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Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.39
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That's painting a somewhat rosy pictureRonnieMoore said:Some comments on forums , Twitter are just ludicrous think lot of people need to sit down and just remember that we have already done very good business we got two players from our promotion rivals a championship striker and a premiership centre half , plus we resigned most likey best right back in this division add to that the experience of players like Pearce and Watson ….. I would say business so far is up there if the likes of Ipswich and far better then Wigan … we still got more to come in the next 2/3 weeks …. Plus few more before sept deadline
The 2 players signed from promotion rivals are
1) A keeper from a promotion rival to replace the one lost to a promotion rival
2) A player not wanted by Sunderland
I like Stockley and he may have played in the Championship, but it's unproven whether he's a Championship level player
Similarly I like Famewo, but he's no more a premier league player than Matt Smith or Matt Smith
Matthews is fine, but I doubt very much he's the best RB in the division, whether defensively or offensively.
Every club has experienced pros like Pearce and Watson about the place.
Plus we are still down Aneke who hasn't been replaced
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Cawley confirming no bid made for Mo Eisa25
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We're not getting involved in bidding wars - read that as we're not paying over the odds for players, just because they're having their price hiked by other interested clubs.
We already beat off Pompey with both hands for Stockley, if we can get another similarly talented forward, just with their feet we will be in a great position.1 -
Not to mention that i bet at least half of the people moaning about the kit have no intention of even buying it.Todds_right_hook said:
Exactly! I don’t understand why people are getting upset that a new kit hasn’t been released yet! It’s not like the players will have to run out onto the pitch in their socks, pants and vests on the first day of the seasonDazzler21 said:
Kits are usually announced mid to end of July... How many times do I need to re-type that!TheAddicks4Ever said:Anyway where’s our big money sponsorship deal - no shirt sponsor - new kit ? Wasn’t all this imminent back in May !!! ?3 -
The Blue Destroyer comes in again.MarcusH26 said:Cawley confirming no bid made for Mo Eisa10 -
Phew... DM clearly trying to drill up some interest while teasing our younger fans. Hoping the players we get in have already began pre season so they have the fitness to step in. Be nice to have at least one in before Saturday. The accounts really show that TS saved us, I'm just glad we have stability. Some people need to give their head a wobble writing us off before a balls even been kicked...MarcusH26 said:Cawley confirming no bid made for Mo Eisa5 -
I don’t understand the relevance of this. Danny mills wasn’t wanted by Norwich!killerandflash said:
That's painting a somewhat rosy pictureRonnieMoore said:Some comments on forums , Twitter are just ludicrous think lot of people need to sit down and just remember that we have already done very good business we got two players from our promotion rivals a championship striker and a premiership centre half , plus we resigned most likey best right back in this division add to that the experience of players like Pearce and Watson ….. I would say business so far is up there if the likes of Ipswich and far better then Wigan … we still got more to come in the next 2/3 weeks …. Plus few more before sept deadline
The 2 players signed from promotion rivals are
1) A keeper from a promotion rival to replace the one lost to a promotion rival
2) A player not wanted by Sunderland
I like Stockley and he may have played in the Championship, but it's unproven whether he's a Championship level player
Similarly I like Famewo, but he's no more a premier league player than Matt Smith or Matt Smith
Matthews is fine, but I doubt very much he's the best RB in the division, whether defensively or offensively.
Every club has experienced pros like Pearce and Watson about the place.
Plus we are still down Aneke who hasn't been replaced
salah wasn’t wanted by chelsea, add de bruyne to that list.
some players don’t fit at some club and excel at others.
Spinning the comment around, dobson had a very good loan in league 1 with Wimbledon interested in signing him.1 -
Unless said player signs having just recovered from injury (imagine the reaction) I'd be very surprised if they're not already on a pre-season programme to ensure they're not behind our players in terms of fitness... Take Akin for example.ButtleJR said:
Phew... DM clearly trying to drill up some interest while teasing our younger fans. Hoping the players we get in have already began pre season so they have the fitness to step in. Be nice to have at least one in before Saturday. The accounts really show that TS saved us, I'm just glad we have stability. Some people need to give their head a wobble writing us off before a balls even been kicked...MarcusH26 said:Cawley confirming no bid made for Mo Eisa
In addition this Eisa story really ties in with @Cafc43v3r's post about the powder keg with transfers this summer - Feels like both Agents (with Paul Mullin etc.) and now DM are almost desperately trying to panic teams into being "aware" of other teams "targets" to raise funds or wages for their Clients.
e.g. Portsmouth might not want Eisa, but if they saw that Charlton did, would you want to risk losing that advantage come the League season?1 -
Maccn05 said:
How many more years are we going to keep saying ‘but last year we almost went out of business’ or it’s ok to be crap because ‘Thomas saved us’SheedyCAFC said:
I can understand the impatience growing a bit more when Ipswich & Wigan are spending and signing players that are proven to be great in this league, but you do have to bare in mind we are still in a much stronger position than we were at the start of last season, and that’s just through having Sandgaard as our owner.Maccn05 said:Nigel will be looking very silly next May when Ipswich celebrate thier league title win at the Valley and we finish 9th.
