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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Last couple of days of Holiday...
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Did you ever find out what went wrong/changed @Airman Brown ?Airman Brown said:Not all my info has come from the Aussie camp by any means - for example some has come from intermediaries, some acting on behalf of Duchatelet. The club’s own lawyers believed it was a done deal in February, for example. It also came from the Aussie camp, but it was the legal source that made me take it seriously.
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Think someone else came back to the table, either in reality or in someone’s imagination. Obviously the whole process involves a lot of posturing by all parties so it’s probably not that surprising.Henry Irving said:
Did you ever find out what went wrong/changed @Airman Brown ?Airman Brown said:Not all my info has come from the Aussie camp by any means - for example some has come from intermediaries, some acting on behalf of Duchatelet. The club’s own lawyers believed it was a done deal in February, for example. It also came from the Aussie camp, but it was the legal source that made me take it seriously.
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I am well aware of the possibility that I am a conduit for 'the seller' and I choose what I put on here - I could have put a lot more other than its nota done deal last week but 1) was asked not to and 2) wouldn't have anyway because i have no desire to be part of any negotiating stance and to think that my posts are is complete fantasy. I updated the board that it is not just a case of announcing things and that the deal was still being thrashed out. That is all - all the rest is what other people have imagined. Some people say i'm a WUM then others say I'm peddling RM's lies whereas the reality is I give information to this board direct from the inner sanctum of the takeover and get nothing but shit for it. That's fine by me but when others get a bit sensitive and can't take a bit back, it gets silly. It weren't me that started the ITK race thing - it was a bit of banter from somebody but unfortunately there are quite a few on her lacking the wit to recognise what is and isn't a bit of banter. I'll say it again - all that matters to me is that we get this thing done and a bright future for Charlton. I've said it. Who stays or goes from within the upper reaches of the club really does not bother me, regardless of who some think I get my info from.SouthLincsAddick said:
I Agree.golfaddick said:
Actually, I for one, understood what you were trying to say. Maybe the Aussies are trying to put a better spin on things, purely because they know us fans have had to put up with a lot of shit over the past 4 years & deserve some good news for once....and because the the club is saying diddly squat they want at least some news to be put out there.Which leads me to my HOWEVER....DOUCHER said:
the aussies give a more optimistic account, not u. jesus, like pulling teeth on hereJamesSeed said:
It's not rose tinted. It's a factual account of what they said. No spin whatsoever.DOUCHER said:
Once again forthright DOUCHER unilaterally marks position - no wind up - info from seller side as opposed to all others apart from NLA, hence why all the usual r getting their knickers in a twist and calling me a WUM - the Aussie originated info is more rose tinted than mine and always has been but if u don't want to know what's really happening, ignore my postsTo_Be_Franck said:What is OAFDUMP
Its been driving me nuts for weeks
you said that its not seen that way from the sellers point of view. Seeing as there is literally no-one on the sellers side who knows anything apart from RD himself, then I'd say you are being fed by him, or by someone very close to him (and if that person is UK based it can only be RM)....so please excuse me if I say that the news you are being fed is being done on purpose to muddy the waters, to cause us angst & to make us doubt the Aussies...
I have stayed well clear of all the willy waving & all the I said/ you said crap.....but you have clearly been wrong on at least 2 occasions - once over DD & again over the lodgment of papers to the EFL and I believe you will ultimately be found out again
3 strikes & your out mr Duchatelet....
Now NLA and Doucher have revealed their sources are from within the current regime it explains why they are so hostile to Airman's and Jimmy's info which is direct from the Aussie's. They may not realise it themselves but they seem to be briefing against the Aussie consortium on Roland's behalf. Of course the Aussie's are optimistic, that's their negotiating position and any info coming from the current regime will pour cold water on any Aussie claims. We've no idea what the Aussie's will really be like but we do know how deluded Roland can be and that he rarely deals in the truth. After saying that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the two positions.6 -
Konsa gone out of nowhere. It's happening isn't it0
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There are some supporters who still refuse to acknowledge he had little interest in progressing through winning matches, even though he told us and his skivvy alluded to it in Dublin.Henry Irving said:
Of course but how different things might have been if we'd known Duchatelet didn't care about winning games from the start?carly burn said:
What kind of exit strategy do you think the fans would like to hear?Henry Irving said:
Perhaps but what's the exit strategy?Pedro45 said:
Five year plans get updated every year, so in five years, we have a new five year plan! Part of any five year plan could be to use the exit strategy at any appropriate stage...Henry Irving said:
Sounds like he's been talking directly to the Aussies. That's a sales pitch to the fans. Not complaining as they are already sounding more open and ambitious than Duchatelet.Redhenry said:
His sources are usually pretty good.The Red Robin said:
All sounds good but what happens in five years time if we aren't in the premier league? Or even if we are?
