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2022-23 UEFA Europa & Europa Conference League

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  • Will Moyes become the first manager to be sacked despite winning a European trophy?

    I can't see West Ham winning the Sevilla Cup.
    Different competition 
  • Will Moyes become the first manager to be sacked despite winning a European trophy?

    I can't see West Ham winning the Sevilla Cup.
    Sevilla are kings of the Europa league. West ham are in the (much worse) Europa conference league.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Will Moyes become the first manager to be sacked despite winning a European trophy?

    I can't see West Ham winning the Sevilla Cup.
    Different competition 

    That's the reason I can't see West ham winning the Sevilla cup !

    The Hammers have a good chance in the Also-rans Conference with AZ Alkmaar in the semi and possibly Fiorentina in the Final if they see off Basel or Nice.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    edited April 2023
    West Ham fans must be loving it as they've had some great away days. In the knock outs they've been to Cyprus, Belgium and now get to go to Holland.

    Then the final if they get there is in Prague (although the stadium only holds 19k so hardly any chance of most fans getting a ticket). 

    On that note, i know it's the lesser of all the Euro competitions but holding a final in a 19k stadium is stupid. Especially as the sides who reach the final of this competition will quite likely not have had much (or any) European success and will have loads of fans wanting to go to a final.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    West Ham fans must be loving it as they've had some great away days. In the knock outs they've been to Cyprus, Belgium and now get to go to Holland.

    Then the final if they get there is in Prague (although the stadium only holds 19k so hardly any chance of most fans getting a ticket). 

    On that note, i know it's the lesser of all the Euro competitions but holding a final in a 19k stadium is stupid. Especially as the sides who reach the final of this competition will quite likely not have had much (or any) European success and will have loads of fans wanting to go to a final.
    Agreed, an odd choice of stadium. It's as if UEFA are trying to downplay their own competition
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    edited April 2023

    Europa League quarter-final draw

    Manchester United v Sevilla

    Juventus v Sporting Lisbon

    Bayer Leverkusen v Union Saint-Gilloise

    Feyenoord v Roma

    Europa League semi-final draw

    Juventus or Sporting Lisbon v Manchester United or Sevilla

    Feyenoord or Roma v Bayer Leverkusen or Union Saint-Gilloise

    Europa Conference League quarter-final draw

    Lech Poznan v Fiorentina

    Gent v West Ham

    AZ Alkmaar v Anderlecht

    Basel v Nice

    Europa Conference League semi-final draw

    Lech Poznan or Fiorentina v Basel or Nice

    Gent or West Ham v AZ Alkmaar or Anderlecht



    Europa:

    Juventus v Sevilla
    Roma v Leverkusen

    Conference:

    Fiorentina v Basel
    West Ham v AZ Alkmaar
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,972
    Will Moyes become the first manager to be sacked despite winning a European trophy?

    I can't see West Ham winning the Sevilla Cup.
    Sevilla are kings of the Europa league. West ham are in the (much worse) Europa conference league.
    Didn’t West Ham get to the semi final of that competition last year?….beating Seville in the process I believe 
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    Funny walking into the bar this morning for my coffee, and the waiter looked at me, raised his eyebrows and said 'why do they persist with Maguire?'

    My reply that he was beyond mere United resident, and was a go to defender for the national team raised a smile. 

    A bit like Charlton's performance at ipswich, that game in Seville last night was so poor from Man Utd it seems unfair to poit a finger at any one player when they were schooled, but I'm sure more than one United fan this morning will be drawing comparisons between the mistakes Maguire makes and our very own Ryan Inniss. And yes, the first one was also created by De Gea who's hospital pass was a thing of beauty for the Seville attackers.

    ....over to you Leuth  :)
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    Will Moyes become the first manager to be sacked despite winning a European trophy?

    I can't see West Ham winning the Sevilla Cup.
    Its not the same competition.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    Will Moyes become the first manager to be sacked despite winning a European trophy?
    Well, Keith Burkinshaw resigned from Spurs after winning the UEFA Cup in 1984, because the then chairman wanted a say in what players were bought and sold.  So in this day and age, Burkinshaw probably could say he had a constructive dismissal case.
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I still can't believe how poor United were last night.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    I still can't believe how poor United were last night.
    I can, English football has been in decline this season, Man City the best team by far, with Arsenal showing spirit and youthful exuberance to challenge them for the title, but when the rest have been so poor domestically it was bound to show up in Europe too.

