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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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I see Albert Adomah has just been given a free by Forest. Always thought he was good.9
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Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.35
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Only got until Monday to complete Schwartz transfer with the window for international transfers closong3
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But his club have the same problem, so come Monday the deal might be easier to conclude.BigRedEvil said:Only got until Monday to complete Schwartz transfer with the window for international transfers closong1 -
Maybe one way around it is to over pay on the transfer fee so selling club can pay a golden goodbye?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.5 -
I wonder if that's 20% of any future fee or 20% of QPR's profit on any future fee?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.0 -
I might be out of the loop here but Who is MARTIN Sandgaard?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.4 -
This. Not that I like "creative accounting" but the EFL have not left us with many options if we want to actually build a squad to compete in this league. And I mean compete, not win it.Redrobo said:
Maybe one way around it is to over pay on the transfer fee so selling club can pay a golden goodbye?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.
Agree a deal with the selling club. They want £1.5m but the player wants £5k pw. We can only offer him half that. 2 yr contract that equates to around £250k. We pay them £2m & they give him £250k. Win win win.2 -
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Is Martin ITK or another for the list!cafcwill said:
I might be out of the loop here but Who is MARTIN Sandgaard?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.1 -
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Not in the know but Martin????? Sandgaard told me.....I’m fairly certain that this comment counts as being in the know and you will now be added to dazzlers listElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.8 -
Martin is Thomas' son.Todds_right_hook said:
Not in the know but Martin????? Sandgaard told me.....I’m fairly certain that this comment counts as being in the know and you will now be added to dazzlers listElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.0 -
Risky strategy. Say we want a player but salary cap does not allow so we pay £1M more, he gets his golden goodbye, and comes to us on £2K ow. 6 months later another team offers 5K a week to the player... Player wants to leave to chase the money. We now have an unhappy player, and a pissed off owner. All gets very messy.Redrobo said:
Maybe one way around it is to over pay on the transfer fee so selling club can pay a golden goodbye?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.1 -
I agree, but that can happen to any player at any club......unless you are Gareth Bale.Athletico Charlton said:
Risky strategy. Say we want a player but salary cap does not allow so we pay £1M more, he gets his golden goodbye, and comes to us on £2K ow. 6 months later another team offers 5K a week to the player... Player wants to leave to chase the money. We now have an unhappy player, and a pissed off owner. All gets very messy.Redrobo said:
Maybe one way around it is to over pay on the transfer fee so selling club can pay a golden goodbye?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.0 -
Hire their Mrs as a 3k a week boot cleanergolfaddick said:
I agree, but that can happen to any player at any club......unless you are Gareth Bale.Athletico Charlton said:
Risky strategy. Say we want a player but salary cap does not allow so we pay £1M more, he gets his golden goodbye, and comes to us on £2K ow. 6 months later another team offers 5K a week to the player... Player wants to leave to chase the money. We now have an unhappy player, and a pissed off owner. All gets very messy.Redrobo said:
Maybe one way around it is to over pay on the transfer fee so selling club can pay a golden goodbye?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.2 -
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.0 -
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.11 -
Right, cheers. I hope that Martin Sandgaard quote isn't accurate then because circumventing the wage cap is an intentional rule break.MattF said:
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.0 -
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I doubt there is an appetite within the club to do so but surely the way to beat the wage cap is to challenge it in court. I’m shocked that the PFA haven't already done so to be honest. I think it could be challenged on several fronts by players.4
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By not ITK I mean I’m not someone close to the club nor do I have any sources feeding me info.Todds_right_hook said:
Not in the know but Martin????? Sandgaard told me.....I’m fairly certain that this comment counts as being in the know and you will now be added to dazzlers listElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.I’ve been able to directly chat with Martin quite a bit over the past few days and he’s absolutely smitten with Charlton. He’s a lot more involved than I thought he would be, and he seems very invested in the project.He’s also a really nice bloke, so Thomas clearly raised his kids well.36 -
ElliotCAFC said:
By not ITK I mean I’m not someone close to the club nor do I have any sources feeding me info.Todds_right_hook said:
Not in the know but Martin????? Sandgaard told me.....I’m fairly certain that this comment counts as being in the know and you will now be added to dazzlers listElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.I’ve been able to directly chat with Martin quite a bit over the past few days and he’s absolutely smitten with Charlton. He’s a lot more involved than I thought he would be, and he seems very invested in the project.He’s also a really nice bloke, so Thomas clearly raised his kids well.
