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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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I don’t quite get the angst. I haven’t heard all of MS’s pronouncements, but the signings, while hardly being household names, might turn out to be great. There are certainly zero known duds in there.Melrose said:JamesSeed said:
Why?Greenie Junior said:Matt Southall, what a wally
You are fucking joking? or a total wind up merchant?If he’s raised expectations and people are disappointed then that’s not good, but if Matt Smith and David Davis turn out to be good signings we’ll be happy.And they’ll have bought the club and negotiated their first transfer window while keeping their financial power dry, so to speak.3 -
Or you’re playing a sensible game of consolidation having just had the club change hands. The club has no chance of going up this year so will only attract mercenaries. Bowyer, Gallen and Southall can sell a vision to right kind of player in the summer.NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:10 -
The squad has pretty much the same make up as it did at the end of the last window. Plus Matthew, Oztumer and McGeady.
That's obviously by design. I said then I thought we were a striker and and top center half short. Possibly still are.
The midfield injuries we had were unbelievable really.
If MS hadn't banged on about it I would be pleased, but not over joyed, with that window.
As a whole window 7/10
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I assume we are all super happy that ESI decided that this transfer window was sooooo important that they decided not to actually buy the ground or Sparrows Lane at the moment but to concentrate on strengthening the squad.
RIght-o.3 -
You’d hope so but then we also hoped we’d spend a some money this window. Feels to me like it’s going to be another summer of loans and free’sValleyGary said:Greenie Junior said:So out of our current midfield we could only have 2 of them still here in summer if Williams doesn’t sign a new deal. Shambles.Surely we knew it was gonna be a total rebuild on the summer if we stay up?0 -
Really?NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:
Let's see in the summer.0 -
Dazzler21 said:
Loans aren't free.paulie8290 said:Still cant believe we spent no money either and it was just loans
Not free but not necessarily much more expensive then the three who have left in our breakeven budget, now swollen by a Fosu sell-on. Clearly we have signed who we could get rather than our preferred targets, which doesn’t mean they won’t do a job.
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On the SSN coverage they summed up the window as being a ‘loans window’7
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Assuming you’re trolling for lol’s.1
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Rossman92 said:While we haven't ended up with a big name striker like we all thought, I offer this
I would rather have a chairman who trys to get the fans excited, strengthens the squad, keeps our key assets, and has tried to build a good relationship with the fans, over a distant owner who hates the fans, doesnt try to sign anything, can and WILL sell our major assets and leave us bare bones.
Is that seriously our only option? Honestly, I would rather have a Chairman who does what he SAYS he will do and otherwise keeps his mouth shut if he can't deliver.
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AppyAddick said:
Really?NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:
Let's see in the summer.
Lot of good that will do if next summer we are back in League One.
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I'm heartened by the fact that the majority seem satisfied. I do hope MS learns from this though. Hyping everyone up then signing Matt Smith isn't the end of the world, but imagime suggesting there's not much going on then signing Toney. That's how you work the crowd.11
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Jan always is, just do enough to stay up.charlton_hero said:On the SSN coverage they summed up the window as being a ‘loans window’
Wait for the summer, if it's free agents and loans then I will not be "Appy"
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Yeh, maybe Southall could learn to tone down his excitement on social media, particularly if he didn’t manage to make the big signing announcement that he may have expected. I’m sure there’ll be plenty outraged twitterers to point out his perceived shortcomings.Regardless though, I do think there were many with unrealistic expectations from this window.
Southall said during the big prezzer the other week that there will be marquee signings, but he didn’t say they would be this January. Indeed I seem to recall him being clear that this window was all about staying in this league.
I suspect all of today’s signings will be from further down the list than first hoped but none the less, I am confident they will do the job. There’s almost 100 international caps between McGeady and Smith with experienced Championship campaigner Davis being just the sort of combative midfielder that we need to protect our back line.
A solid start, that will get us to the wholesale rebuild in the summertime. That is when ESI can truly be judged on their progress towards achieving the 5 year game plan.13 -
Valley11 said:
Great to hear. Now get him on a three year dealForeverAddickted said:
Lee Bowyer is happy and I'm happy because Lyle is still here. Matt Southall seems to have wound a few fans up who fell for his salesmanship on deadline day.
