The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Keep on trucking @Airman Brown @Redhenry and anyone else who has any snippets of info, I don’t mind, I have contracts out on you all.12
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It’s taught me and my family a very hard lesson.
Off the back of “that” tweet, at our expense, we flew all of our family in (South Africa, USA, Slade Green etc) for a themed ‘Roland’s gone’ party, I went as Katrien.
Anyway, half way through the party (Paul Van Dyk was DJing), we got wind that there was some backtracking going on, whereupon the whole family, apart from Auntie Sue who was at the vol au vent table, left to go home.
I did feel a bit silly and am waiting for the repercussions from my family when they finally get home.16 -
Second this.ShootersHillGuru said:If Rick has heard something I hope he continues to tweet, post or publish it. I don’t think any of us doubt his ability to have credible sources. If he’s been told something and chooses not to tell us we’re all worse off. Keep it comping please.
Same goes for Redhenry or anyone else for that matter.
There's an old saying in journalism, "trust but verify." And I think that that stands here. Trust that peoples' sources are correct, but wait for them to be verified (either by others or on the official site). And just because AB or Henry say something that later turns out not to be the case doesn't mean it was false, or wildly false, at the time. These things can change, and the information different people involved in the process have can change as well.
The bottom line is there are two seriously interested parties, it seems a price is at least close to being agreed, and I firmly believe Roland will be gone by summer.13 -
I’ve got no axe to grind, but when you’re in a position that Rick is, where people hang off his every word regarding takeover talk, I think it would be better to not tweet something as cut and dry as ‘done deal’, when allegedly, it’s not a done deal.sammy391 said:It’s mainly only the ones who already have an axe to grind with rick, who have problems with his tweets/scoops as it means they can be used against him!
Regardless of common sense , they don’t seem to understand that it’s first and foremost a rumour but also out for ‘translation’8 -
I am happy to keep hearing the gossip.........when the long overdue day dawns I bet it turns out to be less exciting than this epic thread.1
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People should perhaps think back to October when “a director” told Robinson - and he told the world - nothing was happening. It wasn’t true as should now be clear to anyone who has been paying attention.
The bigger picture is that Duchatelet has been trying to sell the club for at least ten months and the narrative I and a few others have set out over that period has been broadly accurate, despite being denied by the club, various posters here and elsewhere. That narrative was drawn from the same sources (and others) as the “done deal” tweet.
The fact it was mostly not reported elsewhere, even in Charlton focused media, was used to debunk it. That was wrong too as became clear when Duchatelet was forced into the open - at the last possible juncture - by Meire’s resignation. It’s based on a misunderstanding of how the media works and who they are - and most importantly who they know.
It would be amazing if I or anyone else had got everything right - Aussie related sources have now declared themselves about to win the race four times to my knowledge - but they are not the only sources this time or at other times. And we are at the end of the road, thankfully.
If a previously reliable and very well placed source tells me it’s done, I will share that because that’s how the narrative took shape in the first place - from me trusting my sources. It’s not definitive and if people prefer to believe other things that’s their choice, but the idea the official site is the source of definitive truth is for the birds - experience with the spivs and their “method actor” Michael Slater ought to have demonstrated that.95 -
Thanks Rick, most of us appreciate your news.20
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charltonbob said:
If that's the case can't they just give the Belgian what he wants & blow the others away.Redhenry said:
Closer to Man CNicholas said:
When you say wealthy do you mean Man city Billionaire wealthy where money doesnt matter.Redhenry said:
Yes he is foreign and very very wealthy.carly burn said:
Do you genuinely know who these people are RH?Redhenry said:One of the parties was at the club today. This has got at least another week to run.
Or is he a wealthy poor millionaire who needs to watch the pennies still
Oh & once the deal is signed give the Belgian 20 Eurostar season tickets to go & annoy the fucker every week.
Brilliant !!!
