I lived in Sheffield for 6 years and it certainly isnt a hovel - infact outside of kensington the hallamshire area has the highest disposable income coefficiant in the country.
Now by sheff wednesdays ground aint pretty but thats hillsborough, its like calling London a shit hole just because you've only ever been to stratford. A 10 min drive from the city centre and your in the peak district, your half hour from leeds 1 hr from manc 1 hr from nottingham
Think you're all gettin confused between sheffield and places like glossop/oldham/stockport/most of liverpool as desolate areas where everyone is on benefits, sheffield is a great city with an excellent future - it has one of the highest retention rates of uni grads who study in the citys two universities in the country.
Actually, I have spent a lot of time in Sheffield for work and would agree that it isn't a hovel either. Has its rough parts but so does London. Has its nice parts too.
I quite like Sheffield, proper northern industrial town sadly wrecked by Thatcher.
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Coal and steel, once upon a time long ago this country had steel mills and coal mines all over the place, that was until the Grantham slasher had other ideas.
Think you're all gettin confused between sheffield and places like glossop/oldham/stockport/most of liverpool as desolate areas where everyone is on benefits, sheffield is a great city with an excellent future - it has one of the highest retention rates of uni grads who study in the citys two universities in the country.
Is there really a northern town called Glossop? Sounds too awful to be true. Something must be done!
Kent, jesus if it wasn't bad enough playing for you lot ;-)
Sheffield is the greenest city in Europe and we sit on the edge of the Peak National Park.
Hey, you dropped an 'owler there, Owlie.
Kent? Pikey country around Gillingham can, lets be generous, be an aquired taste. But the rest of the very green 'Garden of England' (as it was always known) draws accolades far and wide for it's beauty and attractiveness.
But you won't appreciate much of it from driving along the motorway.
Go and explore the real Kent. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
As you say Gillingham leaves a lot to be desired, sadly I doubt I will never get to see the "real" Kent unless I get to the Open next time it's down there.
The thing is with most places is that whenever people call it a hovel/shithole etc then the locals will defend it, i suspect we like where we live depsite it's deficiencies and wouldn't have it any other way.
Sheffield has some bloody horrible areas but as I said it sits on the edge of the Peak District so within a ten minute drive there is some stunning countryside and areas to enjoy.
So after a vast sway, the majority of us agree that we now all love Sheffield........................all apart from Danny addick who started this off by calling sheffield a hovel.
I am one of the few on here who never had a bad word to say about the bloke, to me he was absolutely player of the season last year, and should probably have been the year before that too. I think he is a terrific player and can't fault his effort on the pitch whilst he was with us.
Sadly he ruined that by spouting all that garbage about wanting to sign for life and loving the club before jumping ship as soon as his lucrative contract ended. 4 months ago he was crying after scoring a goal and telling everyone he wanted to stay for life...4 months later he is off to Sheff Wed! Sadly that tarnishes it for me and drags him down to the also runs.
Plenty of former players like Jonjo I would happily clap on their return but not Semedo any more.
What would you do if you won player of the season and then recieved a contract offer with a 50% decrease in wages? I dont blame him despite what he said, good luck jose
So after a vast sway, the majority of us agree that we now all love Sheffield........................all apart from Danny addick who started this off by calling sheffield a hovel.
BIG GROUP HUG.
All the important profound stuff I say on here and me saying Sheffield is a hovel is the one that turns into a conversation
I quite like Sheffield, proper northern industrial town sadly wrecked by Thatcher.
???
Coal and steel, once upon a time long ago this country had steel mills and coal mines all over the place, that was until the Grantham slasher had other ideas.
And you think Thatcher made the extraction of coal uneconomic, or that cheaper steel from Korea Australia etc wasnt to blame? If what you say was based in reality, why didnt the following Labour administrations re-start these activities. While you are spouting nonsense, please dont forget to ''blame Thatcher'' for the decline of the car industry.
Do you get you view on the British economy from a repeat of the Young Ones?
And you think Thatcher made the extraction of coal uneconomic, or that cheaper steel from Korea Australia etc wasnt to blame? If what you say was based in reality, why didnt the following Labour administrations re-start these activities. While you are spouting nonsense, please dont forget to ''blame Thatcher'' for the decline of the car industry.
You are right Floyd, it wasn't that black and white.
I think the problem with Thatcher was more to do with the ruthless and inhuman way she dealt with these issues.
I quite like Sheffield, proper northern industrial town sadly wrecked by Thatcher.
???
Coal and steel, once upon a time long ago this country had steel mills and coal mines all over the place, that was until the Grantham slasher had other ideas.