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Because that's the one you're probably going to get.4 -
Yes and because of them attending games Duchatalet lasted as long as he did.TellyTubby said:
There are some supporters who still refuse to acknowledge he had little interest in progressing through winning matches, even though he told us and his skivvy alluded to it in Dublin.Henry Irving said:
Of course but how different things might have been if we'd known Duchatelet didn't care about winning games from the start?carly burn said:
What kind of exit strategy do you think the fans would like to hear?Henry Irving said:
Perhaps but what's the exit strategy?Pedro45 said:
Five year plans get updated every year, so in five years, we have a new five year plan! Part of any five year plan could be to use the exit strategy at any appropriate stage...Henry Irving said:
Sounds like he's been talking directly to the Aussies. That's a sales pitch to the fans. Not complaining as they are already sounding more open and ambitious than Duchatelet.Redhenry said:
His sources are usually pretty good.The Red Robin said:
All sounds good but what happens in five years time if we aren't in the premier league? Or even if we are?
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Because that's the one you're probably going to get.5 -
Just a note to all on this thread. It's not so much what you post, it's how you go about it.
If you act like a dick, expect to get yanked.36 -
If we have the money coming in why haven’t we tied him down?Laddick01 said:Konsa gone out of nowhere. It's happening isn't it
I can understand the lad wants to progress and good luck to Ez but this is now yet another player we need to replace in a short period of time! Surely this means Bauer is staying?2 - Sponsored links:
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A player like Konsa isn’t what you need to get out of this league, if you can get a few million for a player that probably isn’t even in the top 20 in the league then there’s no complaints. Don’t see this as nearly as much of a loss as Lookman and Gomez.25
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I agree totally in principle, issue is the money is going to RD as a final payday and not back into the squad.cafc_harry said:A player like Konsa isn’t what you need to get out of this league, if you can get a few million for a player that probably isn’t even in the top 20 in the league then there’s no complaints. Don’t see this as nearly as much of a loss as Lookman and Gomez.
However, losing Konsa to get rid of RD is a result if it is the case.6 -
That’s how I see it too.cafc_harry said:A player like Konsa isn’t what you need to get out of this league, if you can get a few million for a player that probably isn’t even in the top 20 in the league then there’s no complaints. Don’t see this as nearly as much of a loss as Lookman and Gomez.
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Shocked its Brentford to be honest as it came out of nowhere.
As someone else said he may have picked (if he had a choice) to go to Brentford as he will get more playing time. Good luck to him.
Does this mean the end is in sight for the old turd? Lets fecking hope so!1 -
You don't know that for certain though. We can all agree that RD is a wanker. But do you really think the Aussies would buy the club and in the mean time just watch RD asset strip it and still pay the same amount for the club?Covered_End_Lad said:
I agree totally in principle, issue is the money is going to RD as a final payday and not back into the squad.cafc_harry said:A player like Konsa isn’t what you need to get out of this league, if you can get a few million for a player that probably isn’t even in the top 20 in the league then there’s no complaints. Don’t see this as nearly as much of a loss as Lookman and Gomez.
However, losing Konsa to get rid of RD is a result if it is the case.
I'm sure player sales and season ticket sales will be staying with the club. Obviously we can avoid buying season tickets until the sale in case RD is profitting, but if we think about it sensibly he's not.
Nobody in their right mind would buy any business if, during negotiations, the current owners were selling off some significant aspects of the value of that business.3 -
how is this Konsa shit good news ????? if its "getting tbe deal over the line" then its telling us the Aussies were 2mill adrift of RDs valuation ???? but instead of paying that they agreed the difference could be made up by the sale of a player -----but no fecking worries they will invest in the squad when they eventually take over !!!!!!!!!!
its bollox on bollox on lies and false shit
and burger boy still has a job2 -
It dont mean that necessary though.Goonerhater said:how is this Konsa shit good news ????? if its "getting tbe deal over the line" then its telling us the Aussies were 2mill adrift of RDs valuation ???? but instead of paying that they agreed the difference could be made up by the sale of a player -----but no fecking worries they will invest in the squad when they eventually take over !!!!!!!!!!
its bollox on bollox on lies and false shit
and burger boy still has a job
Konza may have wanted to go even had an gentlemen agreement in place and that is just be honoured.
