Looking at that picture of the goal it's definitely in. There's a later comment basically saying that it wasn't behind the line when the keeper 'saved' it but to to me that just suggests it was an own goal by the keeper in that case.
I noticed that on the Valley Pass highlights - Pearce certainly leans over him and I can see where the spitting accusation has come from. He was probably just giving Sinclair a beard a wash.
Having watched the highlights on Valley Pass, the red looked a lot worse from the east stand (similar to the refs viewpoint) and possibly the covered than from where I was and I'd be amazed if even half the ball crossed the line for the goal.
Will maybe make up for Bauer's perfectly good goal against Millwall last season that was disallowed by a crap ref?
Having watched the highlights on Valley Pass, the red looked a lot worse from the east stand (similar to the refs viewpoint) and possibly the covered than from where I was and I'd be amazed if even half the ball crossed the line for the goal.
Will maybe make up for Bauer's perfectly good goal against Millwall last season that was disallowed by a crap ref?
No, not in any way does a goal v Bristol Rovers make up for a goal v Millwall : - ()
That was utterly disgraceful. I have watched Charlton since 1966, and today ranks down there with the most spineless, weak, dim-witted, stupid performances of them all.
Firstly, it's completely wrong to play only one striker, especially at home. It's an admission of defensive defeat, even before the kick-off. Two good strikers will worry the opposing defenders – spark panic and havoc – and take the pressure off our congenitally weak midfield.
Novak is not a good striker; that was patently obvious on his debut at Welling this time last year. Neither quick nor physical; a lump. When he was sent off after 10 minutes today, here came the most idiotic managerial indecision in Charlton history.
As a manager, you would take off a midfielder and throw on a striker. Robinson played 80 minutes with the formation of 4-6-0. No-one at all up front. Nothing.
This is the man who signed Simon Church and Danny Green when they had palpably flopped. The man who relegated his team, below us.
This marvellous six-man midfield! With the exception of Holmes they are utterly vacuous. Our keeper – dodgy anyway, third choice at Bolton and failed on loan at Cardiff – hoofs a high ball, and during the trajectory we in the Covered End know our men will not win it.
None of our midfielders jump. Ball plops in absent space, Bristol Rovers set about another attack, getting round our flaky defence, swinging crosses in to the box.
Did we have a single shot on goal in the entire second half? No. A limp Holmes free-kick over the wall, easily saved.
From Cray Wanderers to Man City, football is about guts and fire: getting the ball in to the box with strength and precision. We are miles away. If we continue to play without a striker we'll get ripped apart from here to kingdom come.
Just seen this.
Give up mate, either on these posts or on Charlton in general, because it seems your brain has given up already.
So much to enjoy. I haven't seen us play for nearly two years and after the huge queue for tickets, that was a great afternoon. Novak made a silly challenge and red was always a possibility, and I thought the ovation he got was undeserved. This was followed by the best period for the Gasmen, and they could have gone ahead, but we clawed our way into it, with some hard work and neat passing, and took a well earned lead Kashi was immense, loved Holmes and Fosu, but there wasn't a duff performance for me. I watched Watt and got the impression he was under instructions from KR, and followed them to the letter. He DID look knackered, but while his style may irritate, he made the one poor pass after being drafted into a tough situation. Let it go. Finally, I enjoyed KR exorting the fans to make some noise. Tension imposed a bit of quiet, but that was a good atmousphere. And I walked out very happy with our new squad. Early days but there is every reason today to be optimistic.
sitive and exciting. If we are going to get a season of this stuff we are going to enjoy ourselves. It is possible to take those generalisations from a game of particulars.
You could argue against the officials, not me personally, the goal was controversial at the time, and Bristol Rovers have a lot to do to sort their team and play out, but there were wonders to behold in moments and incidents everywhere.
Da Silva outjumped Bodin twice in the space of a minute first half, outjumped the bloke, Solly was so good you could take it for granted, yet here he was repeating that two way twist we saw against Ipswich, never failing in a one on one, bursting into the area where you could almost hear his thoughts zinging out of his head in the sheer magnificence of his work.
No player it seemed to me was lest than good, most very good, and several excellent. The keeper kept a clean sheet, early to judge him but he was there when needed. I have mentioned da Silva and Solly, Pearce was absolutely what was needed in the circumstances, and Bauer, goal notwithstanding was outstanding for every minute of the game.
