in our defence owlsonline, how many wednesday fans live in london? I would suggest at least 10 times more than the amount of addicks living in yorkshire.
Oh good, I haven't been on this thread for a few hours and it has degenerated into a "who's got the biggest willy" competition.
We have been a big club in the past. 75,000 crowds, 40,000 average crowds etc. The disastrous 1960's and 1970's coupled with the move to Sellout Park didn't help our fan base.
Being out of the top flight for almost 30 years made a huge impact on our fan base.
Being back at the Valley and the most recent Premiership years gave the club the opportunity to re-connect with lapsed fans (Valley Express) and to re-build from that disastrous time.
If you compare our gates now to what they were when we were last in tier three, we have come along way.
Wednesday has been a yo-yo club but has benefited from less years in the doldrums than us.
I'm finding all this a bit of a show up. Yes they are a bigger club no question no comparison.
However where they have stagnated we have gone from a club struggling to attact 7,000 in Division 2 on a regular basis to a club that is attracting 16,000 in the 3rd division. We are at the lowest i have seen the club in my lifetime but that kind of progress on attendances will do for me.
I'm also a little less cocky than the rest because I know Charlton let do our gloating and taunting at the end of the season when we have achieved sometihng rather than now when it could all still blow up in our face
take it how you like it , I despair that other clubs fans see you as a typical Charlton fan.
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Gotta agree a bit here, if you're going to go on another clubs forum and give it the big un, you should at least do it in the style of James Bond, rather than George Formby!
I'm finding all this a bit of a show up. Yes they are a bigger club no question no comparison.
However where they have stagnated we have gone from a club struggling to attact 7,000 in Division 2 on a regular basis to a club that is attracting 16,000 in the 3rd division. We are at the lowest i have seen the club in my lifetime but that kind of progress on attendances will do for me.
I'm also a little less cocky than the rest because I know Charlton let do our gloating and taunting at the end of the season when we have achieved sometihng rather than now when it could all still blow up in our face
Agreed. I just want us to go about our business without to much fuss and then come May we can see where we are.
I'm finding all this a bit of a show up. Yes they are a bigger club no question no comparison.
However where they have stagnated we have gone from a club struggling to attact 7,000 in Division 2 on a regular basis to a club that is attracting 16,000 in the 3rd division. We are at the lowest i have seen the club in my lifetime but that kind of progress on attendances will do for me.
I'm also a little less cocky than the rest because I know Charlton let do our gloating and taunting at the end of the season when we have achieved sometihng rather than now when it could all still blow up in our face
Agreed. I just want us to go about our business without to much fuss and then come May we can see where we are.
Sounds good to me, he who laughs 1st and all that.
I'm finding all this a bit of a show up. Yes they are a bigger club no question no comparison.
However where they have stagnated we have gone from a club struggling to attact 7,000 in Division 2 on a regular basis to a club that is attracting 16,000 in the 3rd division. We are at the lowest i have seen the club in my lifetime but that kind of progress on attendances will do for me.
I'm also a little less cocky than the rest because I know Charlton let do our gloating and taunting at the end of the season when we have achieved sometihng rather than now when it could all still blow up in our face
Agreed. I just want us to go about our business without to much fuss and then come May we can see where we are.
Sounds good to me, he who laughs 1st and all that.
We won't laugh though as we may go down the following season and don't want it to bite us on the arse. Likewise we may be in admin in 20 years time and wouldn't want someone on the internet who we've never met or care about bringing up how arrogant we were in the good old days.
This has become a discussion about clubs and support rather than teams. They'll do well this year and if they go up they'll struggle as they're biggest threat is marshall who's a loanee and I'm more than confident he's not going to get a sniff with wiggins around. I'd take a draw as it's another game ticked off and were still be top whatever happpens.
Not too bad at this stage, hopefully a few more sold early next week and some walk ups, we might exceed the Sheff Utd turnout which for our standards is respectable.
Not Ill informed one bit, might not be the case now but it was and you all know it.
Actually it is ill informed but an understandable mistake for someone from Yorkshire to make.
House prices in SE London (and London generally) were such that many of us (and I am exhibit A) were forced to migrate into kent in order to purchase a reasonable amount of living space to bring up our families.
Selhurst Park, although geographically only about 8 miles from The Valley, can take an extra 2 hours to get to from Kent. Hence many Kentish exiles "lapsed" or became irregular.
Once we returned to The Valley and developed it the buses, known as Valley Express, were brought in to facilitate travel from known areas fans were exiled to. Part of the reasoning behind this was to satisfy the anti- motorist sentiments of Greenwich Council thus facilitating planning permission.
Some new fans were picked up but the majority were lapsed as described to the extent that Medway, which is about 30 odd miles from The Valley, became one of the highest areas for season ticket holders.
It's probably true that Valley Express was cited in the planning application for the unbuilt east stand extension, but not that it was part of the reasoning for introducing it (in 2004, after all other relevant permissions had been obtained). It's also true that the majority of passengers have always been existing Charlton fans living in Kent; Medway is significant but the DA postcodes which straddle the M25 have about three times the Medway numbers. Maidstone apart, Valley Express does best in TN and CT postcodes.
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It does say £13 concessions as well, but doesn't say what concessions are.
Print off the thread on Owlstalk and show that. There's no way they will think you're over 17 :-)
I'm finding all this a bit of a show up. Yes they are a bigger club no question no comparison.
However where they have stagnated we have gone from a club struggling to attact 7,000 in Division 2 on a regular basis to a club that is attracting 16,000 in the 3rd division. We are at the lowest i have seen the club in my lifetime but that kind of progress on attendances will do for me.
I'm also a little less cocky than the rest because I know Charlton let do our gloating and taunting at the end of the season when we have achieved sometihng rather than now when it could all still blow up in our face
brilliant ha ha
Thanks, Airman.
Hope we'll make it into 4 figures soon.