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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.2 -
It has to be this to compete.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
Maddison, or a player in that position is a cert. If we’re to play three up top we only have Doughty who’s a natural in that position.
Two FW’s if Bonne goes so Davidson can go out on loan.0 -
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.1 -
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.1 -
cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.5 -
If Wiredu ever reappears!cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
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I don't think Deji's that bad. He's inconsistent but he had a few decent games last season at a higher level. His performance at RB against Forest at home was outstanding.Belv said:cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.9 -
Tweeted yesterday to say he's been injured but now back.Dazzler21 said:
If Wiredu ever reappears!cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.0 -
Just for a laugh, Agent Ainsley back at it
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Yes, Shooters ......... although we were comparing Taylor and Grant's opportunities of being offered a chance in the Prem.ShootersHillGuru said:
Schwartz is 31Oggy Red said:
Taylor is the one with 'football intelligence', but he's 30 years old.killerandflash said:
To me Taylor is a far better player than GrantOggy Red said:Some people comparing Bonne with Taylor or Grant.
Taylor had guile, passive aggression and ability with the ball. He played his football in his head first; if you like, Taylor had football intelligence.
Grant, well .... if I'm honest, I didn't see a lot of football intelligence, especially with some of his decision making; more that he has 2 or 3 ways of playing that he's perfected. He's a strong lad, can run with the ball and drive into the box, getting shots away.
Both of those players suited Bowyer's ideal gameplan with their hard running and slippery movement.
And especially worked well in tandem.
Bonne's a penalty box goal poacher. He doesn't create outside of the box, he's not a target man but he works hard and is a willing runner. He doesn't really create his own chances. But given a service into the box, his movement and anticipation is good - and while he misses chances, remember he's in the right place at the right time to miss them. But he'll convert enough of them, the law of averages takes care of that, as we saw with Bonne last season.
I do feel however, Bonne could help himself if he become a little more pro-active in making things happen, showing a little of Taylor's passive aggression but also to allow himself to play his own game - remember, football's a game played in the head, and in my IMO, that's where Bonne needs to make improvement.
But Grant is the one who earned a move to the PL and who is likely to be returning there, not Taylor...
If Taylor had been 21, performing well and freely scoring, I'm sure he could also have been snapped up by a lower Prem side.
Remember, in the Prem pace is important - Grant has more pace, more physical, and able to drive into the box with the ball.
That's a different set of attributes.
Schwarz is only being offered the chance to join a club that plays in the Third Division.
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Not that many though. His attacking runs caught the eye I'd agree, but defensively he looked a bit recklesscafcfan1990 said:
I don't think Deji's that bad. He's inconsistent but he had a few decent games last season at a higher level. His performance at RB against Forest at home was outstanding.Belv said:cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.0 -
cafcfan1990 said:
I don't think Deji's that bad. He's inconsistent but he had a few decent games last season at a higher level. His performance at RB against Forest at home was outstanding.Belv said:cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.
He played well that night, granted but can't think of another game where I've been that impressed. He's just not for me, he needs to be back-up and nothing more.2 -
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Which is why I think he's better at RB than CB. League 1 is definitely his level, that showed particularly in the second half of last season.killerandflash said:
Not that many though. His attacking runs caught the eye I'd agree, but defensively he looked a bit recklesscafcfan1990 said:
I don't think Deji's that bad. He's inconsistent but he had a few decent games last season at a higher level. His performance at RB against Forest at home was outstanding.Belv said:cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.1 -
Looks like Maddision's recent, "Nobody loves me. I've been forgotten. Come and get me" tweet has stirred up some interest.MattF said:Just for a laugh, Agent Ainsley back at it
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Shame really we could have signed that Blackpool striker Gnanduillet who we were linked with in January on a free transfer1
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I think Ainsley Harriott would be a fresh air as an agent....would make sure his players are well fed at least and nutritionally looked after for any prospective team!!1
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Agent talk, seems that he can't make his mind up, andMattF said:Just for a laugh, Agent Ainsley back at it
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A month apart and it's agentainsley a pisstake account.eastterrace6168 said:
Agent talk, seems that he can't make his mind up, andMattF said:Just for a laugh, Agent Ainsley back at it
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Dazzler21 said:
A month apart and it's agentainsley a pisstake account.eastterrace6168 said:
Agent talk, seems that he can't make his mind up, andMattF said:Just for a laugh, Agent Ainsley back at it
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So MS sowed the seed for Madison - I'll get me coat.0
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Ahhh, didn't see that
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Can we get a bite size transfer rumours thread please? Deary me8
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Any decent rumours go on the ITK thread, lately though it's all speculation outside of Schwartz who appears a hard rumour.Callumcafc said:Can we get a bite size transfer rumours thread please? Deary me0 -
Anyone can have the occasional good game, however overall i think Deji has been pretty poor and for me, we're a better side without him in it. But then what did we really expect of a player who had spent pretty much his entire career playing in either league 2 or the lower reaches of league 1.cafcfan1990 said:
I don't think Deji's that bad. He's inconsistent but he had a few decent games last season at a higher level. His performance at RB against Forest at home was outstanding.Belv said:cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.
