Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ. We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.
What's misleading exactly? Thomas said he want's us to be in the premiership in 5 years - we are currently over 3 weeks before his first full season as owner.
I find it utterly staggering how many adults on this forum are getting seemingly aggrieved due to an ambitious comment our owner made, and we've not even kicked a ball in anger yet.
Try the following.
1) Next year we are going to storm this league.
2) Next year that will be us celebrating like Hull, who win the league.
3) We will make a marquee signing( I think was said too, or misquoted to me )
If that were true I don't see the full intent yet to be honest. I don't know who we failed to get except Graham from Gillingham and Solomon , ex Wigan.
That is why people are complaining.
We are 3 weeks from ko of the season.
We’re also over 6 weeks away from the transfer window closing. We’d all like to see more done by now and TS, NA etc would agree with that, but there’s still time to significantly improve the squad.
I'll have money on either Ipswitch or Wigan not going up. Throwing money left right and centre doesn't always work. If we come back to this end of the season, I will be brave and say Wigan will not go up.
I'll have money on either Ipswitch or Wigan not going up. Throwing money left right and centre doesn't always work. If we come back to this end of the season, I will put my head on a block and saying Wigan will not go up.
Some of the comments on here are just ridiculous and the people making them need to give their head a shake lol We will be absolutely fine this season both squad wise and financially. The amount of people stressing about rival clubs signing players from the like of MKD anyone would have thought they are top class players. Can I remind people if they were they would have been at MKD in the 1st place ffs
Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ. We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.
What's misleading exactly? Thomas said he want's us to be in the premiership in 5 years - we are currently over 3 weeks before his first full season as owner.
I find it utterly staggering how many adults on this forum are getting seemingly aggrieved due to an ambitious comment our owner made, and we've not even kicked a ball in anger yet.
Try the following.
1) Next year we are going to storm this league.
2) Next year that will be us celebrating like Hull, who win the league.
3) We will make a marquee signing( I think was said too, or misquoted to me )
If that were true I don't see the full intent yet to be honest. I don't know who we failed to get except Graham from Gillingham and Solomon , ex Wigan.
That is why people are complaining.
We are 3 weeks from ko of the season.
Exactly 3 weeks and 2 days, also known as nearly 7 weeks til the end of the transfer window.
If we need the full 7 weeks to get our squad built and to be in/around autos come 1st January and again the whole cycle to 30th April, that's just fine with me.
Sorry but fuck me, on the last game of the season with Hull celebrating behind him, Adkins (Mr Positive) turned and said "that will be us next year". Now people are using it to bash him? Mental.
I love his positivity, rather that than the dourness of some previous managers.
When he said it I didn't think "right, well that is a locked on fact I will now buy a season ticket", I thought, "Great, ambition, positivity, love that".
Can we please stop quoting his words as though if we are not Champions he has lied and let us down. It is just pathetic.
I'll be happy to get Williams in. He is high end League 1, low end Championship. Apologies for starting that one up again. Defensively, I feel we are not too bad. Morgan, I am expecting to be a bigger player for us and start to fulfil the potential that is there. Losing Aneke is basically losing 15 goals and power that can unsettle defenders. So we need to find those goals or more from elsewhere.
We could probably fill the gaps we need with some high end loanees. It is a concern that Ipswich and Wigan look like they are doing a decent job. If you say it isn't, you are not worth listening to due to your glasses being far too rose tinted. But I think the foundations are there to the extent that a few of the right additions and we ought to be up there. Of course, the best thing is not to assume they will happen or assume they won't. We will make signings and we need to judge them on what they are.
If we sign a couple of half decent perms and get 3 or 4 good loans we will probably have a good chance at the play offs which would give us about a 15% chance of promotion. We will be in exactly the same position next summer with half the squad out of contract and still in league 1. Thomas will also be about 7 million more in the red.
