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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,174
    I wonder with Doughty if it doesnt help that he's "admitted" that its best he doesnt say which Football team he supports

    I'd be surprised if that doesnt limit him to Millwall | Palace or West Ham at a stretch

    If you played for one of those two and had a chance to play at a higher level than them, would you take it?
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,747
    ForeverAddickted said:
    I always get the shivers when we're linked with a Palace player these days
    Bobby Goldthorpe.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,093
    Oggy Red said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Kante’s available.
    Player exchange with Doughty, so I heard.

    PS: I'm ITK  :wink:



    With Ben Watson and Darren Pratley covering the holding midfield role do we really need Kante? 
  • SteveKielyCambridge
    SteveKielyCambridge Posts: 219
    J BLOCK said:

    That team screams 9th place 
    Really? We played Sunderland - who could easily be champions - last week and got a relatively comfortable draw, since when we have added players and more to come back from injury. There is always a danger of severely over-rating the quality of the league, there are really very few outstanding teams in this division.

  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    StrikerFirmani said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    I always get the shivers when we're linked with a Palace player these days
    Bobby Goldthorpe.
    A player who scored a vital goal in a promotion clinching game. 
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,627
    J BLOCK said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    @Cafc43v3r
    Rather uninspiring options, but options: 

    GK
    Amos
    Maynard Brewer

    Defence
    Gunter | Inniss | Pearce | Maatsen
    Oshilaja | Barker | Famewo | Purrington

    Midfield
    Levitt | Watson | Gilbey
    Morgan | Pratley | Vennings

    Attack
    Oztumer | Aneke | Williams
    Washington | Bogle | Maddison

    That team screams 9th place 
    I think we might be in trouble with the authorities if we tried to field them all at the same time 😉
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,139
    Dizzle said:
    dickplumb said:
    It looks like Luton have made an improved bid for Doughty.
    Eurgh. Luton. 
    Exactly.
    Maybe they should focus on re-inventing themselves as a football club that isn't shit.
    Then come back with an improved ground. In an improved town. In an improved location.
    I'm still not over Walsh and Elliott.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,087
    SteveKielyCambridge said:
    J BLOCK said:

    That team screams 9th place 
    Really? We played Sunderland - who could easily be champions - last week and got a relatively comfortable draw, since when we have added players and more to come back from injury. There is always a danger of severely over-rating the quality of the league, there are really very few outstanding teams in this division.

    I think that says a lot about how average Sunderland are at the moment. I think we definitely would have had a tougher job if we had played Ipswich last Saturday
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,087
    Dazzler21 said:
    @Cafc43v3r
    Rather uninspiring options, but options: 

    GK
    Amos
    Maynard Brewer

    Defence
    Gunter | Inniss | Pearce | Maatsen
    Oshilaja | Barker | Famewo | Purrington

    Midfield
    Levitt | Watson | Gilbey
    Morgan | Pratley | Vennings

    Attack
    Oztumer | Aneke | Williams
    Washington | Bogle | Maddison

    Plus JFC and Lapslie in midfield, and Davison up front if he isn't loaned out
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    Richard J said:
    StrikerFirmani said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    I always get the shivers when we're linked with a Palace player these days
    Bobby Goldthorpe.
    A player who scored a vital goal in a promotion clinching game. 
    True. If it actually crossed the line! But not the best centre half we've had. Even in the Third Division.



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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,038
    With Doughty there is the question of whether he's good enough as a player in his own right to merit a system being built around him or whether we could potentially have a better team without necessarily having the best individual players.

    He's got pace and directness but if we make him the teams key man and he gets injured or suspended we'd be screwed. On the other hand you theoretically can swap JW for Maddison or vice versa, or Bogle for Aneke etc. If the Smyth signing comes off, he's the cover/alternative to Washington etc. We could still use the same system with different players.

