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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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There was a Pot Noodle, a can of Red Bull and a peninsula.JamesSeed said:
Ok, it’s like this,ross1 said:
Sorry, have I missed something, what is this about a takeover?CharltonByBlood said:I wonder what will happen first, the takeover or the takeover thread actually being about the takeover
a very long time ago, in a distant land....0 -
I wont be satisfied until Charlton win the Premier League and Champions League double.LargeAddick said:To_Be_Franck said:
You've mis-understood.Addickted said:To_Be_Franck said:
I think that our squad was clearly a cut above that year, and I am yet to be convinced they were all players of his choosing.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
You mean players like Bradley Wright-Philips, Danny Green, Danny Hollands, Dale Stephens, Matt Taylor, Rhoys Wiggins, Ben Hamer, Bradley Pritchard and of course Yann Kermorgant?
That lot can't hold a candle up to the likes of Nego, Parzyszek, Thuram, Koc, Tudgay
I agree they are better players. Hence why we smashed the league....I'm not sure he recommended them all is I am saying.
I thought he was tactically naive at times and don't think we currently have a squad like those years ago where that can be hidden by the fact it's the strongest squad.
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Thank goodness it was you that answered, after I put it I thought, oh no, someone will try and put it all downJamesSeed said:
Ok, it’s like this,ross1 said:
Sorry, have I missed something, what is this about a takeover?CharltonByBlood said:I wonder what will happen first, the takeover or the takeover thread actually being about the takeover
a very long time ago, in a distant land....
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At leastTo_Be_Franck said:
I wont be satisfied until Charlton win the Premier League and Champions League double.LargeAddick said:To_Be_Franck said:
You've mis-understood.Addickted said:To_Be_Franck said:
I think that our squad was clearly a cut above that year, and I am yet to be convinced they were all players of his choosing.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
You mean players like Bradley Wright-Philips, Danny Green, Danny Hollands, Dale Stephens, Matt Taylor, Rhoys Wiggins, Ben Hamer, Bradley Pritchard and of course Yann Kermorgant?
That lot can't hold a candle up to the likes of Nego, Parzyszek, Thuram, Koc, Tudgay
I agree they are better players. Hence why we smashed the league....I'm not sure he recommended them all is I am saying.
I thought he was tactically naive at times and don't think we currently have a squad like those years ago where that can be hidden by the fact it's the strongest squad.
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and a Sheila...The Red Robin said:
There was a Pot Noodle, a can of Red Bull and a peninsula.JamesSeed said:
Ok, it’s like this,ross1 said:
Sorry, have I missed something, what is this about a takeover?CharltonByBlood said:I wonder what will happen first, the takeover or the takeover thread actually being about the takeover
a very long time ago, in a distant land....1 -
So another day looks like slipping away. Hope it’s soon.1
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Australia?JamesSeed said:
Ok, it’s like this,ross1 said:
Sorry, have I missed something, what is this about a takeover?CharltonByBlood said:I wonder what will happen first, the takeover or the takeover thread actually being about the takeover
a very long time ago, in a distant land....4 -
The squad needs rebuilding again whoever comes in. Several loanees gone, Konsa sold, possibly Kashi released and big weaknesses in various positions with the players left. Most of the squad are out of contract next summer, so decisions will need to be made in the near future about them all either way.To_Be_Franck said:
Lots of "we's" in there. Doesn't say who identified them as targets in the first place before Powell said yes or no when it came to being a good fit with the squad dynamics.Addickted said:
Pretty sure he did. In is own words...…To_Be_Franck said:
You've mis-understood.Addickted said:To_Be_Franck said:
I think that our squad was clearly a cut above that year, and I am yet to be convinced they were all players of his choosing.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
You mean players like Bradley Wright-Philips, Danny Green, Danny Hollands, Dale Stephens, Matt Taylor, Rhoys Wiggins, Ben Hamer, Bradley Pritchard and of course Yann Kermorgant?
That lot can't hold a candle up to the likes of Nego, Parzyszek, Thuram, Koc, Tudgay
I agree they are better players. Hence why we smashed the league....I'm not sure he recommended them all is I am saying.
I thought he was tactically naive at times and don't think we currently have a squad like those years ago where that can be hidden by the fact it's the strongest squad.