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Well said Airman let the haters hate i believe you1
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Rick put aside the right or wrong information we all know that things are not done until it’s done and announced officially
If you were the new owners would you want a bloke who used to work at the club and runs a successful fanzine steal your thunder a bit or would respectfully hope that may be that person would wait and let you have your moment in the sun1 -
Thanks Rick, as always appreciated4
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Ditto, thanks Rick.HantsAddick said:Thanks Rick, most of us appreciate your news.
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I think regardless of whether the information leaks out and it’s astonishing if it doesn’t. Whoever takes over will get their “moment in the sun”. Of that I have no doubt.nth london addick said:Rick put aside the right or wrong information we all know that things are not done until it’s done and announced officially
If you were the new owners would you want a bloke who used to work at the club and runs a successful fanzine steal your thunder a bit or would respectfully hope that may be that person would wait and let you have your moment in the sun
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In an age of social media I don’t think any sensible new owner would expect no leaks. There always will be as it nears the end due to the number of people who will know. RE saying done deal is not really thunder stealing when our own Chairman has publicly stated it will likely be concluded this month.nth london addick said:Rick put aside the right or wrong information we all know that things are not done until it’s done and announced officially
If you were the new owners would you want a bloke who used to work at the club and runs a successful fanzine steal your thunder a bit or would respectfully hope that may be that person would wait and let you have your moment in the sun9 -
Agreed.ShootersHillGuru said:
I think regardless of whether the information leaks out and it’s astonishing if it doesn’t. Whoever takes over will get their “moment in the sun”. Of that I have no doubt.nth london addick said:Rick put aside the right or wrong information we all know that things are not done until it’s done and announced officially
If you were the new owners would you want a bloke who used to work at the club and runs a successful fanzine steal your thunder a bit or would respectfully hope that may be that person would wait and let you have your moment in the sun
Every Charlton fan will have their undivided attention.2 -
Airman Brown said:
People should perhaps think back to October when “a director” told Robinson - and he told the world - nothing was happening. It wasn’t true as should now be clear to anyone who has been paying attention.
The bigger picture is that Duchatelet has been trying to sell the club for at least ten months and the narrative I and a few others have set out over that period has been broadly accurate, despite being denied by the club, various posters here and elsewhere. That narrative was drawn from the same sources (and others) as the “done deal” tweet.
The fact it was mostly not reported elsewhere, even in Charlton focused media, was used to debunk it. That was wrong too as became clear when Duchatelet was forced into the open - at the last possible juncture - by Meire’s resignation. It’s based on a misunderstanding of how the media works and who they are - and most importantly who they know.
It would be amazing if I or anyone else had got everything right - Aussie related sources have now declared themselves about to win the race four times to my knowledge - but they are not the only sources this time or at other times. And we are at the end of the road, thankfully.
If a previously reliable and very well placed source tells me it’s done, I will share that because that’s how the narrative took shape in the first place - from me trusting my sources. It’s not definitive and if people prefer to believe other things that’s their choice, but the idea the official site is the source of definitive truth is for the birds - experience with the spivs and their “method actor” Michael Slater ought to have demonstrated that.
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I think it would be more of a selling point for Rick to hold back and build a relationship with the new owners who will already know that the votv holds favour with sections of the fan base the new owner may offer more courtesy in communication with some one who shows restraint
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Thanks @Airman Brown always appreciate the updates.4
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I honestly think it’s a strange idea that it makes any difference to them. Almost any new owner will be warmly welcomed - they will have years to make their mark and much more to think about than me. It’s the fact of the deal, not the announcement of it, which matters to people.nth london addick said:Rick put aside the right or wrong information we all know that things are not done until it’s done and announced officially
If you were the new owners would you want a bloke who used to work at the club and runs a successful fanzine steal your thunder a bit or would respectfully hope that may be that person would wait and let you have your moment in the sun
In any case, I don’t leak the information. As Richard Cawley has tweeted, he was told the same thing. This stuff comes out, whether it’s via me, you or the Daily Mail. It’s naive to think it won’t.