What's Martin's username on Charlton Life?
Not on Charlton Life? Not pwopa Charlton then.
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I think the post was very tongue in cheek......addick1956 said:
SEVERELY PUNISHED. ARE YOU KIDDING. WIGAN WERE SEVERELY PUNISHED. DERBY ARE NOT YET PUNISHED?MattF said:
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.3 -
Might be a difference between "intentional rule breaking" and "creative ways of getting around the wage cap", perhaps?MattF said:
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.
A bit like the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?
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I would think knowing the EFL that the rules they have drawn up are about as waterproof as a string vest. You either break the rules or find loopholes or ways of working that don’t contravene them but work for you. I’m thinking that TS already has Freshfields looking at what can be done. Certainly Martin Sandgaard has suggested something similar.Quite how the rules as I understand them don’t contravene discrimination on age grounds and on restraint of trade baffles me.15
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I'd taken intentional rule breaking as saying fuck it and just signing players up on big wages and daring the EFL to do something about it. Depends how the EFL plan to police it and if they have the capacity to do it themselvesOggy Red said:
Might be a difference between "intentional rule breaking" and "creative ways of getting around the wage cap", perhaps?MattF said:
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.
A bit like the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?0 -
This 👆BalladMan said:
I think the post was very tongue in cheek......addick1956 said:
SEVERELY PUNISHED. ARE YOU KIDDING. WIGAN WERE SEVERELY PUNISHED. DERBY ARE NOT YET PUNISHED?MattF said:
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.0 -
Would we really want this though ? The rules were voted in by the clubs not made up arbitrarily by the EFL. That’s not to say they are not perhaps misguided, unfair or even subject to legal challenges but to just ride roughshod over them and effectively say to the EFL - I dare you, wouldn’t sit well with me and I suspect a lot of fans. There are ways of going about the cap but I hope we do it at least in a moral way.MattF said:
I'd taken intentional rule breaking as saying fuck it and just signing players up on big wages and daring the EFL to do something about it. Depends how the EFL plan to police it and if they have the capacity to do it themselvesOggy Red said:
Might be a difference between "intentional rule breaking" and "creative ways of getting around the wage cap", perhaps?MattF said:
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.
A bit like the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?4 -
I wouldn't want us doing this either, just giving my interpretation of what the league mean by intentional rule breaking. No idea what the creative options are, but I hope we wouldn't take them unless we were sure they wouldn't have repercussionsShootersHillGuru said:
Would we really want this though ? The rules were voted in by the clubs not made up arbitrarily by the EFL. That’s not to say they are not perhaps misguided, unfair or even subject to legal challenges but to just ride roughshod over them and effectively say to the EFL - I dare you, wouldn’t sit well with me and I suspect a lot of fans. There are ways of going about the cap but I hope we do it at least in a moral way.MattF said:
I'd taken intentional rule breaking as saying fuck it and just signing players up on big wages and daring the EFL to do something about it. Depends how the EFL plan to police it and if they have the capacity to do it themselvesOggy Red said:
Might be a difference between "intentional rule breaking" and "creative ways of getting around the wage cap", perhaps?MattF said:
Any intentional rule breaking I think they said, probably in the same way that Derby and Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules and were severely punishedChunes said:
Did the EFL not say that any 'creative' methods to circumvent the wage cap would be severely punished?ElliotCAFC said:Not ITK but Martin Sandgaard told me that we have creative ways of getting around the wage cap and the deal for Ronnie Schwartz isn’t dead it’s just become more difficult than first imagined.He also mentioned the deal for Bonne was £2m with a 20% sell on clause.
A bit like the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?2
