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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,350

    If a deal is stalling on the new buyer waiting to see what division we'll be in next season, they obviously haven't got any long term plans, or idea about football** in general.

    **the original, English type

    The deal is stalling as another party has come to the table
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    I personally think that if RD was up to anything sinister, all the buyers woulda pulled out. I just think the contracts are there to be signed and a date has been agreed to exchange, but we're not likely to know when is until it is done and made public. I don't think the "delay" is a delay in the eyes of the people who count (RD and the Buyer(s)).

    It could be today, could be next month imo
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,354

    They could just write that into the contract though couldn't they? i.e. if we go up Roland gets X amount more? I'm not much of a businessman though

    JamesSeed said:

    I’m sure others have said this before, but I have a funny feeling nothing will happen until it’s know which division we’ll be playing in next season. That would explain the delays maybe.

    This
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    The only Duchatelet influence now is somebody who doesn't give a jot how the club is run and is waiting for the sale to go through. We have key posts empty but it won't make much difference if the sale goes through today or in a months time. But at some point plans for next season need to be put in place.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2018
    cafcwill said:

    There's tax implications for Roland depending if he's made a profit or loss this tax year too.

    Assuming he's made another loss, that would indicate he wants a pre-end of tax year sale?

    Does that sound right? As we have under 4 business days left of this tax year

    The club’s accounting period is July to June.
  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,286

    cafcwill said:

    There's tax implications for Roland depending if he's made a profit or loss this tax year too.

    Assuming he's made another loss, that would indicate he wants a pre-end of tax year sale?

    Does that sound right? As we have under 4 business days left of this tax year

    The club’s accounting period is July to June.
    Does that mean we have to potentially wait till July for my theory to be true?

    Or if he made a loss it would be for this period but still need to be submitted before end of tax year?

    Or am I going too deep down the rabbit hole?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,839
    cafcwill said:

    cafcwill said:

    There's tax implications for Roland depending if he's made a profit or loss this tax year too.

    Assuming he's made another loss, that would indicate he wants a pre-end of tax year sale?

    Does that sound right? As we have under 4 business days left of this tax year

    The club’s accounting period is July to June.
    Does that mean we have to potentially wait till July for my theory to be true?

    Or if he made a loss it would be for this period but still need to be submitted before end of tax year?

    Or am I going too deep down the rabbit hole?
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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Are businesses that sell for around the £50 million mark usually sold in conjunction with tax years etc.?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,722
    cafcwill said:

    cafcwill said:

    There's tax implications for Roland depending if he's made a profit or loss this tax year too.

    Assuming he's made another loss, that would indicate he wants a pre-end of tax year sale?

    Does that sound right? As we have under 4 business days left of this tax year

    The club’s accounting period is July to June.
    Does that mean we have to potentially wait till July for my theory to be true?

    Or if he made a loss it would be for this period but still need to be submitted before end of tax year?

    Or am I going too deep down the rabbit hole?
    It’s of no relevance.
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,304
    Airman. What was the significant of your comment yesterday 'payday tomorrow'?
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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,007

    I don't wanna piss on no one's cornflakes, but without knowing how true / accurate the Tweets are this morning, would anyone else feel its a bit of an anti-climax if people with "strong links" to a foreign football league were the new owner(s)?

    It wouldn't bother me, really. My only concern is that every morning we wake up with owner with strong links to a rag-bag of ill suited network clubs.

    Cornflakes still dry and crunchy, thanks.
  • So did everyone at The Valley get paid today?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2018

    Airman. What was the significant of your comment yesterday 'payday tomorrow'?

    Another tranche of money for RD to pay out. If you look at the last two takeovers they were on Dec 31st and Jan 2nd, which isn’t entirely a concidence.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,197

    cafcwill said:

    There's tax implications for Roland depending if he's made a profit or loss this tax year too.

    Assuming he's made another loss, that would indicate he wants a pre-end of tax year sale?

    Does that sound right? As we have under 4 business days left of this tax year

    The club’s accounting period is July to June.
    Yes, but the Belgian tax year is the same as the calendar year, so he might not care.
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,304

    Airman. What was the significant of your comment yesterday 'payday tomorrow'?

