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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    I don't like this one at all, very worrying :

    22 Jul 2010 12:57:16
    Liverpool are closing in on the signing of Charlton Athletic starlet Jordan Cousins, the England U16 team captain. A source close to the club explained that following Jonjo Shelvey's signing, and the arrival of Roy Hodgson, and the rulings regarding homegrown players means the club will be looking to sign more English youngsters, means that Cousins is an ideal target for Liverpool. Cousins is also a close friend of Jonjo Shelvey, and Liverpool staff were disappointed that Cousins did not appear in the recent U18 friendly between the two clubs as he is already with the Charlton first team. Cousins recently signed a pro contract agreement with Charlton but this is not seen as an issue. The fee is thought to be in the region of 3 million pounds, including appearance clauses, meaning the whole sum wouldn't be paid up front.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    [quote][cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]I don't like this one at all, very worrying :
    [/quote]

    It's Football Rumours FFS.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]I don't like this one at all, very worrying :

    22 Jul 2010 12:57:16
    Liverpool are closing in on the signing of Charlton Athletic starlet Jordan Cousins, the England U16 team captain. A source close to the club explained that following Jonjo Shelvey's signing, and the arrival of Roy Hodgson, and the rulings regarding homegrown players means the club will be looking to sign more English youngsters, means that Cousins is an ideal target for Liverpool. Cousins is also a close friend of Jonjo Shelvey, and Liverpool staff were disappointed that Cousins did not appear in the recent U18 friendly between the two clubs as he is already with the Charlton first team. Cousins recently signed a pro contract agreement with Charlton but this is not seen as an issue. The fee is thought to be in the region of 3 million pounds, including appearance clauses, meaning the whole sum wouldn't be paid up front.

    I downloaded that video with a few highlights from that game and I'm pretty sure he is there playing centre back in the first half.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Cousins hasnt signed a pro deal he isnt old enough. Just an agreement in principle to sign one. So that part is wrong.

    All of this wild speculation is just that. Speculation. Last week Racon was off to Palace. This week Jose and Jordan are going.

    Chill people.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Well said Henry.

    Far be it from me to claim it's CL members posting these 'rumours' to get a response on this thread.

    But if it is, please stop.

    Some have been humorous - like the fictitious Kris Bierhoff - but the Semedo and Cousins posts are annoying.
  • adamtheaddick
    adamtheaddick Posts: 8,664
    Getting my haircut tomorrow so will update you on all the latest rumours from the oracle that is paul the barber, he was spot on last time about waggy snr and a few other details so can't wait..
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    [cite]Posted By: Clem_Snide[/cite]Cousins hasnt signed a pro deal he isnt old enough. Just an agreement in principle to sign one. So that part is wrong.

    All of this wild speculation is just that. Speculation. Last week Racon was off to Palace. This week Jose and Jordan are going.

    Chill people.

    It SAYS pro contract agreement...
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    3 Million for a kid who hasnt played a competitive first team game isnt that bad to be honest.

    I know we should be keeping our youth. Shelvey. McGinley both gone last season to top 4 teams. But it isnt a bad deal
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,334
    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]and the rulings regarding homegrown players means the club will be looking to sign more English youngsters

    I thought this idea has been ditched
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    cafcbourne - if Semedos job is so easy why is he the best holding midfielder we've had since Parker!!
    Semedo is our most important player IMO. 400k would leave me truly livid
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  • scruffle
    scruffle Posts: 2,282
    [cite]Posted By: thai malaysia addick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]and the rulings regarding homegrown players means the club will be looking to sign more English youngsters

    I thought this idea has been ditched

    it has as its illegal, just another example of FIFA thinking they rule the world
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8733164.stm
    I think that's a different rule, going by that.
    Fifa has said it will scrap plans for a minimum of six "home-grown" players in clubs' starting line-ups.

    The so-called "6+5" rule had been expected to be brought in by 2012 but has now been abandoned.

    but it also says
    From next season, the Premier League will bring in a system where there must be eight home-grown players in squad of 25.
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    I wasn't too bothered by losing Bailey because what you got for the goals you lost in the poor distribution but losing Semedo will have me distraught. I love the way he battles and rarely wastes a ball. A very dependable player. £250K pah!
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    If we sell Semedo for around 400k Sporting will get 50% of it so it wont be anything around that. 400k is nothing for Semedo anyway. £1.75M for Semedo so we'd get 875k for him at least. We wont sell him, if we do we can forget having such a good season as we have thought we could lately. Semedo is our most important player IMO.
  • adamtheaddick
    adamtheaddick Posts: 8,664
    Matt lawrence was on talksport tonight, got let go from palace, not sure how old he is maybe 35ish but could be a useful player, seemed like a real charlton player the way he spoke and would fit in perfectly, can play rb and lb and cb so very versatile.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]Matt lawrence was on talksport tonight, got let go from palace, not sure how old he is maybe 35ish but could be a useful player, seemed like a real charlton player the way he spoke and would fit in perfectly, can play rb and lb and cb so very versatile.

    36. Given Dailly's 37 in October, Llera's 31 soon, Doc is 31 in January and Jon Fortune (if he signs) is 30 in August, I'd rather not have him.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Doherty, Dailly and Lawrence would have a combined age of 342 years. What's John Humphrey doing these days ;0)
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    [cite]Posted By: Sage[/cite]If we sell Semedo for around 400k Sporting will get 50% of it so it wont be anything around that. 400k is nothing for Semedo anyway. £1.75M for Semedo so we'd get 875k for him at least. We wont sell him, if we do we can forget having such a good season as we have thought we could lately. Semedo is our most important player IMO.
    Where was that confirmed? (apart from Football Manager, the Sporting researcher would have added it)
  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    Jeez, he's in the matt harold/feeney bracket of players I really do not want to sign.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Scoham; I remember reading it a while back on a few different websites and it has been confirmed by the offical site too. You can ask the editor of the OS too, he'll confirm it. It was all part of the Semedo deal when we signed him from Sporting as he was young and playing in Portugal Under 21's, they were hoping for something special.
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  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    Hope its not true about Jose, but I have been thinking we have quite a few players in CM and 3 of them are holding players. Stav Semedo and McCormack (Correct me if I have him wrong). Then there is Racon and Jackson, I was thinking this meant wed go 5 in midfield maybe. Stav is earning good reviews so maybe he will step up if Jose goes.

    lets hope Jose stays
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Chilvers is tipped to join Notts County on Sky . If we sign Fortune then a CB is not needed.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Glen Little has signed for Aldershot.

    Always liked him. Playef for Sheff Utd last year. Good signing.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    All gone quiet on the signings front hasn't it? The flurry of players last week raised expectations.
    Reckon players like Francis have been offered a deal but are biding their time to see if a more lucrative contract is out there.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    50% would be an enormous sell on fee, and it would normally only be on the profit from a sale not the total.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Semedo came on a Bosman didn't he ?
  • Merty111
    Merty111 Posts: 218
    i will sacrifice a football to the mighty god of transfer praying that he aid's our club to find the resources to keep semedo
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Not massively concerned by the lack of ins this week. Will be getting jittery if the squad is no bigger this time next week.

    Hopefully 3/4 in before first game and the rest to follow before the window closes.
  • Stebo
    Stebo Posts: 790
    i can only assume that Semedo wasn't out of contract but Sporting but let us have him for free but with a sell-on clause. if he was a bosman then there no reason why there would be a sell-on clause.
  • chablis addick
    chablis addick Posts: 269
    Considering the scale of the upheavals, I'd be happier if we had a few more in place to face Barnet on Saturday. That would allow for 3 games for them to gel before the start of the season.
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