"My first six months gave me time to look at the squad. Time to see the disconnect between the club and the fans. There was a downbeat feeling that I knew we could change if we got the supporters on side. So, I asked everyone to trust me. I asked the supporters to trust me. And we made big changes.
That summer we signed 16 players. Building momentum It was a bold step but I felt I needed to do it. The club needed new heroes. A new way of thinking. People say that players need time to gel, but we put a lot of planning and foresight into our recruitment to make sure that time was as brief as possible. We made sure that the players we brought in could handle not only playing in League One, but that if things went well, could stay with us in the Championship.
I wanted players who I felt could grow organically, with the club.
The squad we have now, in my opinion, is decent but not proportionally better than the other teams as per last time around so Powell will either need to step up a gear from last time, or replace them.... and that leads to the question whether Gallen and his team as strong as Ventre and his team were1 -
Maybe selecting the players isn't a requirement. As you say, coaching and scouting teams help - but will they be as strong this time around? Was it the previous coaching and scouting that GAVE CP the best team in the league to work with? Could we do that again?Scoham said:
They don't like CharltonLife/CARD, i.e. many of the Charlton fans that see Powell as a legend and a good manager.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
Why would that be a requirement? Of course he didn't do it on his own, but all managers should have plenty of help in that area from their coaching and scouting teams.To_Be_Franck said:
You've mis-understood.Addickted said:To_Be_Franck said:
I think that our squad was clearly a cut above that year, and I am yet to be convinced they were all players of his choosing.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
You mean players like Bradley Wright-Philips, Danny Green, Danny Hollands, Dale Stephens, Matt Taylor, Rhoys Wiggins, Ben Hamer, Bradley Pritchard and of course Yann Kermorgant?
That lot can't hold a candle up to the likes of Nego, Parzyszek, Thuram, Koc, Tudgay
I agree they are better players. Hence why we smashed the league....I'm not sure he recommended them all is I am saying.
I thought he was tactically naive at times and don't think we currently have a squad like those years ago where that can be hidden by the fact it's the strongest squad.
Morrison and Yann were at Leicester so he'd have known them. Yann was his best signing and Morrison one of the best.
I agree with those that said they'd be happy with Bowyer, Powell or Nathan Jones.
Are there 16 odd players from league 1 and on the fringes of Championship that we could attract & sign (times have changed considerably in the past couple of years) to repeat the same feat? Maybe...let's see.
I just don't see CP as the miracle worker that some others do.
No racism, no agenda, no WUMMING...Just not as hung up on Powell as some other fans
And just to get you all going...I think Curbs was partially to blame for our relegation from the Prem - but perhaps I'll leave that for another day
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I'd like us to hire Chris Powell as manager.
But if someone can point to a former Charlton manager who has signed better players than Powell, overall, I would be happy if we hired that person instead.4 - Sponsored links:
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Can assure you that Jeff Vetere contributed very little. Wasn’t his level at all.To_Be_Franck said:
Lots of "we's" in there. Doesn't say who identified them as targets in the first place before Powell said yes or no when it came to being a good fit with the squad dynamics.Addickted said:
Pretty sure he did. In is own words...…To_Be_Franck said:
You've mis-understood.Addickted said:To_Be_Franck said:
I think that our squad was clearly a cut above that year, and I am yet to be convinced they were all players of his choosing.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
You mean players like Bradley Wright-Philips, Danny Green, Danny Hollands, Dale Stephens, Matt Taylor, Rhoys Wiggins, Ben Hamer, Bradley Pritchard and of course Yann Kermorgant?
That lot can't hold a candle up to the likes of Nego, Parzyszek, Thuram, Koc, Tudgay
I agree they are better players. Hence why we smashed the league....I'm not sure he recommended them all is I am saying.
I thought he was tactically naive at times and don't think we currently have a squad like those years ago where that can be hidden by the fact it's the strongest squad.
"My first six months gave me time to look at the squad. Time to see the disconnect between the club and the fans. There was a downbeat feeling that I knew we could change if we got the supporters on side. So, I asked everyone to trust me. I asked the supporters to trust me. And we made big changes.
That summer we signed 16 players. Building momentum It was a bold step but I felt I needed to do it. The club needed new heroes. A new way of thinking. People say that players need time to gel, but we put a lot of planning and foresight into our recruitment to make sure that time was as brief as possible. We made sure that the players we brought in could handle not only playing in League One, but that if things went well, could stay with us in the Championship.