    Another tranche of money for RD to pay out. If you look at the last two takeovers they were on Dec 31st and Jan 2nd, which isn’t entirely a concidence.
    Thanks Airman. Fingers crossed then for today :smiley:
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,722
    cafcfan said:

    cafcwill said:

    There's tax implications for Roland depending if he's made a profit or loss this tax year too.

    Assuming he's made another loss, that would indicate he wants a pre-end of tax year sale?

    Does that sound right? As we have under 4 business days left of this tax year

    The club’s accounting period is July to June.
    Yes, but the Belgian tax year is the same as the calendar year, so he might not care.
    The point I was making was that the UK tax year is irrelevant since it doesn’t correspond to Charlton’s accounting period.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    At the point of any sale, any moneys to be paid or owed, are then calculated aren't they? So I can't see how any of this will influence a £50 million odd sale. And I would've personally thought that that was all ironed out by now, but then what I know about this sort of thing could be written on the back of a stamp
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    .. hold up, the milkman turns up for his money on a Thursday night, so maybe RD's trying to offload before 19:30 today.......
  • JWADDICK
    JWADDICK Posts: 846

    cafcfan said:

    cafcwill said:

    There's tax implications for Roland depending if he's made a profit or loss this tax year too.

    Assuming he's made another loss, that would indicate he wants a pre-end of tax year sale?

    Does that sound right? As we have under 4 business days left of this tax year

    The club’s accounting period is July to June.
    Yes, but the Belgian tax year is the same as the calendar year, so he might not care.
    The point I was making was that the UK tax year is irrelevant since it doesn’t correspond to Charlton’s accounting period.
    This. Not only is the UK tax year irrelevant in terms of Charlton's accounting period it has nothing whatsoever to do with losses made by a Belgian national who owns any number of Belgian and other overseas companies. The thought that he may be keen to crystallise a gain/loss here in this tax year to offset any other profits/losses is a complete red herring. indeed if that were the case 31 December 2017 would have been the key date as we are the only country still operating on a 300 year old fiscal year which increasingly has no relevance to modern business.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,801
    Ok I’m fucked off with this now. Well tbf I have been fucked off with it for ages.

    If he stupid old fool is moving the goal posts much longer I’m going to be moving a set of posts over to Sint Truiden and wrapping them round his head.

    (Joke Belgian pc audley)
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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,885
    Latest I've heard (as in within the last hour) is the takeover is all on track, just sorting out a few niggling points and best bet is it will be done within a fortnight - that is from one of my cast iron sources
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051

    All I know is that the seats at Sixfields are particularly uncomfortable.

    So, I'm expecting lots of hot, cross, bums...

    Reaches for the missing groan button...
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    DOUCHER said:

    Latest I've heard (as in within the last hour) is the takeover is all on track, just sorting out a few niggling points and best bet is it will be done within a fortnight - that is from one of my cast iron sources

    Fingers crossed, although no-one's cast iron sources seem to be coming out with any credit.
  • DOUCHER said:

    Latest I've heard (as in within the last hour) is the takeover is all on track, just sorting out a few niggling points and best bet is it will be done within a fortnight - that is from one of my cast iron sources

    Aussies?
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,090
    The fact is, nobody knows, apart from those at the coal face.
    If true, the Rumour that another bidder is going through DD will naturally delay it, RD could be moving goal posts, so could any potential buyer wanting more bang for their buck/Aussie dollar.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,885

    DOUCHER said:

    Latest I've heard (as in within the last hour) is the takeover is all on track, just sorting out a few niggling points and best bet is it will be done within a fortnight - that is from one of my cast iron sources

    Aussies?
    I don't know - aussies or brits I presume - I don't know for sure but I'm taking the Arabic panther with a pinch of salt
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    DOUCHER said:

    Latest I've heard (as in within the last hour) is the takeover is all on track, just sorting out a few niggling points and best bet is it will be done within a fortnight - that is from one of my cast iron sources

    That'll be the milk bill
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Are we still confident any sale includes The Valley and Sparrows Lane?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    Are we still confident any sale includes The Valley and Sparrows Lane?

    Depends what red bull want
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    This sale isn't for 50m upfront! RD is taking a big fat loss, so the date of closing is irrelevant for tax reasons!
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