I have been gushing so far so what is there left for both Kashi and JFC? You could argue that they were the game managers, who along with Clarke who adapted the most quickly to the sending off and sorted the team out. No hiding from JFC or Clarke, and I counted just the one poor ball from Clarke in the whole game. Seriously guys tho, am I smitten by man love, or was Kashi plain and simple brilliant? if you see another player better than Kashi in this league this season then Fleetwood would have signed Messi.
Then we have Holmes and Fosu. Bristol Rovers simply found both unplayable, and where the midfield sorted the coping mechanisms after the set back, it was Holmes and Fosu who turned damage limitation into a win. People might have thought after 25 minutes or so 'would you take a point now?' but not Holmes or Fosu, and by osmosis the rest of the team. No way was a single point good enough for them or for Charlton today, it was almost a rollercoaster three juicy points or die trying.
One swallow and all that, but Robinson and the coaching team have indicated that they have the wherewithall, they now need the backing...especially from the board, because the fans were excellent this afternoon.
One swallow doesn't make a summer, but whatever it means, it felt to me like we have our Charlton back.
So much to enjoy. I have't seen us play for neatly two years and after yhe huge queue for tickets, that was a great afternoon. Novsk made a silly challenge and red was always a possibility, and I thought the ovation he got was indeserved. This wad followed by the best period for the Gasmen, and they could have gone ahead, but we clawed our way into it, with some hard work and neat passing, and took a well earned lead Kashi was immense, loved Holmes and Fosu, but there wasn't a duff performance for me. I watched Watt and got the impression he was under instructions from KR, and followed them to the letter. He DID look knackered, but while his style may irritate, he made the one poor pass after being drafted into a tough situation. Let it go. Finally, I enjoyed KR exorting the fans to make some noise. Tension imposed a bit of quiet, but that was a good atmousphere. And I walked out very happy with our new squad. Early days but there is every reason today to be optimistic.
That was utterly disgraceful. I have watched Charlton since 1966, and today ranks down there with the most spineless, weak, dim-witted, stupid performances of them all.
Firstly, it's completely wrong to play only one striker, especially at home. It's an admission of defensive defeat, even before the kick-off. Two good strikers will worry the opposing defenders – spark panic and havoc – and take the pressure off our congenitally weak midfield.
Novak is not a good striker; that was patently obvious on his debut at Welling this time last year. Neither quick nor physical; a lump. When he was sent off after 10 minutes today, here came the most idiotic managerial indecision in Charlton history.
As a manager, you would take off a midfielder and throw on a striker. Robinson played 80 minutes with the formation of 4-6-0. No-one at all up front. Nothing.
This is the man who signed Simon Church and Danny Green when they had palpably flopped. The man who relegated his team, below us.
This marvellous six-man midfield! With the exception of Holmes they are utterly vacuous. Our keeper – dodgy anyway, third choice at Bolton and failed on loan at Cardiff – hoofs a high ball, and during the trajectory we in the Covered End know our men will not win it.
None of our midfielders jump. Ball plops in absent space, Bristol Rovers set about another attack, getting round our flaky defence, swinging crosses in to the box.
Did we have a single shot on goal in the entire second half? No. A limp Holmes free-kick over the wall, easily saved.
From Cray Wanderers to Man City, football is about guts and fire: getting the ball in to the box with strength and precision. We are miles away. If we continue to play without a striker we'll get ripped apart from here to kingdom come.
Just seen this.
Give up mate, either on these posts or on Charlton in general, because it seems your brain has given up already.
Came straight from the Morning session at the Olympic stadium.
"After the Lord Mo Show" ? No way.
Novak's tackling masterclass from Lee Bowyer didn't go too well. Charlton players were so impressive, as they played 90 minutes with 10 men by the time the large lady started to sing.
For large parts of the game we played simple passes into feet on the ground. Kashi will help make JFC a more consistent player, Clarke put in a shift and Fosu has great balance and a football brain. The C/B's were Superb and i agree with the majority that the jury is out on Amos.
Even when Solly was winning POTY he had iffy starts to matches, and like yesterday got better as the game progressed. Dasilva could turn to gold if he can defend as well as he attacks.
Ricky Holmes, put in a Ricky Holmes Performance.