If we want to win promotion then he's 4th choice CB at best and should only be played at RB in an emergency, which is probably what will happen once we sign a RB, a CB and Pearce returns.1 -
I imagine they'll be a host of talented full backs sitting in u 21 squads we can pick up on loan if Matthews doesn't sign. Or bring Solly back
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I just want to add that when Taylor got injured last year and Bonne scored away (Fulham, I think, on TV?), fans on here did think we’d found a Taylor replacement. He was playing well and scoring. He held up The ball way more than we expected in terms of forward play. The goal he scored that day was great. Having said that, 1.5m is a no brainer for us. It’s also not a great big punt by QPR - if he’s a success like a Grant was then they know how much they can make later on!0
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Deji's no Beckenbauer or even Beckensarr, but he's our utility defender. He's the plug when a hole appears.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Anyone can have the occasional good game, however overall i think Deji has been pretty poor and for me, we're a better side without him in it. But then what did we really expect of a player who had spent pretty much his entire career playing in either league 2 or the lower reaches of league 1.cafcfan1990 said:
I don't think Deji's that bad. He's inconsistent but he had a few decent games last season at a higher level. His performance at RB against Forest at home was outstanding.Belv said:cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.
If we want to win promotion then he's 4th choice CB at best and should only be played at RB in an emergency, which is probably what will happen once we sign a RB, a CB and Pearce returns.
And more or less, he normally does that reasonably competently - it's a hard role to play, never being settled for long in one position, yet every team needs one.
But we do need specialist players to play in their own specialist position.
And poor old Deji will still be plugging holes.
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Not at the moment we're not! He's our best RB and best RCB. Overall i don't disagree really with what you've said. Just think it's harsh to completely judge him on last season as he's not a Championship player. In the previous 4 years he played consistently at League 1 level so I believe he can be a solid job and his experience will be useful. I too though would be happier if a better CB comes in.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Anyone can have the occasional good game, however overall i think Deji has been pretty poor and for me, we're a better side without him in it. But then what did we really expect of a player who had spent pretty much his entire career playing in either league 2 or the lower reaches of league 1.cafcfan1990 said:
I don't think Deji's that bad. He's inconsistent but he had a few decent games last season at a higher level. His performance at RB against Forest at home was outstanding.Belv said:cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily. We could start Deji at RB and sign someone who is a back up. Then if the RCB gets injured Deji goes into the middle and the RB goes in. Also have Pratley and Barker as 5/6th choice CB's, plus Lapslie and Wiredu who can cover RB.killerandflash said:
But then we'd need 2 more CBs instead, as no way will Bowyer want Barker to be a regular in the side yetcafcfan1990 said:
That's another option and looking more likely. I'd be quite happy with Deji playing RB to be honest. We'd still need another one but could get a cheaper option as a squad player.Dazzler21 said:
I guess Matthews may be the one sacrificed for an U21 loanee, less dangerous than 2 young CB'scafcfan1990 said:
Be happy with that, would be 4 if Bonne stayed.Dazzler21 said:Guessing we're looking at 5 players still
Matthews
CB
Maddison
Schwartz
Another FW
I'm guessing the tricky bit is that the CB needs to be decent and if the above list is correct, probably U21.
Problem with that is, Deji plays almost every game when really, we need him to play as little as possible.
If we want to win promotion then he's 4th choice CB at best and should only be played at RB in an emergency, which is probably what will happen once we sign a RB, a CB and Pearce returns.2 -
It would be a real shame if we sacrificed Matthews for a loan, and a mistake in my opinion. Matthews is Championship standard for sure, one of the better RBs we've had at that level. I understand having concerns about loanees and game time, but if we're looking to go up and build then having a solid base of players is important, so we can focus on bringing in fewer, better players the next year rather than relying on loans and chopping and changing every season. If we get a RB in on loan we'll be looking around for a replacement in the summer regardless of whether we go up, and we'll do very well to find one of his standard either way. With Deji as back up to him as well we'll look ok at RB, so I'd prefer if we focused on getting in a permanent and loan CB17
