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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,359
    Amazed that Gunter is only 31! 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,333
    KentishAddick said:
    I'd take Matthews or Gunter tbf. No moaning from me if we get either of them.
    Prefer Mathews as he is younger and would help us stabilise in the coming seasons. But if he does not want to stay, Günter is a great alternative. 
  • DanielPascoe
    DanielPascoe Posts: 31
    sam3110 said:
    Bow's jumper is not available in the club shop, unfortunately 😔 #cafc 
    @Ollywozere Can you as Bows where he got the jumper when you have a moment between all the incomings
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,686
    CAFCDAZ said:
    Gunter over Matthews....not for me
    Same here. I can't remember much about Gunter but he'd have to be something special to be better than Matthews, who was my POTY last season. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Not sure about Gunter, he’d definitely be good at this level but I was hoping for a younger option. I trust whatever Bowyer wants 
    What Bowyer wants is to get out of this division.

    He'll try to do whatever it takes.


  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,887
    I’m in the Matthews over Gunter gang. I don’t see how that’s an improvement 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,547
    Would prefer Matthews but not particularly disappointed if Gunter signs on, international breaks off if he signs?


  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,333
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I’m in the Matthews over Gunter gang. I don’t see how that’s an improvement 
    But Mathews isn’t our player and wants to move to a Championship club.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    If Bowyer has a choice between Matthews and Gunter, and he thinks Gunter is the better option, then so do I.  

    I’d personally choose Matthews but bows is ten fold more qualified to make the right choice, so again, IBWT.

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,415
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,169
    WoodsideValley said:
    Lee’s jumper isn’t as bad a stinker as Maddison’s watch...
    Have we all turned into Gok Wan?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,686
    Leuth said:
    Matthews isn't an attacking full-back either
    I'm sorry..???.  He was our best attacking treat second  half of last season. Put in more & better crosses than anyone else.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,975
    Surprised Gunter is only 31, remember singing him on FM all the time, and it feels like that was about 15 years ago.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,817
    edited October 2020
    mendonca said:
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
    He started 28 games with one sub appearance, contributing one assist and creating two “big chances”.

    https://www.sofascore.com/player/adam-matthews/50826
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    edited October 2020
    Gunter would be a very good signing in league 1. He is in front of Matthews in the Wales squad! The issue we’ve got is we know what we will get with Matthews but would be happy with either or even better....both!!!
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,359
    mendonca said:
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
    Doughty's amazing volley against Wigan. Where to be fair the cross was hardly threatening 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,817
    Contrast to Chris Gunter who started 18 games, contributed 0 assists and created 0 “big chances”. I’m not sure either option jumps off the page at you!

    https://www.sofascore.com/player/chris-gunter/17536
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,597
    Leuth said:
    mendonca said:
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
    Doughty's amazing volley against Wigan. Where to be fair the cross was hardly threatening 
    More fool Wigan then as we scored from it
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    mendonca said:
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
    Blimmin' stats again.

    Straight off the top of my head, home to Wigan, 93rd minute losing 1-2.
    Matthews charges down the wing and slings over a well weighted cross, Aneke knocks it down, Bonno moves on to it and strokes it home.

    Stats say: assist Aneke. But Matthews was key, without his run and cross the goal would never have happened.

    They'll be other instances like that also. Stat's, eh? They never tell the full story.



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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,780
    From my Reading supporting mate:

    'Awful! Never rated him.

    Will never stop a cross coming in and will just pretend to look busy' 


  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    mendonca said:
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
    Not really, I’d use stats as you have if I hadn’t seen the player play much or at all.  It’s more than that.  Williams was our attacking spark second half of 18/19, got a few assists and no goals.
  • shuffs67
    shuffs67 Posts: 90
    Matthews was by far and away our best defender last season 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,921
    I'd be happy with Gunter. The guy's got 96 caps for Wales, which says something about his consistency. Over 300 appearances for Reading and 155 for Forest, if he's still fit those are impressive numbers
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,887
    Redrobo said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I’m in the Matthews over Gunter gang. I don’t see how that’s an improvement 
    But Mathews isn’t our player and wants to move to a Championship club.
    Bowyers very good at dropping little things into press conferences to get his own way. Bowyer could be putting pressure on Matthews to sign
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,887
    mendonca said:
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
    Reading at home for doughty 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,645
    I think Matthews, good player though he is, messed Bowyer around too much in the end. He knew we wanted him but him and his agent wouldn’t commit. No idea if true but I heard that Matthews was given a deadline to sign and didn’t. Fair enough. That’s football but Gunter is going to be very steady at League one level. Our defence was very motheaten. 

    I think Bow is assembling a squad of players aimed specifically to get out of this league this season. Gunter is 31, Schwartz is 31 and Watson is 35. Not building for the future but certainly should be very good at the level we are at. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,887
    North Lower Neil said:
    Surprised Gunter is only 31, remember singing him on FM all the time, and it feels like that was about 15 years ago.
    It was, he was 16 at the time
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,887
    FishCostaFortune said:
    From my Reading supporting mate:

    'Awful! Never rated him.

    Will never stop a cross coming in and will just pretend to look busy' 


    Stands by the photocopier with paper in his hand. I worked with a guy who photocopied a book and sat at his desk reading the paper, making him look busy. Clever
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,421
    edited October 2020
    Oggy Red said:
    mendonca said:
    Matthews had an excellent season but he didn't create/assist a single goal. That's how you analyse a player's attacking ability and not just intent.
    Blimmin' stats again.

    Straight off the top of my head, home to Wigan, 93rd minute losing 1-2.
    Matthews charges down the wing and slings over a well weighted cross, Aneke knocks it down, Bonno moves on to it and strokes it home.

    Stats say: assist Aneke. But Matthews was key, without his run and cross the goal would never have happened.

    They'll be other instances like that also. Stat's, eh? They never tell the full story.


    Stats say on Transfermarkt,:
    Matthews got 1 assist. He played 29 games in all competitions last season. 
    Gunter got 2 assists in all comps. He played 24 games in all comps last season. (Includes 3 PL2 games)

    I'd personally prefer Matthews, but if he's not willing to commit then Gunter will do a good job at right back in L1.  

    To be honest I will always want players that WANT to wear the hallowed red and white kit over want-aways. 

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