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Oldham v Charlton - Post match views - Feb 2017

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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,206
    Leuth said:

    Apologist here

    Reading the match thread it looked like we battered them, missed loads of good chances, keeper had a stormer, stonewall penalty denied. We've clearly played much worse this season and drawn 1-1.

    A fully firing Magennis and we win that one without much difficulty imo - we've just been very unlucky and Robinson hasn't had the chance to build the squad he wants. It's important he's given the summer to do so.

    Short-termist 'THE CLUB IS DEAD', 'KR IS TOAST' bulls**t is not helping anyone. The club is being ineptly run, sure, but given our squad, resources etc I think we've hit our floor. The only way really is up.

    I wouldn't be so sure about that last part, but in general I agree.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,645
    This window we had a real chance of pushing on. Duchatelet left the squad short yet again. It will be the same next window.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,751
    You have to identify what you have to fix then do it. I'm not sure the people running the club think like that bizarely. I have not seen any evidence of it in any window. Yes, we have made good signings amongst all the dross, but it al seems to be done without a clear plan.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,382
    @Major All going to plan is it?

    Lookman might well have made the difference today.
    Even accepting the sale, if Roland had re-invested in a proper striker we might have made something of our chances over the last few games.
    I don't particularly blame KR. Sack him and replace him with someone else, and it'll make no difference.

    It's not good enough really is it.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,788
    Couldn't be bothered to read the earlier posts but let me guess......we were unlucky; should have won; we'll win the next ten games and make the play-offs; if we don't make the play-offs then Roland will let Robbo bring in his own players in the Summer and then the division is definitely ours for the taking next season; why are people being so negative?
    I wonder....
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,079
    First time in years I'd totally forgotten we were playing.

    So we lost, not really a surprise. We're the very definition of mediocre, too many draws, little in the way of flair going forward and have looked ropey at the back since Pearce was injured.

    Fair play to those going to away games. Personally wouldn't waste money on watching us currently especially on a long away trip.

    We now have 3 months of nothingness as we head to a mid table finish. Last time we at least had Powell and new owners in charge, with Roland it's just really depressing.
  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,265
    Leuth said:

    Apologist here

    Reading the match thread it looked like we battered them, missed loads of good chances, keeper had a stormer, stonewall penalty denied. We've clearly played much worse this season and drawn 1-1.

    A fully firing Magennis and we win that one without much difficulty imo - we've just been very unlucky and Robinson hasn't had the chance to build the squad he wants. It's important he's given the summer to do so.

    Short-termist 'THE CLUB IS DEAD', 'KR IS TOAST' bulls**t is not helping anyone. The club is being ineptly run, sure, but given our squad, resources etc I think we've hit our floor. The only way really is up.

    FFS, Robinson hasn't had the chance to build the squad, he won't in the summer and nor will anyone else.
    A couple of signings here and there prior to season ticket deadlines and the rest of the Lookman money 'invested' elsewhere.

    Unless the madman sells, all we will see in the summer is a further decline in season ticket sales and an ever growing disillusionment amongst people like me, as the club they knew and loved drifts ever further away.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,704
    Just got back.

    The only time we really got going was in the last 10 minutes when Oldham were really sitting back and Holmes and Watt had come on. Watt surely can play more than 10 minutes and he looked very dangerous when he was on.

    Konsa and Chicksen looked very poor in the first half and made a lot of mistakes. I could sort of see what we were trying to do by passing it out from the back so often but there just wasn't a creative player in the middle who could find space and do something with the ball.

    Oldham didn't look like a good team but we didn't either.

    Thats it now, play offs should no longer be mentioned at all. Another year in league one to get excited about.

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  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    edited February 2017
    Leuth said:

    Apologist here

    Reading the match thread it looked like we battered them, missed loads of good chances, keeper had a stormer, stonewall penalty denied. We've clearly played much worse this season and drawn 1-1.

    A fully firing Magennis and we win that one without much difficulty imo - we've just been very unlucky and Robinson hasn't had the chance to build the squad he wants. It's important he's given the summer to do so.