In the summer he will be more experienced and may need to curb his enthusiasm.
We need Lyle to be fully focused tomorrow and the crowd need to chant Lyle's name because he has been superb since he joined from Wimbledon.
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He strengthened the squad, kept Lyle, and signed Lee. Those were his top priorities. Yes we probabaly could have gotten more, you really think he wasnt trying??? I'm sure he had something bigger up his sleeve that never came off.NapaAddick said:Rossman92 said:While we haven't ended up with a big name striker like we all thought, I offer this
I would rather have a chairman who trys to get the fans excited, strengthens the squad, keeps our key assets, and has tried to build a good relationship with the fans, over a distant owner who hates the fans, doesnt try to sign anything, can and WILL sell our major assets and leave us bare bones.
Is that seriously our only option? Honestly, I would rather have a Chairman who does what he SAYS he will do and otherwise keeps his mouth shut if he can't deliver.
Agreed, he should wind it in a little bit just so expectations dont get too high (which they did), but at the end of the day when everyone gets over the social media blunder, this squad is good enough to keep us up. That is ALL that matters11 -
But he did deliver. He signed three players in a day. You might have decided they're not what you wanted or not good enough - though I doubt you've ever seen Smith play, or maybe even Davis - but we did a lot of business today. Given that our squad is talented but crippled, getting bodies in, which is exactly what Bowyer insisted was key, was necessary and we've pulled it off. It's been a good day for making sure that Bowyer can field a team that's not made up of youth players who aren't ready, and you know that Davis and McGeady are players he wanted. The walk has been walked, because the promise was that business would be done to strengthen the squad.NapaAddick said:Rossman92 said:While we haven't ended up with a big name striker like we all thought, I offer this
I would rather have a chairman who trys to get the fans excited, strengthens the squad, keeps our key assets, and has tried to build a good relationship with the fans, over a distant owner who hates the fans, doesnt try to sign anything, can and WILL sell our major assets and leave us bare bones.
Is that seriously our only option? Honestly, I would rather have a Chairman who does what he SAYS he will do and otherwise keeps his mouth shut if he can't deliver.
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Really? That's your take.NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:
Pessimism on here lately really grinds my gears. We've got in 4 decent midfield players. We retained all our players worth selling. Gallagher was never ours.
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We have essentially just signed. $3m + striker in Lyle. Quality retention.4
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No, silence is not the alternative. Silence would be an alternative. Another alternative would have been not to big-up possible super-duper signings and just say that we're looking to bring in a few solid players on loan.Redrobo said:Love Southall and all his media stuff. Take it all with a pinch of salt, bit of fun. At least we knew they were on it, and I am pleased with the result. I never expected a big signing. I think we had one on the hook. Next time, maybe? That’s football.
The alternative is silence. Bugger that.
That said, not losing Taylor is massive. Signing up Bows for three years is massive. Getting rid of Roland is massive. Getting our Charlton back is massive.
Shrugged off Fulham trying to nick our youngsters. Long may that attitude continue. Not getting mugged off by other clubs. Long may that continue.
That would have been more honest.4 -
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He didn't say marquee signings this window and I wasn't expecting any.
I would of liked some balance. A mixture of loans and permanents across a variety of positions.
Instead we got 4 midfielders. All on loan!2 -
Makes you wonder when Davis came in after Fosu signed for Brentford.Airman Brown said:Dazzler21 said:
Loans aren't free.paulie8290 said:Still cant believe we spent no money either and it was just loans
Not free but not necessarily much more expensive then the three who have left in our breakeven budget, now swollen by a Fosu sell-on. Clearly we have signed who we could get rather than our preferred targets, which doesn’t mean they won’t do a job.1 -
You say clearly, Green was done very early so we clearly wanted him.Airman Brown said:Dazzler21 said:
Loans aren't free.paulie8290 said:Still cant believe we spent no money either and it was just loans
Not free but not necessarily much more expensive then the three who have left in our breakeven budget, now swollen by a Fosu sell-on. Clearly we have signed who we could get rather than our preferred targets, which doesn’t mean they won’t do a job.