Might be the Aussie's are happy to sell and use the money.
The truth is we dont know.1 -
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Nah, the odious old cnut is just hoping to stock up on even cheaper duct tape so he never needs replace another shoe as long as he lives.Fanny Fanackapan said:
He's clearly here after learning that Pound World is going into administration...Essex_Al said:Colin stating RD is in the country until Wednesday.
Could it finally happen?
...and has decided to enter the unknown territory of discount stores for his next mission en route to world domination.
W*nker World, anyone ?1 - Sponsored links:
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That's a very generous view and it does you credit. We know for certain that Duchatelet doesn't give a flying fuck what we Charlton fans think of him. If he has been feeding info it has either been to work out where the leaks are at Floyd Road or to have a useful idiot to raise some smoke, create some white noise amid the relentless cacophony of hate, humiliation and derision aimed squarely at him for the last 40 odd months. Everything sourced from this regime has been shown to be unreliable, at best. Theirs has been an unbroken stream of piss, uniquely described as rain, by the smell of it theirs is a diet exclusively of sugar puffs, corned beef and asparagus.SouthLincsAddick said:
I Agree.golfaddick said:
Actually, I for one, understood what you were trying to say. Maybe the Aussies are trying to put a better spin on things, purely because they know us fans have had to put up with a lot of shit over the past 4 years & deserve some good news for once....and because the the club is saying diddly squat they want at least some news to be put out there.Which leads me to my HOWEVER....DOUCHER said:
the aussies give a more optimistic account, not u. jesus, like pulling teeth on hereJamesSeed said:
It's not rose tinted. It's a factual account of what they said. No spin whatsoever.DOUCHER said:
Once again forthright DOUCHER unilaterally marks position - no wind up - info from seller side as opposed to all others apart from NLA, hence why all the usual r getting their knickers in a twist and calling me a WUM - the Aussie originated info is more rose tinted than mine and always has been but if u don't want to know what's really happening, ignore my postsTo_Be_Franck said:What is OAFDUMP
Its been driving me nuts for weeks
you said that its not seen that way from the sellers point of view. Seeing as there is literally no-one on the sellers side who knows anything apart from RD himself, then I'd say you are being fed by him, or by someone very close to him (and if that person is UK based it can only be RM)....so please excuse me if I say that the news you are being fed is being done on purpose to muddy the waters, to cause us angst & to make us doubt the Aussies...
I have stayed well clear of all the willy waving & all the I said/ you said crap.....but you have clearly been wrong on at least 2 occasions - once over DD & again over the lodgment of papers to the EFL and I believe you will ultimately be found out again
3 strikes & your out mr Duchatelet....
Now NLA and Doucher have revealed their sources are from within the current regime it explains why they are so hostile to Airman's and Jimmy's info which is direct from the Aussies. They may not realise it themselves but they seem to be briefing against the Aussie consortium on Roland's behalf. Of course the Aussies are optimistic, that's their negotiating position and any info coming from the current regime will pour cold water on any Aussie claims. We've no idea what the Aussies will really be like but we do know how deluded Roland can be and that he rarely deals in the truth. After saying that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the two positions.1 -
Looks a nice place @Dazzler21Dazzler21 said:Last couple of days of Holiday...
Feck this thread
600 posts of bs and speculative bs since Thursday.
Dubai??
Cheap sun loungers though!!
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Each day that goes by without a change of owner is a major blow to the 2018/19 season.
Remember when we signed Simon Church and Sordell a week before the season started a few years ago because of the shocking end of the Slater/ Jimenez and no Cash left era.
CAFC must stop being a joke club, if you still have patience then good for you.
Just over Ten years ago we were beating Chelsea, spurs, West ham etc now we lose to Wimbledon and Gillingham. We are a third tier club who need to be reinvented quickly, each day is another nail in that coffin.18 -
Just over ten years ago we were still losing to Gillingham, it was just in the FA Cupsoapboxsam said:Each day that goes by without a change of owner is a major blow to the 2018/19 season.