I gave Watt the moniker of "magic feet" a couple of years ago. should it be changed to "two left feet"
Josh did well last season but we need a 20-24 goal striker in this division. Without that player we could be looking at 7th at the very best.
I travelled with the game being an incidental part of the day as I met up for a reunion with old rugby club friends and team mates one of whom is a Bristol Rovers season holder.
Playing 88 minutes (realtime) with 10 men and managing to still win the match suggests a spirit and character within the squad which is a potentially encouraging omen for our prospects for the rest of the season.
My view of Novak's offending tackle was obscured but my mate thought it was studs up so, if correct, red could be justified although many refs would probably have deemed yellow sufficient.
At that moment I would have taken a draw but our lads stuck to their task with so much more determination than I envisaged. Very impressed with 14 Fosu. He must have drawn half a dozen free kicks with his trickery. Unfair to single out individuals though really because that was very much a team effort epitomised by Solly finding himself with a nosebleed in the penalty area as we looked for a second.
My Bristol Rovers mate praised the way we kept it tight but felt that his team are in for a long season.
Still 3 points (especially with 10 men) are 3 points so let's hope we push on!
So much to enjoy. I have't seen us play for neatly two years and after yhe huge queue for tickets, that was a great afternoon. Novsk made a silly challenge and red was always a possibility, and I thought the ovation he got was indeserved. This wad followed by the best period for the Gasmen, and they could have gone ahead, but we clawed our way into it, with some hard work and neat passing, and took a well earned lead Kashi was immense, loved Holmes and Fosu, but there wasn't a duff performance for me. I watched Watt and got the impression he was under instructions from KR, and followed them to the letter. He DID look knackered, but while his style may irritate, he made the one poor pass after being drafted into a tough situation. Let it go. Finally, I enjoyed KR exorting the fans to make some noise. Tension imposed a bit of quiet, but that was a good atmousphere. And I walked out very happy with our new squad. Early days but there is every reason today to be optimistic.
Why was there such a long queue for tickets?
There were long queues long before the start of the game and there were also staff walking alongside these selling tickets for cash sales to try and reduce them. Guess that most decided to rock up on the day instead of buying on line.
That was utterly disgraceful. I have watched Charlton since 1966, and today ranks down there with the most spineless, weak, dim-witted, stupid performances of them all.
Firstly, it's completely wrong to play only one striker, especially at home. It's an admission of defensive defeat, even before the kick-off. Two good strikers will worry the opposing defenders – spark panic and havoc – and take the pressure off our congenitally weak midfield.
Novak is not a good striker; that was patently obvious on his debut at Welling this time last year. Neither quick nor physical; a lump. When he was sent off after 10 minutes today, here came the most idiotic managerial indecision in Charlton history.
As a manager, you would take off a midfielder and throw on a striker. Robinson played 80 minutes with the formation of 4-6-0. No-one at all up front. Nothing.
This is the man who signed Simon Church and Danny Green when they had palpably flopped. The man who relegated his team, below us.
This marvellous six-man midfield! With the exception of Holmes they are utterly vacuous. Our keeper – dodgy anyway, third choice at Bolton and failed on loan at Cardiff – hoofs a high ball, and during the trajectory we in the Covered End know our men will not win it.
None of our midfielders jump. Ball plops in absent space, Bristol Rovers set about another attack, getting round our flaky defence, swinging crosses in to the box.
Did we have a single shot on goal in the entire second half? No. A limp Holmes free-kick over the wall, easily saved.
From Cray Wanderers to Man City, football is about guts and fire: getting the ball in to the box with strength and precision. We are miles away. If we continue to play without a striker we'll get ripped apart from here to kingdom come.
Just seen this.
Give up mate, either on these posts or on Charlton in general, because it seems your brain has given up already.
Never have I read so much tosh in one post
Sam, i think it was a bit tongue-in-cheek mate.
Having read through previous "efforts" by Viewfinder, I don't think it is
That was utterly disgraceful. I have watched Charlton since 1966, and today ranks down there with the most spineless, weak, dim-witted, stupid performances of them all.
Firstly, it's completely wrong to play only one striker, especially at home. It's an admission of defensive defeat, even before the kick-off. Two good strikers will worry the opposing defenders – spark panic and havoc – and take the pressure off our congenitally weak midfield.