I wanted players who I felt could grow organically, with the club.
The squad we have now, in my opinion, is decent but not proportionally better than the other teams as per last time around so Powell will either need to step up a gear from last time, or replace them.... and that leads to the question whether Gallen and his team as strong as Ventre and his team were4 -
Why does the new manager have to meet that criteria then?Chizz said:I'd like us to hire Chris Powell as manager.
But if someone can point to a former Charlton manager who has signed better players than Powell, overall, I would be happy if we hired that person instead.1 -
Powell and Phil Chapple.Airman Brown said:
Can assure you that Jeff Vetere contributed very little. Wasn’t his level at all.To_Be_Franck said:
Lots of "we's" in there. Doesn't say who identified them as targets in the first place before Powell said yes or no when it came to being a good fit with the squad dynamics.Addickted said:
Pretty sure he did. In is own words...…To_Be_Franck said:
You've mis-understood.Addickted said:To_Be_Franck said:
I think that our squad was clearly a cut above that year, and I am yet to be convinced they were all players of his choosing.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
You mean players like Bradley Wright-Philips, Danny Green, Danny Hollands, Dale Stephens, Matt Taylor, Rhoys Wiggins, Ben Hamer, Bradley Pritchard and of course Yann Kermorgant?
That lot can't hold a candle up to the likes of Nego, Parzyszek, Thuram, Koc, Tudgay
I agree they are better players. Hence why we smashed the league....I'm not sure he recommended them all is I am saying.
I thought he was tactically naive at times and don't think we currently have a squad like those years ago where that can be hidden by the fact it's the strongest squad.
"My first six months gave me time to look at the squad. Time to see the disconnect between the club and the fans. There was a downbeat feeling that I knew we could change if we got the supporters on side. So, I asked everyone to trust me. I asked the supporters to trust me. And we made big changes.
That summer we signed 16 players. Building momentum It was a bold step but I felt I needed to do it. The club needed new heroes. A new way of thinking. People say that players need time to gel, but we put a lot of planning and foresight into our recruitment to make sure that time was as brief as possible. We made sure that the players we brought in could handle not only playing in League One, but that if things went well, could stay with us in the Championship.
I wanted players who I felt could grow organically, with the club.
The squad we have now, in my opinion, is decent but not proportionally better than the other teams as per last time around so Powell will either need to step up a gear from last time, or replace them.... and that leads to the question whether Gallen and his team as strong as Ventre and his team were1 -
Will take your word on that - I have no idea at all. There were also rumours that D.Wise had a say in recruitment.Airman Brown said:
Can assure you that Jeff Vetere contributed very little. Wasn’t his level at all.To_Be_Franck said:
Lots of "we's" in there. Doesn't say who identified them as targets in the first place before Powell said yes or no when it came to being a good fit with the squad dynamics.Addickted said:
Pretty sure he did. In is own words...…To_Be_Franck said:
You've mis-understood.Addickted said:To_Be_Franck said:
I think that our squad was clearly a cut above that year, and I am yet to be convinced they were all players of his choosing.gilbertfilbert said:
No. How do you explain it? Most successful manager we’ve had for years, loves our club, loves the fans, all round lovely human being, and some people insist on hating him. Why?To_Be_Franck said:
Hope that was a poor attempt at a jokegilbertfilbert said:charltonbob said:"Quote" rel="The Red Robin">That lot on the other site getting in a right state about SCP potentially being manager. Love it.
I wonder what could possibly motivate all this furious opposition to the black manager Chris Powell?
You mean players like Bradley Wright-Philips, Danny Green, Danny Hollands, Dale Stephens, Matt Taylor, Rhoys Wiggins, Ben Hamer, Bradley Pritchard and of course Yann Kermorgant?
That lot can't hold a candle up to the likes of Nego, Parzyszek, Thuram, Koc, Tudgay
I agree they are better players. Hence why we smashed the league....I'm not sure he recommended them all is I am saying.
I thought he was tactically naive at times and don't think we currently have a squad like those years ago where that can be hidden by the fact it's the strongest squad.