Remember when we signed Simon Church and Sordell a week before the season started a few years ago because of the shocking end of the Slater/ Jimenez and no Cash left era.
CAFC must stop being a joke club, if you still have patience then good for you.
Just over Ten years ago we were beating Chelsea, spurs, West ham etc now we lose to Wimbledon and Gillingham. We are a third tier club who need to be reinvented quickly, each day is another nail in that coffin.10 -
Thought I'd take the risk :-)RedChaser said:1 -
Who's the aussies useful idiots, airman, Cawley or more recently jimmy seed? None of whom I think are idiots by the wayStigThundercock said:
That's a very generous view and it does you credit. We know for certain that Duchatelet doesn't give a flying fuck what we Charlton fans think of him. If he has been feeding info it has either been to work out where the leaks are at Floyd Road or to have a useful idiot to raise some smoke, create some white noise amid the relentless cacophony of hate, humiliation and derision aimed squarely at him for the last 40 odd months. Everything sourced from this regime has been shown to be unreliable, at best. Theirs has been an unbroken stream of piss, uniquely described as rain, by the smell of it theirs is a diet exclusively of sugar puffs, corned beef and asparagus.SouthLincsAddick said:
I Agree.golfaddick said:
Actually, I for one, understood what you were trying to say. Maybe the Aussies are trying to put a better spin on things, purely because they know us fans have had to put up with a lot of shit over the past 4 years & deserve some good news for once....and because the the club is saying diddly squat they want at least some news to be put out there.Which leads me to my HOWEVER....DOUCHER said:
the aussies give a more optimistic account, not u. jesus, like pulling teeth on hereJamesSeed said:
It's not rose tinted. It's a factual account of what they said. No spin whatsoever.DOUCHER said:
Once again forthright DOUCHER unilaterally marks position - no wind up - info from seller side as opposed to all others apart from NLA, hence why all the usual r getting their knickers in a twist and calling me a WUM - the Aussie originated info is more rose tinted than mine and always has been but if u don't want to know what's really happening, ignore my postsTo_Be_Franck said:What is OAFDUMP
Its been driving me nuts for weeks
you said that its not seen that way from the sellers point of view. Seeing as there is literally no-one on the sellers side who knows anything apart from RD himself, then I'd say you are being fed by him, or by someone very close to him (and if that person is UK based it can only be RM)....so please excuse me if I say that the news you are being fed is being done on purpose to muddy the waters, to cause us angst & to make us doubt the Aussies...
I have stayed well clear of all the willy waving & all the I said/ you said crap.....but you have clearly been wrong on at least 2 occasions - once over DD & again over the lodgment of papers to the EFL and I believe you will ultimately be found out again
3 strikes & your out mr Duchatelet....
Now NLA and Doucher have revealed their sources are from within the current regime it explains why they are so hostile to Airman's and Jimmy's info which is direct from the Aussies. They may not realise it themselves but they seem to be briefing against the Aussie consortium on Roland's behalf. Of course the Aussies are optimistic, that's their negotiating position and any info coming from the current regime will pour cold water on any Aussie claims. We've no idea what the Aussies will really be like but we do know how deluded Roland can be and that he rarely deals in the truth. After saying that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the two positions.0 -
Pointless post, unless your are being antagonistic.DOUCHER said:
Who's the aussies useful idiots, airman, Cawley or more recently jimmy seed? None of whom I think are idiots by the wayStigThundercock said:
That's a very generous view and it does you credit. We know for certain that Duchatelet doesn't give a flying fuck what we Charlton fans think of him. If he has been feeding info it has either been to work out where the leaks are at Floyd Road or to have a useful idiot to raise some smoke, create some white noise amid the relentless cacophony of hate, humiliation and derision aimed squarely at him for the last 40 odd months. Everything sourced from this regime has been shown to be unreliable, at best. Theirs has been an unbroken stream of piss, uniquely described as rain, by the smell of it theirs is a diet exclusively of sugar puffs, corned beef and asparagus.SouthLincsAddick said:
I Agree.golfaddick said:
Actually, I for one, understood what you were trying to say. Maybe the Aussies are trying to put a better spin on things, purely because they know us fans have had to put up with a lot of shit over the past 4 years & deserve some good news for once....and because the the club is saying diddly squat they want at least some news to be put out there.Which leads me to my HOWEVER....DOUCHER said:
the aussies give a more optimistic account, not u. jesus, like pulling teeth on hereJamesSeed said:
It's not rose tinted. It's a factual account of what they said. No spin whatsoever.DOUCHER said:
Once again forthright DOUCHER unilaterally marks position - no wind up - info from seller side as opposed to all others apart from NLA, hence why all the usual r getting their knickers in a twist and calling me a WUM - the Aussie originated info is more rose tinted than mine and always has been but if u don't want to know what's really happening, ignore my postsTo_Be_Franck said:What is OAFDUMP
Its been driving me nuts for weeks
you said that its not seen that way from the sellers point of view. Seeing as there is literally no-one on the sellers side who knows anything apart from RD himself, then I'd say you are being fed by him, or by someone very close to him (and if that person is UK based it can only be RM)....so please excuse me if I say that the news you are being fed is being done on purpose to muddy the waters, to cause us angst & to make us doubt the Aussies...