Bow has always spoken of how much he rates McGeady, so we clearly wanted him.
Sure Smith and Davis were unexpected but I believe we wanted those first two for sure.0 -
Fair enough. I'm not convinced that many of us know...then read the rest.Garrymanilow said:
David Davis has played going on for 200 Championship games for Birmingham since 2014 and has captained the side at times. I think we know a bit about himWheresmeticket? said:I'm not convinced that any of us know what any of threse 4 signings are capable of with the possible exception of McGeady, even less when they play together and in a team with the likes of Taylor and Williams, Field and Cullen.
I look forward to some good partnerships forming there.
We aren't going to get promoted this season but now I really don't think we are going to be relegated and we could be in for some entertaining football.
And that will do me.0 -
You are soooo good at this!golfaddick said:I assume we are all super happy that ESI decided that this transfer window was sooooo important that they decided not to actually buy the ground or Sparrows Lane at the moment but to concentrate on strengthening the squad.
RIght-o.
The window was massive.
Bows would have left before the sale if our Chairman had not intervened IMO.
Taylor would have buggered off.
Fans would not be so engaged.
Roland would still own us
Docherty would have gone IMO
We would be going down.
The new owners will own it all lock stock and barrel in a couple of months. The training ground will be built to the highest specifications, the squad will be improved, fans will return.
Hold my hand, I will help you through this.
COYR “ the only way is up, baby”.
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But did he? Or was he just announced late?Cafc43v3r said:
Makes you wonder when Davis came in after Fosu signed for Brentford.Airman Brown said:Dazzler21 said:
Loans aren't free.paulie8290 said:Still cant believe we spent no money either and it was just loans
Not free but not necessarily much more expensive then the three who have left in our breakeven budget, now swollen by a Fosu sell-on. Clearly we have signed who we could get rather than our preferred targets, which doesn’t mean they won’t do a job.0 -
How is not losing your best player aiming low? Surely its the complete opposite and shows ambition. There's so many variables when you buy players in, that keeping hold of your best players and youth who are already proven to do well at your club is so so valuable.Dazzler21 said:
Really? That's your take.NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:
Pessimism on here lately really grinds my gears. We've got in 4 decent midfield players. We retained all our players worth selling. Gallagher was never ours.3 -
From the team that beat Leeds 1-0, we’ve only lost Gallagher and Leko. Taylor didn’t play. We’ve gained Green, McGeady, Smith, Davis.21
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If we were just after "bodies" then surely we could have brought in players earlier in the window? Waiting until the 31st January to sign 3 loan signings isn't great when Bowyer was crying out for players weeks ago.Garrymanilow said:
But he did deliver. He signed three players in a day. You might have decided they're not what you wanted or not good enough - though I doubt you've ever seen Smith play, or maybe even Davis - but we did a lot of business today. Given that our squad is talented but crippled, getting bodies in, which is exactly what Bowyer insisted was key, was necessary and we've pulled it off. It's been a good day for making sure that Bowyer can field a team that's not made up of youth players who aren't ready, and you know that Davis and McGeady are players he wanted. The walk has been walked, because the promise was that business would be done to strengthen the squad.NapaAddick said:Rossman92 said:While we haven't ended up with a big name striker like we all thought, I offer this
I would rather have a chairman who trys to get the fans excited, strengthens the squad, keeps our key assets, and has tried to build a good relationship with the fans, over a distant owner who hates the fans, doesnt try to sign anything, can and WILL sell our major assets and leave us bare bones.
Is that seriously our only option? Honestly, I would rather have a Chairman who does what he SAYS he will do and otherwise keeps his mouth shut if he can't deliver.4 -
Why would we be back in L1? We've got 4 talented midfielders in and have Taylor Field, Williams, Cullen back in and can look forward to Bonne back soon. I don't think we are going to go down now.NapaAddick said:AppyAddick said:
Really?NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:
Let's see in the summer.
Lot of good that will do if next summer we are back in League One.3