If we sign 3 or 4 more players on perms of a similar quality to Stockley, on 3 year contracts, AND 3 or 4 high quality loans we will be in with a shout of automatic promotion, failing that a good chance of winning the play offs. So maybe as high as 50% chance of promotion. If if we just miss out we will have something to build on. It will still cost Thomas a few quid but he knows that.
Not investing in a team that's got a good chance of going up is a false economy, no matter how many pet memberships you can flog. Thomas knows that.
We will sign the players we need, and Adkins wants. It might not happen until later in August but it will happen.
Ackers on twitter reckons that if no transfers today TS should sack Gallen, Roddy and co. I we t back at him and told him not to be so stupid, words to that effect, and have some patience. Every social media group seems to calling out TS, it's fucking madness, especially if you've just seen the accounts and what s financial mess we were in!
Look closer to home. There's a post on this thread with 17 likes that contains the words 'duped into buying a season ticket'
I didn't see that, I don't read every post, but that's just as ridiculous a comment I read elsewhere, that basically it's not TS money it's ours because we sold 8500 ST's and he should be using that for transfers! Working on a generous average of £450 an ST, that equates to £3,825,000 which is less than it takes to run the club for 4 months, as I understand it cost £1m a month! Yet that seems to have been forgotten, jeesh some people need a fucking reality check!
Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ. We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.
We STILL have ONE MONTH to go, yes it might look better if we had a few more through the door. We aren't standing still and we dont want to be held to ransom or just rush into getting players. The aim is to get out the division, give them a chance.
People need to be realistic, TS has not given us any reason not to suggest he is going to back Adkins and co. Just take a step back sometimes people, just because you are bored as the Euros have finished and we have nothing better to do, stop moaning for the sake of it.
Sounds like friends of mine talking about revision. They didn’t bother until it was too late to be a real success.
I started way before that . We only got Stockley in on time. People were quoting Powell's recruitment. We are behind that now to a significant amount
Ideally, you want to get it done early to get the team to gel, but it isn't always possible. Loanees are generally late because the best ones have the possibility of not going on loan and are generally late decisions. We do have a good track record with developing loanees and that and maybe a bit of money could get us a few gems. I personally thought Millar was a gem. A real handful for League One defenders.
Gallen will have a good idea what is out there and a possibility for us and this is something that is absolutely required to be hush hush until it happens.
I think Morgan will be like a new signing this year. Got a feeling this will be the start of some really good years in his Charlton career. I'd also like to see Henry, Venning's in the mix throughout the season. That's 3 good young midfielders we have. I know everyone wants signings which I completely agree but if we can give 2/3 more perms in, couple loans and really blood our youth this year I'd love that. Plus, if a couple youngsters make a serious leap forward (Morgan) we will be more than ok. Give me that over pumping 10K a week on strikers from fellow league 1 clubs who failed to even make a playoff final.
I think Vennings and Henry would be a bonus and we are best not letting our expectations run away with us. Morgan, absolutely. This is his time if he wants to fulfil his potential and not if he wants to remain a lower league player. We know he has it in him and now it is down to him. The help he needs is to be backed as our play maker by Adkins.
The game at the valley Fraser is MOM. We would love to have him in our team was the consensus of Cafc fans.
In the away game I personally thought MK Dons over passed and made it quite easy for us to get in our defensive shape. Pratley did a decent job negating Fraser's skill.
Ipswich wouldn't have bought Fraser because of the two games he played against them last season. Yes, it may start the process of monitoring for a potential transfer but he would've been watched on dozens of occasions by the club in case he was available in a window of opportunity.
It’s hard to get too worked up other a league one player going to another league one club, granted i’m sure he would improve us but the amount of times Fraser’s match at the Valley has been mentioned you would of thought it was Zidane v Brazil in the world cup.
Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful.
You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting him after he fails though deliver on promises.
It is simple. People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season tickets.
It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises. People will feel they are let down.
I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available. We all know the better players in this division. One of them DJ. We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently.
