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Sport in the aftermath - What should happen? (EFL fixtures resume Tues 13th Sept - p20)

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  • From a practical point of view, I can see that London matches just before the funeral may be an issue. Brentford and Chelsea for example are at home on Sunday 18th, whereas the games at Everton and Man U have no impact on funeral preparations
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    I personally would like to see sport continue, partly because it’s a great vehicle to show respect in itself. 

    Tens of thousands of people together in every city to belt out the national anthem before a game - what could be a better display of recognition than that? 

    Going to football, seeing friends / family, having a beer in a pub - they’re the things that make our country what it is. 

    On the other hand, if it all gets called off then I understand the argument that this is a one off event and that we can’t just half-arse it. 

    My personal view is that it should be used as a chance to encourage people to go out and celebrate the Queen’s life and British past-times, rather than restrict things. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,840
    All football matches should be cancelled as a mark of respect. 

    People can go and have whatever other "fun" they want elsewhere, that's entirely up to them, but the football authorities should take the decision to cancel today, as early as possible, to give clarity and allow people to plan accordingly.

    That's my personal opinion and is not something I wish to debate.
  • I think the point made earlier about the potentially thousands who will flock to London over the weekend is also key to matches down south being played (from a policing perspective)
  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,367
    I'm not sure what the argument here. Even those who want football called off are not suggesting people can't have fun. What's more disrespectful, standing in a crowd of thousands, showing a meaningful display of respect through silence and singing of the national anthem, or going to the cinema and watching a rom com? There are people on here who are seriously suggesting the former shouldn't be allowed, whilst perfectly happy with the latter. Bizarre
    plus the Queen loved her sport. Admittedly, not football
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,726
    I'm not sure what the argument here. Even those who want football called off are not suggesting people can't have fun. What's more disrespectful, standing in a crowd of thousands, showing a meaningful display of respect through silence and singing of the national anthem, or going to the cinema and watching a rom com? There are people on here who are seriously suggesting the former shouldn't be allowed, whilst perfectly happy with the latter. Bizarre
    Exactly. Can go to Fabric this weekend but not to The Valley. Where's the logic?
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,592
    I'm supposed to be at The Goodwood Revival next weekend. Would imagine it will still go ahead if the funeral is on Monday but can't see they'll have any other option but to cancel if it's Saturday. They and local businesses will lose an absolute fortune if it is cancelled, thousands of people from across the world are due to attend and all the hotels anywhere near the place have been booked up for months.
  • I find it odd that in remembering the life of a woman whose ethos was that work comes first and you have to get on with things, we are all heading into another tunnel of doom and showing who can mourn the hardest.

    Surely, if you feel that going to football is disrespectful, fine, then don't go. But I agree with posters who have said that a proper minutes silence can be amazing.

    Mind you it's my mates 40th all day tomorrow so have to go to that so on selfish grounds I'm fine if it's postponed. But it shouldn't be.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    The games should go ahead this week out of respect for the Queen and all should stood for.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899
    I would postpone everything until Saturday and a public holiday for the funeral. I am a monarchist and have the greatest admiration for what the Queen has achieved but I am not sure that it would be her wish for anything more ..keep calm and carry on .


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  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Off_it said:
    All football matches should be cancelled as a mark of respect. 

    People can go and have whatever other "fun" they want elsewhere, that's entirely up to them, but the football authorities should take the decision to cancel today, as early as possible, to give clarity and allow people to plan accordingly.

    That's my personal opinion and is not something I wish to debate.
    Not something i wish to debate, but post on a public forum regarding a topic of debate? 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Off_it said:
    All football matches should be cancelled as a mark of respect. 

    People can go and have whatever other "fun" they want elsewhere, that's entirely up to them, but the football authorities should take the decision to cancel today, as early as possible, to give clarity and allow people to plan accordingly.

    That's my personal opinion and is not something I wish to debate.
    Not something i wish to debate, but post on a public forum regarding a topic of debate? 
    Reckon they just mean they're not gonna bother debating it with anyone, as in, responding to quotes. Could be wrong though
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,840
    Off_it said:
    All football matches should be cancelled as a mark of respect. 

    People can go and have whatever other "fun" they want elsewhere, that's entirely up to them, but the football authorities should take the decision to cancel today, as early as possible, to give clarity and allow people to plan accordingly.