    Of the 12 semi finalists:
    5 are from Italy
    2 from Spain
    2 from England
    1 from Germany
    1 from The Netherlands
    1 from Switzerland

    Italian players weren't at the World Cup this year too, maybe their domestic teams benefited slightly from that too
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Two of our CL teams this season, Chelsea and Liverpool have been really poor all round.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Roma and Mourinho follow up winning the Europa Conference League last year by making the final of the Europa League this season. 


    West Ham are into the final of this seasons Europa Conference League. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Is the Conference final in a tiny stadium? A real shame for the fans
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,981
    Sheff W game 100 x better than the W Ham game.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,972
    Fiorentina just scored in the 129th minute to get to the final.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    Seville in the final again. Yawn. Still, having watched them get there over and over again, at least it'll add interest to the final as I'll be behind whoever they are playing.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    Is the Conference final in a tiny stadium? A real shame for the fans
    Fortuna Arena in Prague. 19,000 capacity.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    Italy have a (albeit slim) chance of winning all 3 European cups this season, mental
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited May 2023
    AZ fans cause trouble in the stands after losing to West Ham

    English fans are only ever the problem though!!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65642241
  • IT_Andy
    IT_Andy Posts: 477
    edited May 2023
    Just read about fighting in the Alkmaar stadium. Did wonder about possible trouble at the match after seeing a bloke in Millwall shirt, supporting Alkmaar.

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,972
    Declan Rice was once again phenomenal tonight. Easily one of the best midfielders this country has ever produced. 
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,588
    Just seen all the footage of the AZ Alkmaar ‘ultras’ (I hate that word) storming the players family area after the game.

    Fair fecks to those West Ham lads at the top of the stairs, doing the stewards/police jobs for them.

    Awful scenes.

    It really does seem the Dutch authorities have no control of their risk groups. Be interesting to see what sanctions (if any) they face after this debacle.

    Don’t think those Irons will ever have to buy a pint again.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    No idea if AZ had any kind of reputation for trouble but if they did then it's pretty much ruined this morning, as they'll now be a laughing stock. 50 or so idiots all dressed in black couldn't fight their way past 2 big West ham fans on the stairs.

    West Ham should give free final tickets to those guys defending the family enclosure.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    Heard them referring to something similar but with West Ham fans last week, but I haven't seen anything reported on that ?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    No idea if AZ had any kind of reputation for trouble but if they did then it's pretty much ruined this morning, as they'll now be a laughing stock. 50 or so idiots all dressed in black couldn't fight their way past 2 big West ham fans on the stairs.

    West Ham should give free final tickets to those guys defending the family enclosure.
    Ha ha - just seen one fat bloke holding off the Alkmaar fans
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    MrOneLung said:
    Heard them referring to something similar but with West Ham fans last week, but I haven't seen anything reported on that ?
    A dutch journalist/football expert was interviewed by Brazil & McCoist on Talksport this morning, apparently something happened at the London Stadium that didn't go down too well with the Dutchies and hadn't been well publicised and Brazil said he'd heard the same...  even so, no bloody need for it.  I discovered a new found respect for West Ham and their players piling into the stand like that.
    Declan Rice was once again phenomenal tonight. Easily one of the best midfielders this country has ever produced. 
    3-4 years ago, I couldn't see what you could clearly see.  I couldn't see the fuss at all.  Blimey, he's properly blossomed into one hell of a midfielder now.  Now, I'll say this while I'm at it.  I couldn't bloody believe it when Paqueta went there in the summer.  I was hoping Spurs were going to go for him.  He was brilliant at Lyon (ironically, his partnership with Ndombele at Lyon was their heartbeat and I has a vision of them turning it on at Spurs).  He's looking like he's finally found his feet and has settled now and he's going to be a force to be reckoned with next season.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    Videos are absolutely mental, the 2 geezers in there 50s were absolute units, pinging the Dutch blokes for fun on the stairs lol.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    MrOneLung said:
    No idea if AZ had any kind of reputation for trouble but if they did then it's pretty much ruined this morning, as they'll now be a laughing stock. 50 or so idiots all dressed in black couldn't fight their way past 2 big West ham fans on the stairs.

    West Ham should give free final tickets to those guys defending the family enclosure.
    Ha ha - just seen one fat bloke holding off the Alkmaar fans
    He's fighting Tyson Fury at the O2 next month