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Even Paul Smyth would be a better option as a backup wide attacking player than what we currently have as backup to Washington and DJ, the likes of Clayden and Ghandour.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
The funny thing is alot of last season's squad players would get in our team now.Bedsaddick said:
I’d still have Williams back like a shot . We are desperate for some creativity in this current midfield.Chunes said:
They weren't on his list? Point being, he's comparing two signing in one league one window to a series of signing made in the championship.DamoNorthStand said:
Taylor, Cullen, Bielik, Williams…. Even Jamie Ward and Billy ClarkeChunes said:
Which of those were signed in league one?golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
As for the players you've just listed.
Cullen and Bielik were loans
Taylor was a great signing on a free.
Williams is shit.
Shinnie & Maddison are arguably better / more creative than what we have in their positions today.
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That’s my point. We’re buying players that are just above or even average. We need two or at least one top player every window. Certainly get players like Clare and Dobson in but players that get you promoted are going to cost. Hard fact of life.killerandflash said:
But who have we signed with the potential of a big transfer fee next summer? McG, Dobson and Clare are all solid L1 players, but none strike me as the sort of starlets that we could sell for a fat fee next summer if necessary, especially as all 3 are only on 2 year deals anyway, so will have just 1 year left next summerShootersHillGuru said:
Hear you but. If as you say DJ has a storming season then if you have to sell you sell from a position of strength a get 2 million pounds. Invest that in the team with two 1 million pound players. Getting out of this division is very difficult. We won’t do it with average to just above average players. There will be eight teams like that.killerandflash said:
By the time you've built your squad though, some of the better signings would already have been poachedShootersHillGuru said:Said it before that I thought the rebuild would need to take a few windows. Build a real quality first eleven and decent alternatives. Much prefer signing two really good players each window and getting there over three windows. Fill in gaps with loans until the quality is reached.
Say DJ has a storming season as we finish 8th. Next summer there'll be interested from Championship clubs, not least the newly promoted ones from L1.
Modern football doesn't allow much time to build sides2 -
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I heard it was £3.5mMacronate said:
£4.4m, Jesus wept.Dazzler21 said:Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
Care free signings are as dangerous as too few.
Players sold:
Joe Gomez £4.4m
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Cannot believe the number of unhappy people on here. We are in my opinion in a much better position than we have been for years. A engaged and enthusiastic owner who I don’t think anyone can argue against is laying solid foundations for the club to improve
A experienced and successful manager with a good back room staff.
I think we have made excellent acquisitions for this level so far and every confidence there will be more before the window shuts
Good academy players coming through who may not be ready to play a significant part in the first team yet but the future looks bright
And yet after a perfectly acceptable first league game and I agree a poor cup performance people are looking at relegation odds having a pop at the owner and manager writing off the new signings and the academy players and generally going into meltdown
I am not saying we will blow through this league but am confident we will be in the promotion picture at the end of the season
come on people less negatively on here COYR26 -
No idea, that’s why I’m askingaddick1956 said:
If so why was it not triggered in Jan with bid reportedly higher than the current one ?The Red Robin said:I thought he had a release clause?0 -
Don't think so.charlton_hero said:
Was he there last night? In the match thread I made reference to a new player in the directors box, there was a blonde lad back left shaking hands etc looked as though he was being shown around. Probably nothing especially given his current circumstances but it caught my eye nonetheless.Covered_End_Lad said:Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.0 -
You could also look at the 2012 team there too.DamoNorthStand said:
Taylor, Cullen, Bielik, Williams…. Even Jamie Ward and Billy ClarkeChunes said:
Which of those were signed in league one?golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era0 -
Could be related to length of contract remaining. So in January he had over a year left (or over 2 years left, or whatever), so the release was £500k, now that we've passed June 30th, we're into the last year (or last 2 years, or whatever) and the release clause has dropped to £400k.
