make it that difficult for a gay player to come out? Anything with venom, then the culprits would surely be shown the door, just like with racism.
Before I get jumped on, I'm far from homophobic, just wondering why some get so carried a way with themselves, even though no one's actually "come out' yet and been abused
If the gay footballer was so concerned about being called names from the stand, he wouldn't civil partnership his gay mate and wouldn't have told people about it.
Incidentally why does the spouse of a well paid championship footballer work? Surely they have enough money to go shopping, beauty treatment and enjoy musical theatre all day.
For example
Chris Solly joins Crystal Palace, and proudly announces he's always wanted to play for the biggest team in South London. He then comes out as gay.
Will his sexuality be a major factor when he returns to The Valley with the Nigels? I don't think so...
(that is a joke btw)