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2022 Six Nations

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  • kodfish
    kodfish Posts: 631
    Nick Tomkins who scored Wales‘a second try played for old elthamians as a kid. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Italys defeat against Ireland today will be their 35th consecutive loss in the six nations. Is it time that Italy were dropped from the competition ? It’s clearly way above the standard they can compete. No disgrace for Italy but it makes a mockery of the competition to have it so imbalanced. 
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Italys defeat against Ireland today will be their 35th consecutive loss in the six nations. Is it time that Italy were dropped from the competition ? It’s clearly way above the standard they can compete. No disgrace for Italy but it makes a mockery of the competition to have it so imbalanced. 
    Considering they only have 13 players they have held out quite well.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,219
    edited February 2022
    Should we revert back to a five nations tournament? Maybe the lesser nations could have a play off and see who else could join.

    Romania were very up and coming a few years ago, Georgia and Russia (maybe not) have been in the World Cup.

    Any other nations deemed strong enough?

    Went to the World Sevens in Las Vegas a few years and quite a few nations taking part, Spain and Portugal spring to mind but sevens is a different game to the 15 a side.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    LenGlover said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Italys defeat against Ireland today will be their 35th consecutive loss in the six nations. Is it time that Italy were dropped from the competition ? It’s clearly way above the standard they can compete. No disgrace for Italy but it makes a mockery of the competition to have it so imbalanced. 
    Considering they only have 13 players they have held out quite well.
    I agree Len but the Italians are simply not strong enough as a Rugby nation to compete at the Six Nations level. Harsh but a fact. 
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    I'd be in favour of a second tier Six Nations, with Top/Bottom automatic promotion and relegation, with play offs for the next best/worst teams.

    But also play at least one Autumn international against a second tier team.

    Off the top of my head, I'd suggest Spain, Germany, Georgia, Romania, Portugal and an invited Pacific Island nation (who I'd base somewhere like the Canaries).

    But, then again, I'd be doing something similar for the URC.

    Without that, you do more damage to the wider game by simply removing the Italians.

    World Rugby needs to encourage and develop weaker teams, and the only way to achieve that is regular games against better opposition.

    Italy today were mostly undone by numbers, but look at their levels of fitness, tackling ability and skills, they have improved beyond measure because of the Six Nations and, while they are getting hammered now, there have times when any of the other five nations were equally bad.

    Ireland has had a golden generation, but it won't forever, and a dose of humility is often good for us.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    NornIrishAddick said:
    I'd be in favour of a second tier Six Nations, with Top/Bottom automatic promotion and relegation, with play offs for the next best/worst teams.

    But also play at least one Autumn international against a second tier team.

    Off the top of my head, I'd suggest Spain, Germany, Georgia, Romania, Portugal and an invited Pacific Island nation (who I'd base somewhere like the Canaries).

    But, then again, I'd be doing something similar for the URC.

    Without that, you do more damage to the wider game by simply removing the Italians.

    World Rugby needs to encourage and develop weaker teams, and the only way to achieve that is regular games against better opposition.

    Italy today were mostly undone by numbers, but look at their levels of fitness, tackling ability and skills, they have improved beyond measure because of the Six Nations and, while they are getting hammered now, there have times when any of the other five nations were equally bad.

    Ireland has had a golden generation, but it won't forever, and a dose of humility is often good for us.
    South Africa are itching to become the 6th nation .. the fact is that Italy are getting worse. An article in today's Sunday Times, written by Italy's New Zealander coach who obviously has a vested interest, opines that if Italy lost their 6 nations spot, it would be the death of Italian rugby. The truth is that Italian rugby is in intensive care as it is
    France look terrific, Scotland after a good start are proving e too lightweight .. England despite a good forward performance against a struggling Wales, are clueless in attack .. they'll need 100% improvement allied to a proper selection by Ozzie Eddie Cobber Jones to get anything versus France and Ireland
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    FFS.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    Again. FFS.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Game over before 2 minutes! This could be a thrashing 
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,944
    Ireland are going to rack up a few here 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    It was stupid to get sent off. Can’t blame tiredness or anything else. Just stupid.
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,334
    Turned it off straight away. 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    At least we get 3 points.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,597
    Ireland making hard work of this. 15-9 HT
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671
    Letter of the law that’s a red card but it’s so stupidly soft. 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    England are playing really well. Just hope they’re strong enough to keep it up for 80.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,944
    North Lower Neil said:
    Ireland are going to rack up a few here 
    Happy to gave been proven wrong so far.

    Best I've seen England play in ages.
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,620
    kentred2 said:
    Turned it off straight away. 
    Regardless of the result, this has been great to watch
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    England have shown more bollox and fight today than Charlton have shown all season 
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,597
    Ireland ran out winners, think if it had been 15 a side, they might have been beaten. 
    Anyway come on England against France.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Well played England. Didn't deserve that scoreline given their efforts but so hard to keep up that intensity for 80 minutes. Weird thing is I doubt they will have played as well as that with 15 men. Definitely galvanised them.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,597
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Stupid getting sent off so early though. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,330
    I saw Pardew at the game today. 

    Twat. 
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    edited March 2022
    Well, Italy managed something a bit special there...

    Fantastic last gasp effort.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    NornIrishAddick said:
    Well, Italy managed something a bit special there...

    Fantastic last gasp effort.
    They were good all through I thought.
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    iainment said:
    NornIrishAddick said:
    Well, Italy managed something a bit special there...

    Fantastic last gasp effort.
    They were good all through I thought.
    Deserved win.

    I thought the captain was brilliant in his post game interview as well 
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,597
    KBslittlesis said:

    Hopefully, out for another photo later tonight.

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