Would we have been better off knowing nothing of RD’s intention to sell the club until December 28th when he was forced to disclose it to explain Meire’s departure? I think that would have driven more people to despair over the last few years.37 - Sponsored links:
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Its clear from what we have been told, something is happening.
Lets all chill out guys. The unifying thing here is we all want the best for our club.
Lets wait and see who they are......the enemy here is Duchatelet, not Rick, not Redhenry or any other itk individual
I can see that some peoples expectations have been a little let down by Imminent and done deal, etc, but anyone who has ever bought a business or been involved in a business take over knows that its not done until you sign on the dotted line and hand over the filthy lucre.
No need for witchhunts or finger pointing, we all just want the best for CAFC
Time for us to unify.19 -
Shock rumour "Aussie based Charlton fan hints at name change to Charlton United,"TEL said:Its clear from what we have been told, something is happening.
Lets all chill out guys. The unifying thing here is we all want the best for our club.
Lets wait and see who they are......the enemy here is Duchatelet, not Rick, not Redhenry or any other itk individual
I can see that some peoples expectations have been a little let down by Imminent and done deal, etc, but anyone who has ever bought a business or been involved in a business take over knows that its not done until you sign on the dotted line and hand over the filthy lucre.
No need for witchhunts or finger pointing, we all just want the best for CAFC
Time for us to unify.
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Just praying that @Redhenry 's people can wipe that smile from Simon Jordon's face ! Orange twunt!!!2
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Can the bitesize Takeover thread be just that please ?2
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It’s a football club and this is a football forum where thousands of us get our Charlton fix moment by moment, day by day or whatever. We are as far as business goes brand loyal to the point of stupidity. Anyone that knows football at all will be aware that generating interest whether that be providing a forum platform or by producing a fanzine for thirty odd years that those people are goldust in any relationship an owner wants with his clubs fans.nth london addick said:I think it would be more of a selling point for Rick to hold back and build a relationship with the new owners who will already know that the votv holds favour with sections of the fan base the new owner may offer more courtesy in communication with some one who shows restraint
I agree nla that the new owner will want his place in the sun but the excitement building to that moment is very much enhanced by this and other forums and certainly with the publication of a respected fanzine.
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Agree,. Start that thread to keep things "clean" and then becomes private joke thread.Shrew said:Can the bitesize Takeover thread be just that please ?
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yep not impressed with that0
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Bloody Admin clique.northstandsteve said:yep not impressed with that
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I honestly don’t think you would give two shi*s - they’ll still get there official welcoming, their sky sports interview - having someone confirm it online before they do is par for the course, happens at every club when in the position. You don’t just wake up one morning and find your club has been taken over out the blue, sources talk about it before hand.nth london addick said:Rick put aside the right or wrong information we all know that things are not done until it’s done and announced officially
If you were the new owners would you want a bloke who used to work at the club and runs a successful fanzine steal your thunder a bit or would respectfully hope that may be that person would wait and let you have your moment in the sun7 -
The type of semi-official relationship you are describing between the owner and whomsoever can claim to represent the fan base would more likely to be filled by CAST (Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust). This body has a democratically elected board and a large membership. Although it was a member of the Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) it was nevertheless the body that Murray looked to when he had made the recent overtures to the fan base in the face of the West Stand 'protest'.nth london addick said:I think it would be more of a selling point for Rick to hold back and build a relationship with the new owners who will already know that the votv holds favour with sections of the fan base the new owner may offer more courtesy in communication with some one who shows restraint
Surely, this role (owner/fan communication) is one best channeled through CAST.
Rick on the other hand can remain independent and continue to comment on all aspects of the Club through the vehicle of VOTV and/or other media outlets although I hesitate to put words in his mouth.
VOTV also allows of course a whole range of opinion and comment some of it not necessarily in tune with Rick.
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