From the little I know that isn't that uncommon, for release clauses to scale depending on the length of contract remaining.0 -
and Mary, Joseph, and the Wee Donkey..Macronate said:
£4.4m, Jesus wept.Dazzler21 said:Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
Care free signings are as dangerous as too few.
Players sold:
Joe Gomez £4.4m
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BR7_addick said:
Okay so in the interest of balance.golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD eraNow give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outsButton undiscSmith undiscStephens undiscAlnwick freeYann undiscHughes freeCook freeCourt freeevina freeGower freeHolland's freeHamer freeGreen freePritchard freeDevite freePoyet compoWood freeMorrison freeBen haim freeLepoint undiscGomez 3.5 millionChurch freeEagles releasedEtheridge freeOnyewu releasedBikey cancelledWilson releasedWiggins undiscNego freeVaz te freeMoussa freeParzyszeck freeReza releasedMotta releasedPiggott releasedTucudean releasedDimitovic freeCousins undiscGudmundsson undiscPope undiscHenderson freeHarriot undiscBergdich releasedDiarra releasedLookman - 11 millionFoley releasedFox undiscBa releasedChicksen releasedJohnson releasedTexiera undiscCeballos undiscWatt undiscNovak undiscHolmes undiscCrofts releasedKonsa undiscLennon undiscMagennis undiscKashi releasedGrant undiscClarke freeAjose releasedAribo compoBauer freeFosu freeMarshall freeReeves freeParker freeVentokelle freeDijksteel undiscSandgaard outsLockyer freeBonne undisc (2mil)Phillips undiscLapslie undiscDoughty undiscBogle undiscWilliams undiscAmos freeAneke freeMadison releasedDeji releasedOztumer releasedPratley releasedShinnie releasedFor curiosities sake0 -
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Squad seems really short. You know we'll get injuries and will be complaining about lack of depth come November time0
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Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?Covered_End_Lad said:Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.0 -
We have a short squad but a tall team for the first time in ages. Can't have it all I suppose ;-)4
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People are complaining about it now......BigRedEvil said:Squad seems really short. You know we'll get injuries and will be complaining about lack of depth come November time2 -
I know, just shows how much needs to be done in the next few weeks.king addick said:
People are complaining about it now......BigRedEvil said:Squad seems really short. You know we'll get injuries and will be complaining about lack of depth come November time1 -
I don't have an insider info, but it's gone very quiet on all that since Kirk's dad died. If you were his agent just putting stories out there to try and get more money out of the deal it makes sense that you'd stop all that bastardry when your client suffers a loss as it's pretty inappropriate. As I say though, no actual info on it and it assumes that agents are peopleScoham said:
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?Covered_End_Lad said:Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
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In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.Scoham said:
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?Covered_End_Lad said:Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.18 -
I was told 2.9cafc999 said:
I heard it was £3.5mMacronate said:
£4.4m, Jesus wept.Dazzler21 said:Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
Care free signings are as dangerous as too few.