I fully expect to see a team of untried 18 YO's and more loans next season. that's the narrative the club are pushing... didn't we also say the reliance on loans would stop with TS in charge?
If TS isn't prepared to spend then look forward to another two seasons in L1 and another £20m in losses. Best to spend and give yourself the best chance of getting out of this horrible league.
There’s absolutely no way this club would even have been able to compete to sign Stockley, MacGillivray, Dobson & Famewo (on loan but with option to buy) at the beginning of the last season with the desperate state we were in.
We have a few weeks to go still before the season starts, we will need loan players, and not all of them will work out but I think every League One team will be bringing in at least some loan players to fill the gaps in the squad.
This is a marathon not a sprint, we should at least trust that Sandgaard & Adkins will get a handful of good players in before the end of the window and that they’re not sitting around doing nothing.
I don’t live in the past! and I want success. Wigan and Bolton have been in the same boat and seem to have been able to create instant success so why can’t Thomas & NA.
I believe he won’t spend and and the squad will be full of untried kids and loans. That’s my opinion, and I my opinion it will only get us another year in L1.
Could you tell me what success Wigan have had lately?5 -
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Well only Amos and Aneke refused to signaddick1956 said:
A lot of that team were released or lost due to refusal to re sign.Jonniesta said:Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
Maddison and Oztumer were released after playing no part in that one defeat in 15 - Same with Oshilaja and Shinnie
Pratley was the only one with any involvement and he's been replaced by Dobson.
On that basis our issue is primarily the fact that we dont have enough experience in backup in case we get injuries.1 -
But, potentially Aneke aside, which ones are we really going to miss? And I'm not questioning we need more players, of course we do, I'm questioning the moronic behaviour of those who criticise the man that has done more for Charlton in the past year than arguably anyone in our history has managed in a single year.addick1956 said:
A lot of that team were released or lost due to refusal to re sign.Jonniesta said:Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.4 -
Look closer to home. There's a post on this thread with 17 likes that contains the words 'duped into buying a season ticket'Redmidland said:Ackers on twitter reckons that if no transfers today TS should sack Gallen, Roddy and co.
I we t back at him and told him not to be so stupid, words to that effect, and have some patience.
Every social media group seems to calling out TS, it's fucking madness, especially if you've just seen the accounts and what s financial mess we were in!0 -
That’s on the basis that we are buying players who won’t have been training with the selling club. Most players have been back for 2/3 weeks now.addick1956 said:When will people stop saying we have 2-3 weeks to panic mode
We have 3 weeks to the start of the season. The players we may sign may not have had a good preseason.
How many times have we been told a good preseason is vital.
Matthews and Innis are behind for a start. Pearce and Famewo hopefully have.
Worrying in my opinion.
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Unless we're aiming higher and going for players that were on Euro 2020 duty...ValleyGary said:
That’s on the basis that we are buying players who won’t have been training with the selling club. Most players have been back for 2/3 weeks now.addick1956 said:When will people stop saying we have 2-3 weeks to panic mode
We have 3 weeks to the start of the season. The players we may sign may not have had a good preseason.
How many times have we been told a good preseason is vital.
Matthews and Innis are behind for a start. Pearce and Famewo hopefully have.
Worrying in my opinion.
edit: how have you managed to mess up the quoting system…
Joe Morrell would be a player like that for example, just saying, as he'll still be on holiday like Chris Gunter1 -
And Johnny Williams 🥰🥰🥰ForeverAddickted said:
Unless we're aiming higher and going for players that were on Euro 2020 duty...ValleyGary said:
That’s on the basis that we are buying players who won’t have been training with the selling club. Most players have been back for 2/3 weeks now.addick1956 said:When will people stop saying we have 2-3 weeks to panic mode
We have 3 weeks to the start of the season. The players we may sign may not have had a good preseason.
How many times have we been told a good preseason is vital.
Matthews and Innis are behind for a start. Pearce and Famewo hopefully have.
Worrying in my opinion.
edit: how have you managed to mess up the quoting system…
Joe Morrell would be a player like that for example, just saying, as he'll still be on holiday like Chris Gunter3 -
Let’s wait and see who actually signs before the window closes. I will continue to trust in Steve Gallen's recruitment acumen, now supported by Nigel Adkins and Ged Roddy and the financial resources of TS. I'm sure we'll get some excellent loans, as we have in the past, plus the permanent signings we need. COYR and keep the faith!