    Doughty is out for whatever reason there's no-one to directly replace him as you can't teach someone to be a fast runner.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,440
    edited October 2020
    Stripey Nigels seem to really rate Inniss. Some calling out Hodgson for never giving him game time.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,087
    Chunes said:
    Stripey Nigels seem to really rate Inniss. Some calling out Hodgson for never giving him game time.  
    I can't imagine many are moaning about their defence. It's their defensiveness organisation under Hodgson which has (sadly) kept them up for several seasons
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,677

  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,054
    Chunes said:
    Stripey Nigels seem to really rate Inniss. Some calling out Hodgson for never giving him game time.  
    Could be a double bluff,  really they want him gone, and the
    thought of him coming to us might be the the aim, hopefully not :/
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,541
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    Scoham said:
    RedRobin said:
    Redhenry said:
    Doughty off though
    I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
    I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
    As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need. 
    How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs? 
    None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.

    Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
    He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.

    LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.

    Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery.  Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
    Yeah he has talked about different systems, but he’s likely to have one as his main system. I wouldn’t assume he’s set on that being a diamond, that worked well when we had the right strikers for it. At the moment we probably don’t have that.

    Williams and Oztumer can’t stay in the team, while Aneke can’t stay fit. We won’t be building a system around any of them.

    When they do play it wouldn’t be surprising to see Williams our wide or in the midfield 3, Oztumer on the right of the front 3 or Aneke as the central striker. They’ve all played in positions other than a “number 10” during their careers.
    They have also all been pretty poor to average as anything else other than a "number 10".  Bowyer has said before that Aneke isn't a 9.

    Like I said we will see. 
    Oztumer and Aneke have been generally poor full stop. He did say that about Aneke but played him there v Sunderland as he has done in other games, he’s not completely against using him up front.

    We will, and if we move back to a diamond it’ll surely be Maddison who plays the 10 role ahead of those 3.

    As always how we line up will come down to injuries, suspensions, opposition and what actually gets results. I just think we’re less likely to play a diamond than we did in 18/19. Not saying Bowyer will only play 4-3-3, he’s never only used one formation. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,038
    charlton_hero said:

    Makes sense if the Chelsea lad is lined up. Same position but due to his age and it being a loan means a bit more money to be spent elsewhere.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Dizzle said:
    dickplumb said:
    It looks like Luton have made an improved bid for Doughty.
    Eurgh. Luton. 
    Exactly.
    Maybe they should focus on re-inventing themselves as a football club that isn't shit.
    Then come back with an improved ground. In an improved town. In an improved location.
    I'm still not over Walsh and Elliott.


    That was selling our future.
    They were the two most talented teenagers I had seen for Cafc until Joe Gomez came along.



  • CroydonAddick1
    CroydonAddick1 Posts: 448
    ForeverAddickted said:
    I wonder with Doughty if it doesnt help that he's "admitted" that its best he doesnt say which Football team he supports

    I'd be surprised if that doesnt limit him to Millwall | Palace or West Ham at a stretch

    If you played for one of those two and had a chance to play at a higher level than them, would you take it?
    Believe Doughty is a Millwall fan
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,440
    edited October 2020
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Chunes said:
    Stripey Nigels seem to really rate Inniss. Some calling out Hodgson for never giving him game time.  
    Could be a double bluff,  really they want him gone, and the
    thought of him coming to us might be the the aim, hopefully not :/
    Probably not eh

    killerandflash said:
    Chunes said:
    Stripey Nigels seem to really rate Inniss. Some calling out Hodgson for never giving him game time.  
    I can't imagine many are moaning about their defence. It's their defensiveness organisation under Hodgson which has (sadly) kept them up for several seasons
    Not moaning about their defence, moaning a player they liked wasn't given a chance. 

    I do think a portion of Nigels find Hodgson too conservative across many aspects of management, rightly or wrongly. 

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,909
    Callumcafc said:
    I won’t believe Doughty’s leaving until it’s “confirmed” by Rich Cawley and/or Pete O’Rourke. Unfortunately RH’s recent track record isn’t as stellar as it once was so I’m a little less inclined to believe it.