Players sold:
Joe Gomez £4.4m0 -
Would Crewe let both Dale and Kirk go in the same window?4 -
They might have no choice other than to do so be it because of their financial position and making the most of their assets or because both players want to leaveRedRobin said:Would Crewe let both Dale and Kirk go in the same window?2 -
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I wonder what the rules are in that regard? Like, if a deal is agreed and signed between all the relevant parties (both clubs and the player) but for whatever reason there is a hold up on the actual physical move.Covered_End_Lad said:
In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.Scoham said:
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?Covered_End_Lad said:Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
Like, what in other businesses would be compassionate leave or whatever, could we do the deal now but he doesn't necessarily join us in person yet.0 -
Thank you CL P.CL_Phantom said:BR7_addick said:
Okay so in the interest of balance.golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD eraNow give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outsButton undiscSmith undiscStephens undiscAlnwick freeYann undiscHughes freeCook freeCourt freeevina freeGower freeHolland's freeHamer freeGreen freePritchard freeDevite freePoyet compoWood freeMorrison freeBen haim freeLepoint undiscGomez 3.5 millionChurch freeEagles releasedEtheridge freeOnyewu releasedBikey cancelledWilson releasedWiggins undiscNego freeVaz te freeMoussa freeParzyszeck freeReza releasedMotta releasedPiggott releasedTucudean releasedDimitovic freeCousins undiscGudmundsson undiscPope undiscHenderson freeHarriot undiscBergdich releasedDiarra releasedLookman - 11 millionFoley releasedFox undiscBa releasedChicksen releasedJohnson releasedTexiera undiscCeballos undiscWatt undiscNovak undiscHolmes undiscCrofts releasedKonsa undiscLennon undiscMagennis undiscKashi releasedGrant undiscClarke freeAjose releasedAribo compoBauer freeFosu freeMarshall freeReeves freeParker freeVentokelle freeDijksteel undiscSandgaard outsLockyer freeBonne undisc (2mil)Phillips undiscLapslie undiscDoughty undiscBogle undiscWilliams undiscAmos freeAneke freeMadison releasedDeji releasedOztumer releasedPratley releasedShinnie releasedFor curiosities sake
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.Roland was an absolute shambles.2 -
If we are talking £900k - £1m for the pair then I don’t think that can afford to say no.RedRobin said:Would Crewe let both Dale and Kirk go in the same window?2 -
Baah Signing for Donny0
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But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6.BR7_addick said:
Thank you CL P.CL_Phantom said:BR7_addick said:
Okay so in the interest of balance.golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD eraNow give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outsButton undiscSmith undiscStephens undiscAlnwick freeYann undiscHughes freeCook freeCourt freeevina freeGower freeHolland's freeHamer freeGreen freePritchard freeDevite freePoyet compoWood freeMorrison freeBen haim freeLepoint undiscGomez 3.5 millionChurch freeEagles releasedEtheridge freeOnyewu releasedBikey cancelledWilson releasedWiggins undiscNego freeVaz te freeMoussa freeParzyszeck freeReza releasedMotta releasedPiggott releasedTucudean releasedDimitovic freeCousins undiscGudmundsson undiscPope undiscHenderson freeHarriot undiscBergdich releasedDiarra releasedLookman - 11 millionFoley releasedFox undiscBa releasedChicksen releasedJohnson releasedTexiera undiscCeballos undiscWatt undiscNovak undiscHolmes undiscCrofts releasedKonsa undiscLennon undiscMagennis undiscKashi releasedGrant undiscClarke freeAjose releasedAribo compoBauer freeFosu freeMarshall freeReeves freeParker freeVentokelle freeDijksteel undiscSandgaard outsLockyer freeBonne undisc (2mil)Phillips undiscLapslie undiscDoughty undiscBogle undiscWilliams undiscAmos freeAneke freeMadison releasedDeji releasedOztumer releasedPratley releasedShinnie releasedFor curiosities sake
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.Roland was an absolute shambles.0 -
Covered_End_Lad said:
In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.Scoham said:
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?Covered_End_Lad said:Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
Very sad circumstances for the lad but it sounds like no deal has been signed and not sure on whether it was a long time illness or the amount of Siblings the lad has or even where his Mother lives. Some people need to carrying on working and mourn at a later date. We are all different with our reactions to death in the family and how and when we grief.
Cafc would give Charlie Kirk a supportive arm around the shoulder with the wonderful Tracey and the decent staff we have working in coaching and I'm certain every player at Cafc including Jayden Stockley who comes across as a JJ type caring captain.0 -
I expect for financial reasons Crewe are likely to see more than one key player go before the end of the month.
It will be interesting to see where Lowery ends up. He can be a v.good & creative centre mid but doesn't have alot of goals in his locker.0 -
I'd be surprised if Dale stayed in league one. He's different gravy.0
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Really can’t understand why we wouldn’t be in for him. Proven at this level and in a position we need options for.I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Baah Signing for Donny10
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