    That's my personal opinion and is not something I wish to debate.
    Not something i wish to debate, but post on a public forum regarding a topic of debate? 
    I gave my opinion. That's all. I'm not arguing about it.
  • Maybe it should be left to personal choice. As I am approaching 69 years old, she was Queen for all my life. As much as I love my football, if games go on, I choose not to go. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Maybe it should be left to personal choice. As I am approaching 69 years old, she was Queen for all my life. As much as I love my football, if games go on, I choose not to go. 
    I wonder if the games go ahead how many fans wont go?
  • Matches should go ahead and silences observed, black armbands worn etc. As others have said the Queen was very much a get-up-and-get-on-with-it sort of person, and I don't think she would really want hundreds of thousands of people inconvenienced.    
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited September 2022
    Don’t cancel anything at all but mark events with a silence / applause / national anthem
    This. Final last sing of 'God save the queen' by fans across the land. 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    Croydon said:
    I'm not sure what the argument here. Even those who want football called off are not suggesting people can't have fun. What's more disrespectful, standing in a crowd of thousands, showing a meaningful display of respect through silence and singing of the national anthem, or going to the cinema and watching a rom com? There are people on here who are seriously suggesting the former shouldn't be allowed, whilst perfectly happy with the latter. Bizarre
    Exactly. Can go to Fabric this weekend but not to The Valley. Where's the logic?
    The only logic I can see is the aspect of crowd control, with tens of thousands of people flocking to London at the same time and the expectations on the police to handle it. 
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    All horse and Greyhound race meetings have been called off today.  But, racing will resume tomorrow. 
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,984
    Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    All football matches should be cancelled as a mark of respect. 

    People can go and have whatever other "fun" they want elsewhere, that's entirely up to them, but the football authorities should take the decision to cancel today, as early as possible, to give clarity and allow people to plan accordingly.

    That's my personal opinion and is not something I wish to debate.
    Not something i wish to debate, but post on a public forum regarding a topic of debate? 
    I gave my opinion. That's all. I'm not arguing about it.
    Yes you are.
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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    I don’t think you can pull either opinion up as being wrong.  For some, the occasion will be such that a more expansive period of mourning would be appropriate, for others they will pay their respects in their own way, but things should carry on.  

    Personally I’m in the latter, but if the football was cancelled then I would accept it.

    It’s hard to know where to draw the line.  I was at an external event for work y’day and even though we were aware of what was happening, we still went out with prospects and clients after the event for food and drink after the Queen had passed.  If you call off the sport, what’s to say it’s right to stop there
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,840
    RedPanda said:
    Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    All football matches should be cancelled as a mark of respect. 

    People can go and have whatever other "fun" they want elsewhere, that's entirely up to them, but the football authorities should take the decision to cancel today, as early as possible, to give clarity and allow people to plan accordingly.

    That's my personal opinion and is not something I wish to debate.
    Not something i wish to debate, but post on a public forum regarding a topic of debate? 
    I gave my opinion. That's all. I'm not arguing about it.
    Yes you are.
    Not the time or place for trolling and I'm not biting. Sorry.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,864
    I don't agree with cancelling anything. 

    Mourn for her in a normal respectful way.

    There will be plenty of things scheduled in the near future where we will celebrate her life and the great things she did.

    I believe in a minute's silence, followed by a minute's applause. 

    If we are to cancel things, then it needs to be fully arranged and organised. Not a last minute decision.  




  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    Gribbo said:
    Postpone everything during an official period of mourning.

    Think it's only right we observe something extraordinary so that this this doesn't just pass us by.
    Or, give people a chance to meet up with friends and family where they can reflect on her life together
  • Perhaps it is a generational thing. It will surely have a greater emotional impact on those of us that have lived throughout the 8 decades of her reign? I certainly feel as I have when I have lost aunts and uncles, for instance. 
    I don’t expect my children to have similar feelings to mine, and am quite comfortable for them to continue doing what is normal for them this weekend.
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    edited September 2022
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  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    I would be very surprised if any games go ahead this weekend. Probably the following weekend as well as I would imagine that will be when the funeral takes place.
  • I am quite surprised that its not far off 12pm and there still isn't a decision
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    edited September 2022
    Football should go ahead, with a minutes silence and the national anthem beforehand.

    Although cancelling would give us another week to get Aneke & Innis fit…
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    philcafc said:
    I would be very surprised if any games go ahead this weekend. Probably the following weekend as well as I would imagine that will be when the funeral takes place.
    Where does that end though? Do none of us have to go to work on Monday because the country is in mourning?