    There’s about five pages of people calling him greedy etc over one whisper that was posted up here earlier today. Imagine if nothing’s happened and he’s reading those posts LOL.
    Two pages later and still people getting angry about something that probably isn’t happening.

    Let’s wait and see shall we? I’m confident no one meets our valuation and he’ll still be here at the end of the window.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,054
    thenewbie said:
    charlton_hero said:

    Makes sense if the Chelsea lad is lined up. Same position but due to his age and it being a loan means a bit more money to be spent elsewhere.
    Thing is Koiki was a long term replacement, whereas the Chelsea
    loan is just that, a loan, and we all know about Chelsea and their
    loan "deals", could be a very short season loan indeed, if it comes
    off :)
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,054
    Chunes said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Chunes said:
    Stripey Nigels seem to really rate Inniss. Some calling out Hodgson for never giving him game time.  
    Could be a double bluff,  really they want him gone, and the
    thought of him coming to us might be the the aim, hopefully not :/
    Probably not eh

    killerandflash said:
    Chunes said:
    Stripey Nigels seem to really rate Inniss. Some calling out Hodgson for never giving him game time.  
    I can't imagine many are moaning about their defence. It's their defensiveness organisation under Hodgson which has (sadly) kept them up for several seasons
    Not moaning about their defence, moaning a player they liked wasn't given a chance. 

    I do think a portion of Nigels find Hodgson too conservative across many aspects of management, rightly or wrongly. 

  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,150
    eastterrace6168 said:
    thenewbie said:
    charlton_hero said:

    Makes sense if the Chelsea lad is lined up. Same position but due to his age and it being a loan means a bit more money to be spent elsewhere.
    Thing is Koiki was a long term replacement, whereas the Chelsea
    loan is just that, a loan, and we all know about Chelsea and their
    loan "deals", could be a very short season loan indeed, if it comes
    off :)
    But this time we will actually pay (some of) the wages and have players with an age > than the loanee playing around them.  We can't be that shit at Christmas again. 
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,346
    thenewbie said:
    With Doughty there is the question of whether he's good enough as a player in his own right to merit a system being built around him or whether we could potentially have a better team without necessarily having the best individual players.

    He's got pace and directness but if we make him the teams key man and he gets injured or suspended we'd be screwed. On the other hand you theoretically can swap JW for Maddison or vice versa, or Bogle for Aneke etc. If the Smyth signing comes off, he's the cover/alternative to Washington etc. We could still use the same system with different players.

    Doughty is out for whatever reason there's no-one to directly replace him as you can't teach someone to be a fast runner.
    Build a team around Doherty?! I don’t suppose that has ever crossed Bowyer’s mind. He’s quickish, but still has to learn to pass and defend. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,906
    doughty is fast but no end product yet. Sell him and get a fast youngster from the premier league in and we won’t be in a poor position
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,054
    BalladMan said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    thenewbie said:
    charlton_hero said:

    Makes sense if the Chelsea lad is lined up. Same position but due to his age and it being a loan means a bit more money to be spent elsewhere.
    Thing is Koiki was a long term replacement, whereas the Chelsea
    loan is just that, a loan, and we all know about Chelsea and their
    loan "deals", could be a very short season loan indeed, if it comes
    off :)
    But this time we will actually pay (some of) the wages and have players with an age > than the loanee playing around them.  We can't be that shit at Christmas again. 
    I hear what you are saying, and hopefully this Christmas, Santa
    actually leaves us something rather than take it away.
    Maybe the words Chelsea and loan deal don't seem to sit well
    with me and makes me very wary that's about it really.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    Where's these new lads then?

    It's nearly 5 o'clock, ..... if they're going to sign, they would have done so by this time.

    Perhaps no one can find Scarfy?

    I'd understand if that was the problem.

  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,054
    Patience.. just leaving us on the edge of our seats
    still got another 11 minutes to go ;)

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