We STILL have ONE MONTH to go, yes it might look better if we had a few more through the door. We aren't standing still and we dont want to be held to ransom or just rush into getting players. The aim is to get out the division, give them a chance.
People need to be realistic, TS has not given us any reason not to suggest he is going to back Adkins and co. Just take a step back sometimes people, just because you are bored as the Euros have finished and we have nothing better to do, stop moaning for the sake of it.
Sounds like friends of mine talking about revision. They didn’t bother until it was too late to be a real success.
I started way before that . We only got Stockley in on time. People were quoting Powell's recruitment. We are behind that now to a significant amount
This makes sense now, you’re 15.
The 1956 actually references the number of times he mentions Boris Johnson per day
Before people take to their keyboards and start sending messages to TS calling him out re transfers can I suggest they visit the Accounts thread on here ! They may want to change their rhetoric to one of thanks
There's a certain section of Charlton twitter that seems to want to stay in an eternal state of negativity.
It is probably best to stay in the middle as a virtual state of positivity can be annoying too. We haven't finished yet and can judge it all when we have.
I think the nearer Henry is to the first team (and mens football), the further forward be will need to play. A few of the blockbuster passes can lose you possession in dangerous areas and this is a way most managers negate this with the younger players coming through the ranks.
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If we come back to this end of the season, I will be brave and say Wigan will not go up.
We will be absolutely fine this season both squad wise and financially.
The amount of people stressing about rival clubs signing players from the like of MKD anyone would have thought they are top class players. Can I remind people if they were they would have been at MKD in the 1st place ffs
If we need the full 7 weeks to get our squad built and to be in/around autos come 1st January and again the whole cycle to 30th April, that's just fine with me.
Mental.
I love his positivity, rather that than the dourness of some previous managers.
When he said it I didn't think "right, well that is a locked on fact I will now buy a season ticket", I thought, "Great, ambition, positivity, love that".
Can we please stop quoting his words as though if we are not Champions he has lied and let us down. It is just pathetic.
Sorry for the rant - it's hot!
We could probably fill the gaps we need with some high end loanees. It is a concern that Ipswich and Wigan look like they are doing a decent job. If you say it isn't, you are not worth listening to due to your glasses being far too rose tinted. But I think the foundations are there to the extent that a few of the right additions and we ought to be up there. Of course, the best thing is not to assume they will happen or assume they won't. We will make signings and we need to judge them on what they are.
If we sign 3 or 4 more players on perms of a similar quality to Stockley, on 3 year contracts, AND 3 or 4 high quality loans we will be in with a shout of automatic promotion, failing that a good chance of winning the play offs. So maybe as high as 50% chance of promotion. If if we just miss out we will have something to build on. It will still cost Thomas a few quid but he knows that.
Not investing in a team that's got a good chance of going up is a false economy, no matter how many pet memberships you can flog. Thomas knows that.
We will sign the players we need, and Adkins wants. It might not happen until later in August but it will happen.
Working on a generous average of £450 an ST, that equates to £3,825,000 which is less than it takes to run the club for 4 months, as I understand it cost £1m a month!
Yet that seems to have been forgotten, jeesh some people need a fucking reality check!
Gallen will have a good idea what is out there and a possibility for us and this is something that is absolutely required to be hush hush until it happens.
I really do think we'll be ok.
I get that perhaps our targets aren’t being able to come yet due to hold ups in the league etc , but at least go and get a few ‘planB/C’ players!
Vennings >>> Fraser
We would love to have him in our team was the consensus of Cafc fans.
In the away game I personally thought MK Dons over passed and made it quite easy for us to get in our defensive shape. Pratley did a decent job negating Fraser's skill.
Ipswich wouldn't have bought Fraser because of the two games he played against them last season. Yes, it may start the process of monitoring for a potential transfer but he would've been watched on dozens of occasions by the club in case he was available in a window of opportunity.