And you think Thatcher made the extraction of coal uneconomic, or that cheaper steel from Korea Australia etc wasnt to blame? If what you say was based in reality, why didnt the following Labour administrations re-start these activities. While you are spouting nonsense, please dont forget to ''blame Thatcher'' for the decline of the car industry.
Do you get you view on the British economy from a repeat of the Young Ones?
Perhaps if she'd lined up some jobs for them it might not have been so bad?
Importing cheap steel, cars and everything else might look good on paper but two decades plus later we are still grappling with the problem of high unemployment and the benefit culture that it bequeathed us.
West Ham United manager Sam Allardyce has accused former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher of "killing football".
Allardyce has hit out at policies implemented by Thatcher's Conservative governments during the 1980s, expressing his belief that the decisions have created an unproductive environment for youth to exercise whilst developing their skills.
He told the Sun: "Since Margaret Thatcher stopped teachers being paid extra money for coaching sports after school, all sporting activities have diminished on a competitive basis.
"Kids are now more obese and unfit than ever. All the prime young athletes we were ready to develop just aren't there, so we get a lesser quality of player. It has not just undermined our game, it has undermined many sports in this country and created an unhealthy child. Thatcher killed football, there is no doubt about it."
I quite like Sheffield, proper northern industrial town sadly wrecked by Thatcher.
???
Coal and steel, once upon a time long ago this country had steel mills and coal mines all over the place, that was until the Grantham slasher had other ideas.
And you think Thatcher made the extraction of coal uneconomic, or that cheaper steel from Korea Australia etc wasnt to blame? If what you say was based in reality, why didnt the following Labour administrations re-start these activities. While you are spouting nonsense, please dont forget to ''blame Thatcher'' for the decline of the car industry.
Do you get you view on the British economy from a repeat of the Young Ones?
Nice one Floyd, so we produced coal cheaper than most our rivals with more efficent mines. Cheaper than France or Germany, but subsidies are bang out of order. Buying coal from countries, which at that time had awful records towards their workers was cheaper. Sure coal mining had to be reduced in this country, but the decisions made then were not economic ones but ideological ones. Whilst Friedman can spout about complete free market economics, strange how every industry he uses as examples get HUGE subsidies..... pharma, financial and the car industry. Thatcher followed the economic zeitgeist, perhaps it was best she had to do it. Doubt you'd think that if you lived in a Yorkshire mining village. Great to have a bit of empathy.
Strange how Germany, France and the US massively subsidise their coal industry and have scaled back gradually; indeed I believe the US scaled up during the Bush years. It's quite idiotic to state 'economics' when your supposition is impossible due to Thatcher's actions. Mines can be opened at the whim of a politican!!!!!! Billions of pounds of equipment were dumped, mines flood pretty quick over time. Once a mine is closed the investment needed would only be called for in the face of an unprecedented economic/energy crisis. Not when you're buying more expensive coal from heavily subsidised rivals, or cheaper coal from Chile and it's woeful safety record. If you believe free market zealots that it's all about economics, invest like a fuckwhit and socialise your losses only if you've got an SW postcode mind.
Think you're all gettin confused between sheffield and places like glossop/oldham/stockport/most of liverpool as desolate areas where everyone is on benefits, sheffield is a great city with an excellent future - it has one of the highest retention rates of uni grads who study in the citys two universities in the country.
Is there really a northern town called Glossop? Sounds too awful to be true. Something must be done!
I shit thee not, there is a place called Spittal-On-the-street.
Lovers of the Chicago School of Economics should remember that Friedman and others later conceded that they were wrong. The massive unemployment we had in the 1980s was paid for by North Sea oil revenues which were scandalously wasted, we blew the greatest opportunity we had to modernise our social infrastructure and invest in the future of the nation. I know that because it was mentioned during an episode of the Young Ones...
Other nations invested these types of windfalls into Sovereign Funds and consequently have released the money slowly into the economy since. We kept 3.5 million people on the dole.
Trickle down economics does not work. If you want a further example look at the US, it's around ten years since the Bush jnr tax-cuts and as a consequence of that and de-regulation of the finance and credit markets they have massive unemployment, record budget deficits and a recession. According to the supply siders they should be experiencing an economic boom. Hasn't worked though has it?
Trickle away economics simply do not work, but they do make rich people wealthier.
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I lived in Sheffield for 6 years and it certainly isnt a hovel - infact outside of kensington the hallamshire area has the highest disposable income coefficiant in the country.