"My first six months gave me time to look at the squad. Time to see the disconnect between the club and the fans. There was a downbeat feeling that I knew we could change if we got the supporters on side. So, I asked everyone to trust me. I asked the supporters to trust me. And we made big changes.
That summer we signed 16 players. Building momentum It was a bold step but I felt I needed to do it. The club needed new heroes. A new way of thinking. People say that players need time to gel, but we put a lot of planning and foresight into our recruitment to make sure that time was as brief as possible. We made sure that the players we brought in could handle not only playing in League One, but that if things went well, could stay with us in the Championship.
I wanted players who I felt could grow organically, with the club.
The squad we have now, in my opinion, is decent but not proportionally better than the other teams as per last time around so Powell will either need to step up a gear from last time, or replace them.... and that leads to the question whether Gallen and his team as strong as Ventre and his team were
I guess in simple terms all I am saying is that just because CP smashed the league before, doesn't mean he will do so again. I believe it was the squad strength, not necessarily CP's managerial ability that got us promoted1 -
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I know I had said I had gone completely nuts earlier, but the truth is I was holding a little bit back, just in case.
So I am going to give it another hour, then I’m really going for it.
I wont be able to bear it when the missus asks if the sale has really gone through this time. It will be the look of pity I’ll get that will send me over the edge.
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I feel your pain brother!3blokes said:I know I had said I had gone completely nuts earlier, but the truth is I was holding a little bit back, just in case.
So I am going to give it another hour, then I’m really going for it.
I wont be able to bear it when the missus asks if the sale has really gone through this time. It will be the look of pity I’ll get that will send me over the edge.0 -
Just surmising here, but now talk, on this thread, has turned to the recruitment abilities of CP (or not as the case may be) coupled with no 'Tweets', or update posts from those in the know, I don't suppose I'd be far wrong if I were to say " I doubt anything is happening today"!
Therefore, we move onto tomorrow (if indeed an announcement is to be made before the World Cup starts) or Friday, or like every week (for the last god knows how long), it'll be happening next week, whenever next week is!!
My concern is, if everything is supposedly now in place, what on earth is stopping an announcement being made? The new season gets ever closer, but, we as a club, lose more players each week with no signs of any replacements!! We could be really scraping the barrel, whoever the manager is, just trying to get a half-decent team together. My concern grows as each day passes now, and I fear we are falling too far behind our competitors. I so hope I'm wrong and plans are well-advanced to make sure we are in a good position to start pre-season, but I'm not holding my breath to be honest.0 -
Could events elsewhere throw the whole takeover into chaos?0
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Noharveys_gardener said:Could events elsewhere throw the whole takeover into chaos?
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He wouldn't have to. But if he did, I'd be happy if we signed him.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Why does the new manager have to meet that criteria then?Chizz said:I'd like us to hire Chris Powell as manager.
But if someone can point to a former Charlton manager who has signed better players than Powell, overall, I would be happy if we hired that person instead.0 -
Another day hoping that the Takeover will go through. Another day disappointed. I really can't see it being done by the end of this week.0
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We will get the players in January, as before, in desperationRedmidland said:Just surmising here, but now talk, on this thread, has turned to the recruitment abilities of CP (or not as the case may be) coupled with no 'Tweets', or update posts from those in the know, I don't suppose I'd be far wrong if I were to say " I doubt anything is happening today"!
Therefore, we move onto tomorrow (if indeed an announcement is to be made before the World Cup starts) or Friday, or like every week (for the last god knows how long), it'll be happening next week, whenever next week is!!
My concern is, if everything is supposedly now in place, what on earth is stopping an announcement being made? The new season gets ever closer, but, we as a club, lose more players each week with no signs of any replacements!! We could be really scraping the barrel, whoever the manager is, just trying to get a half-decent team together. My concern grows as each day passes now, and I fear we are falling too far behind our competitors. I so hope I'm wrong and plans are well-advanced to make sure we are in a good position to start pre-season, but I'm not holding my breath to be honest. 1 -
What events?harveys_gardener said:Could events elsewhere throw the whole takeover into chaos?
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Muir has philanthropic tendencies.LargeAddick said:0 -
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The Konsa deal? Who knows but can understand why you may feel that wayharveys_gardener said:Could events elsewhere throw the whole takeover into chaos?
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Aussies getting spanked in the cricket?1
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