I have stayed well clear of all the willy waving & all the I said/ you said crap.....but you have clearly been wrong on at least 2 occasions - once over DD & again over the lodgment of papers to the EFL and I believe you will ultimately be found out again
3 strikes & your out mr Duchatelet....
Now NLA and Doucher have revealed their sources are from within the current regime it explains why they are so hostile to Airman's and Jimmy's info which is direct from the Aussies. They may not realise it themselves but they seem to be briefing against the Aussie consortium on Roland's behalf. Of course the Aussies are optimistic, that's their negotiating position and any info coming from the current regime will pour cold water on any Aussie claims. We've no idea what the Aussies will really be like but we do know how deluded Roland can be and that he rarely deals in the truth. After saying that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the two positions.3 -
I doubt the feeling is mutual.DOUCHER said:
Who's the aussies useful idiots, airman, Cawley or more recently jimmy seed? None of whom I think are idiots by the wayStigThundercock said:
That's a very generous view and it does you credit. We know for certain that Duchatelet doesn't give a flying fuck what we Charlton fans think of him. If he has been feeding info it has either been to work out where the leaks are at Floyd Road or to have a useful idiot to raise some smoke, create some white noise amid the relentless cacophony of hate, humiliation and derision aimed squarely at him for the last 40 odd months. Everything sourced from this regime has been shown to be unreliable, at best. Theirs has been an unbroken stream of piss, uniquely described as rain, by the smell of it theirs is a diet exclusively of sugar puffs, corned beef and asparagus.SouthLincsAddick said:
I Agree.golfaddick said:
Actually, I for one, understood what you were trying to say. Maybe the Aussies are trying to put a better spin on things, purely because they know us fans have had to put up with a lot of shit over the past 4 years & deserve some good news for once....and because the the club is saying diddly squat they want at least some news to be put out there.Which leads me to my HOWEVER....DOUCHER said:
the aussies give a more optimistic account, not u. jesus, like pulling teeth on hereJamesSeed said:
It's not rose tinted. It's a factual account of what they said. No spin whatsoever.DOUCHER said:
Once again forthright DOUCHER unilaterally marks position - no wind up - info from seller side as opposed to all others apart from NLA, hence why all the usual r getting their knickers in a twist and calling me a WUM - the Aussie originated info is more rose tinted than mine and always has been but if u don't want to know what's really happening, ignore my postsTo_Be_Franck said:What is OAFDUMP
Its been driving me nuts for weeks
you said that its not seen that way from the sellers point of view. Seeing as there is literally no-one on the sellers side who knows anything apart from RD himself, then I'd say you are being fed by him, or by someone very close to him (and if that person is UK based it can only be RM)....so please excuse me if I say that the news you are being fed is being done on purpose to muddy the waters, to cause us angst & to make us doubt the Aussies...
I have stayed well clear of all the willy waving & all the I said/ you said crap.....but you have clearly been wrong on at least 2 occasions - once over DD & again over the lodgment of papers to the EFL and I believe you will ultimately be found out again
3 strikes & your out mr Duchatelet....
Now NLA and Doucher have revealed their sources are from within the current regime it explains why they are so hostile to Airman's and Jimmy's info which is direct from the Aussies. They may not realise it themselves but they seem to be briefing against the Aussie consortium on Roland's behalf. Of course the Aussies are optimistic, that's their negotiating position and any info coming from the current regime will pour cold water on any Aussie claims. We've no idea what the Aussies will really be like but we do know how deluded Roland can be and that he rarely deals in the truth. After saying that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the two positions.1
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