Now by sheff wednesdays ground aint pretty but thats hillsborough, its like calling London a shit hole just because you've only ever been to stratford. A 10 min drive from the city centre and your in the peak district, your half hour from leeds 1 hr from manc 1 hr from nottingham
Think you're all gettin confused between sheffield and places like glossop/oldham/stockport/most of liverpool as desolate areas where everyone is on benefits, sheffield is a great city with an excellent future - it has one of the highest retention rates of uni grads who study in the citys two universities in the country.
Coal and steel, once upon a time long ago this country had steel mills and coal mines all over the place, that was until the Grantham slasher had other ideas.
So that would be this year then Owlie?
BIG GROUP HUG.
i got turned on but i dont think they were that impressed by my moonwalk.
All the important profound stuff I say on here and me saying Sheffield is a hovel is the one that turns into a conversation
Seriously? Were they asleep during that era?
If what you say was based in reality, why didnt the following Labour administrations re-start these activities.
While you are spouting nonsense, please dont forget to ''blame Thatcher'' for the decline of the car industry.
Do you get you view on the British economy from a repeat of the Young Ones?
Maggie Thatcher shrunk the kids - FACT!
I know because I've got the press cutting on my kitchen noticeboard (I shit thee not http://www.thefreelibrary.com/MAGGIE+MILK+BAN+SHRUNK+THE+KIDS%3B+Poorest+pupils+8ins+smaller+than...-a061102325)
Perhaps if she'd lined up some jobs for them it might not have been so bad?
Importing cheap steel, cars and everything else might look good on paper but two decades plus later we are still grappling with the problem of high unemployment and the benefit culture that it bequeathed us.
West Ham United manager Sam Allardyce has accused former British Prime
Minister Margaret Thatcher of "killing football".
Allardyce has hit out at policies implemented by Thatcher's Conservative
governments during the 1980s, expressing his belief that the decisions have
created an unproductive environment for youth to exercise whilst developing
their skills.
He told the Sun: "Since Margaret Thatcher stopped teachers being paid extra
money for coaching sports after school, all sporting activities have diminished
on a competitive basis.
"Kids are now more obese and unfit than ever. All the prime young athletes we
were ready to develop just aren't there, so we get a lesser quality of player.
It has not just undermined our game, it has undermined many sports in this
country and created an unhealthy child. Thatcher killed football, there is no
doubt about it."
That's one of the things i love about it.
Nice one Floyd, so we produced coal cheaper than most our rivals with more efficent mines. Cheaper than France or Germany, but subsidies are bang out of order. Buying coal from countries, which at that time had awful records towards their workers was cheaper. Sure coal mining had to be reduced in this country, but the decisions made then were not economic ones but ideological ones. Whilst Friedman can spout about complete free market economics, strange how every industry he uses as examples get HUGE subsidies..... pharma, financial and the car industry. Thatcher followed the economic zeitgeist, perhaps it was best she had to do it. Doubt you'd think that if you lived in a Yorkshire mining village. Great to have a bit of empathy.
Strange how Germany, France and the US massively subsidise their coal industry and have scaled back gradually; indeed I believe the US scaled up during the Bush years. It's quite idiotic to state 'economics' when your supposition is impossible due to Thatcher's actions. Mines can be opened at the whim of a politican!!!!!! Billions of pounds of equipment were dumped, mines flood pretty quick over time. Once a mine is closed the investment needed would only be called for in the face of an unprecedented economic/energy crisis. Not when you're buying more expensive coal from heavily subsidised rivals, or cheaper coal from Chile and it's woeful safety record. If you believe free market zealots that it's all about economics, invest like a fuckwhit and socialise your losses only if you've got an SW postcode mind.
I shit thee not, there is a place called Spittal-On-the-street.
Lovers of the Chicago School of Economics should remember that Friedman and others later conceded that they were wrong. The massive unemployment we had in the 1980s was paid for by North Sea oil revenues which were scandalously wasted, we blew the greatest opportunity we had to modernise our social infrastructure and invest in the future of the nation. I know that because it was mentioned during an episode of the Young Ones...
Other nations invested these types of windfalls into Sovereign Funds and consequently have released the money slowly into the economy since. We kept 3.5 million people on the dole.
Trickle down economics does not work. If you want a further example look at the US, it's around ten years since the Bush jnr tax-cuts and as a consequence of that and de-regulation of the finance and credit markets they have massive unemployment, record budget deficits and a recession. According to the supply siders they should be experiencing an economic boom. Hasn't worked though has it?
Trickle away economics simply do not work, but they do make rich people wealthier.
Its scandalous they were thrown on the scrapheap.