Novak is not a good striker; that was patently obvious on his debut at Welling this time last year. Neither quick nor physical; a lump. When he was sent off after 10 minutes today, here came the most idiotic managerial indecision in Charlton history.
As a manager, you would take off a midfielder and throw on a striker. Robinson played 80 minutes with the formation of 4-6-0. No-one at all up front. Nothing.
This is the man who signed Simon Church and Danny Green when they had palpably flopped. The man who relegated his team, below us.
This marvellous six-man midfield! With the exception of Holmes they are utterly vacuous. Our keeper – dodgy anyway, third choice at Bolton and failed on loan at Cardiff – hoofs a high ball, and during the trajectory we in the Covered End know our men will not win it.
None of our midfielders jump. Ball plops in absent space, Bristol Rovers set about another attack, getting round our flaky defence, swinging crosses in to the box.
Did we have a single shot on goal in the entire second half? No. A limp Holmes free-kick over the wall, easily saved.
From Cray Wanderers to Man City, football is about guts and fire: getting the ball in to the box with strength and precision. We are miles away. If we continue to play without a striker we'll get ripped apart from here to kingdom come.
Just seen this.
Give up mate, either on these posts or on Charlton in general, because it seems your brain has given up already.
Never have I read so much tosh in one post
Sam, i think it was a bit tongue-in-cheek mate.
Having read through previous "efforts" by Viewfinder, I don't think it is
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Also, whats happened to Byrne? is he injured?
Holmes or JFC will be on the Pens I should imagine.
Find that hard to believe though
Give up mate, either on these posts or on Charlton in general, because it seems your brain has given up already.
Never have I read so much tosh in one post
Kashi was immense, loved Holmes and Fosu, but there wasn't a duff performance for me. I watched Watt and got the impression he was under instructions from KR, and followed them to the letter. He DID look knackered, but while his style may irritate, he made the one poor pass after being drafted into a tough situation. Let it go.
Finally, I enjoyed KR exorting the fans to make some noise. Tension imposed a bit of quiet, but that was a good atmousphere. And I walked out very happy with our new squad. Early days but there is every reason today to be optimistic.
Fosu was great, Kashi really surprised me - thought it would be months before he was at that level.
Amos is a concern and I worry that he'll cost us points this season if he remains as our No. 1.
Looking forward to Plymouth next Saturday which I think will be a tougher test than a really ordinary Bristol Rovers team. Let's not be silly.
"After the Lord Mo Show" ? No way.
Novak's tackling masterclass from Lee Bowyer didn't go too well.
Charlton players were so impressive, as they played 90 minutes with 10 men by the time the large lady started to sing.
For large parts of the game we played simple passes into feet on the ground. Kashi will help make JFC a more consistent player, Clarke put in a shift and Fosu has great balance and a football brain. The C/B's were Superb and i agree with the majority that the jury is out on Amos.
Even when Solly was winning POTY he had iffy starts to matches, and like yesterday got better as the game progressed. Dasilva could turn to gold if he can defend as well as he attacks.
Ricky Holmes, put in a Ricky Holmes Performance.
I gave Watt the moniker of "magic feet" a couple of years ago.
should it be changed to "two left feet"
Josh did well last season but we need a 20-24 goal striker in this division.
Without that player we could be looking at 7th at the very best.
I travelled with the game being an incidental part of the day as I met up for a reunion with old rugby club friends and team mates one of whom is a Bristol Rovers season holder.
Playing 88 minutes (realtime) with 10 men and managing to still win the match suggests a spirit and character within the squad which is a potentially encouraging omen for our prospects for the rest of the season.
My view of Novak's offending tackle was obscured but my mate thought it was studs up so, if correct, red could be justified although many refs would probably have deemed yellow sufficient.
At that moment I would have taken a draw but our lads stuck to their task with so much more determination than I envisaged. Very impressed with 14 Fosu. He must have drawn half a dozen free kicks with his trickery. Unfair to single out individuals though really because that was very much a team effort epitomised by Solly finding himself with a nosebleed in the penalty area as we looked for a second.
My Bristol Rovers mate praised the way we kept it tight but felt that his team are in for a long season.
Still 3 points (especially with 10 men) are 3 points so let's hope we push on!
COYR