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I was replying to the comment that we'd signed 2 players from promotion rivals. I'm not saying Dobson won't be a good player for us, but there's a difference between signing a player from a club who desperately wanted to keep him, and signing one that a club is happy to let goTodds_right_hook said:
I don’t understand the relevance of this. Danny mills wasn’t wanted by Norwich!killerandflash said:
That's painting a somewhat rosy pictureRonnieMoore said:Some comments on forums , Twitter are just ludicrous think lot of people need to sit down and just remember that we have already done very good business we got two players from our promotion rivals a championship striker and a premiership centre half , plus we resigned most likey best right back in this division add to that the experience of players like Pearce and Watson ….. I would say business so far is up there if the likes of Ipswich and far better then Wigan … we still got more to come in the next 2/3 weeks …. Plus few more before sept deadline
The 2 players signed from promotion rivals are
1) A keeper from a promotion rival to replace the one lost to a promotion rival
2) A player not wanted by Sunderland
I like Stockley and he may have played in the Championship, but it's unproven whether he's a Championship level player
Similarly I like Famewo, but he's no more a premier league player than Matt Smith or Matt Smith
Matthews is fine, but I doubt very much he's the best RB in the division, whether defensively or offensively.
Every club has experienced pros like Pearce and Watson about the place.
Plus we are still down Aneke who hasn't been replaced
salah wasn’t wanted by chelsea, add de bruyne to that list.
some players don’t fit at some club and excel at others.
Spinning the comment around, dobson had a very good loan in league 1 with Wimbledon interested in signing him.
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What's misleading exactly? Thomas said he want's us to be in the premiership in 5 years - we are currently over 3 weeks before his first full season as owner.addick1956 said:
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.Jonniesta said:Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ.
We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.
I find it utterly staggering how many adults on this forum are getting seemingly aggrieved due to an ambitious comment our owner made, and we've not even kicked a ball in anger yet.
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We STILL have ONE MONTH to go, yes it might look better if we had a few more through the door. We aren't standing still and we dont want to be held to ransom or just rush into getting players. The aim is to get out the division, give them a chance.addick1956 said:
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.Jonniesta said:Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ.
We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.
People need to be realistic, TS has not given us any reason not to suggest he is going to back Adkins and co. Just take a step back sometimes people, just because you are bored as the Euros have finished and we have nothing better to do, stop moaning for the sake of it.6 -
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I really don’t understand this logic. If it were true, it would be impossible for Charlton to sign any good players, as they’d all be hoovered up by teams in the Championship.Todds_right_hook said:If pigott, Fraser, wyke, Humphries are so good that the top two places are already decided, why did they not end up playing at a higher level than last season, especially seeing that at least two of them were out of contract and low risk signings for lower half championship clubs?
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Boris hasn't saved our country. Boris hasn't used any of his own money (to my knowledge). Find me someone who bought a season ticket because of an ambitious comment about the Premier League and I'll show you a plastic 'supporter'. And please stop using the word 'promise' when describing either Thomas or Nigel's comments... wasn't on an election manifesto.addick1956 said:
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.Jonniesta said:Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ.
We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.6 -
In a glass half full world, the quicker Ipswich and Wigan are sorted ... the easier it is to make our signings (especially if none of the players they signed were even approached by us or on our shortlist).0
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Ipswich signed a player. I now regret buying a season ticket. Booooooooooo29
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We’re also over 6 weeks away from the transfer window closing. We’d all like to see more done by now and TS, NA etc would agree with that, but there’s still time to significantly improve the squad.addick1956 said:
Try the following.FishCostaFortune said:
What's misleading exactly? Thomas said he want's us to be in the premiership in 5 years - we are currently over 3 weeks before his first full season as owner.addick1956 said:
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.Jonniesta said:Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ.
We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.
I find it utterly staggering how many adults on this forum are getting seemingly aggrieved due to an ambitious comment our owner made, and we've not even kicked a ball in anger yet.
1) Next year we are going to storm this league.
2) Next year that will be us celebrating like Hull, who win the league.
3) We will make a marquee signing( I think was said too, or misquoted to
me )
If that were true I don't see the full intent yet to be honest. I don't know who we failed to get except Graham from Gillingham and Solomon , ex Wigan.
That is why people are complaining.
We are 3 weeks from ko of the season.3 -
Surely we are in a better place than 12 months ago, irrespective of who our 'rivals' are signing?19
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I'll have money on either Ipswitch or Wigan not going up. Throwing money left right and centre doesn't always work.
If we come back to this end of the season, I will be brave and say Wigan will not go up.0 -
Its not worth that....Addick_8 said:I'll have money on either Ipswitch or Wigan not going up. Throwing money left right and centre doesn't always work.
If we come back to this end of the season, I will put my head on a block and saying Wigan will not go up.1 -
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Some of the comments on here are just ridiculous and the people making them need to give their head a shake lol
We will be absolutely fine this season both squad wise and financially.
The amount of people stressing about rival clubs signing players from the like of MKD anyone would have thought they are top class players. Can I remind people if they were they would have been at MKD in the 1st place ffs8
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