    Short-termist 'THE CLUB IS DEAD', 'KR IS TOAST' bulls**t is not helping anyone. The club is being ineptly run, sure, but given our squad, resources etc I think we've hit our floor. The only way really is up.

    Hang on, we've just had a transfer window where Robinson stated he could have brought in more players, but he didn't. Whether Karl was being honest or not, it doesn't matter, either Duchatelet didn't back him financially, or Robinson failed to bring in sufficient quality players to get us into the play offs. Let's remember it was Robinson himself who stated that anything other than the play offs is failure.

    So let's say that Robinson WAS at fault and he didn't bring in enough quality, then why should we back him to do things properly at the end of the season? If Duchatelet was at fault, then it's just business as usual when it comes to signing players, so why should we yet again believe it will be any different next time?
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Leeds_Addick said:



    Thats it now, play offs should no longer be mentioned at all. Another year in league one to get excited about.

    With the Belgian Irishman in charge.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    twiggyaddick said:

    se9addick said:

    twiggyaddick said:

    We played tonight???? Thanks to roland I couldnt give much of a toss

    We always see comments like this shortly after the final whistle of every match we lose (or draw).

    Odd.
    I literally jumped onto my phone and saw post match thread, want to jump on my back to while you are at it??
    Say whaaat?
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,288
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Interestingly I think the worm has turned on the other forum.

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,645
    edited February 2017
    WestCountryAddick said:

    Leuth said:

    Apologist here

    Reading the match thread it looked like we battered them, missed loads of good chances, keeper had a stormer, stonewall penalty denied. We've clearly played much worse this season and drawn 1-1.

    A fully firing Magennis and we win that one without much difficulty imo - we've just been very unlucky and Robinson hasn't had the chance to build the squad he wants. It's important he's given the summer to do so.

    Short-termist 'THE CLUB IS DEAD', 'KR IS TOAST' bulls**t is not helping anyone. The club is being ineptly run, sure, but given our squad, resources etc I think we've hit our floor. The only way really is up.

    Hang on, we've just had a transfer window where Robinson stated he could have brought in more players, but he didn't. Whether Karl was being honest or not, it doesn't matter, either Duchatelet didn't back him financially, or Robinson failed to bring in sufficient quality players to get us into the play offs. Let's remember it was Robinson himself who stated that anything other than the play offs is failure.

    So let's say that Robinson WAS at fault and he didn't bring in enough quality, then why should we back him to do things properly at the end of the season? If Duchatelet was at fault, then it's just business as usual when it comes to signing players, so why should we yet again believe it will be any different next time?
    Look. We are a complete basket case club complete with a silk lining and pig skin straps. The last thing we need is to start calling for a managers head after a handful of games. I'm embarrassed enough being a Charlton supporter already.

  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,258
    The31YearMan said:

    We need to embrace this defeat. I've jeopardised my marriage to come up here on Valentines Day. However, it's enabled me to treat Cabbles to an all expenses paid trip to Oldham as a late birthday gift.
    I was looking forward to treating him to a relaxing couple of pints before the match but alas not for the first time this season, we turned up with minutes to spare.
    The real positive for us tonight was experiencing a new perspective by sitting in a different part of the ground. That's three different perspectives I have encountered at Oldham. Something to tell the grand-children.
    As the final whistle blew, I implored Cabbles to give up any hope of finding the love of a woman and instead immerse himself in 50 years of obscurity and misery.
    Roll on Rochdale...

    After setting up my uncle with an account on here in September last year he chooses tonight to make his first post. We did indeed debate whether or not the last time I game to Oldham in 2010 we sat in what was now the home end, and indeed a different perspective/viewpoint. That's how nothing the game was.

    I hope this is the first post of many after realising he needed to check his junk folder to verify his account.

    He's now dived straight back into his book, The Railway. Nation, network, people by Simon Bradley. That plus a Valentine's trip to Oldham is certainly worth jeopardising his marriage for
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    Who's gonna start the Rochdale Roll Call thread?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,206
    edited February 2017
    cabbles said:

    The31YearMan said:

    We need to embrace this defeat. I've jeopardised my marriage to come up here on Valentines Day. However, it's enabled me to treat Cabbles to an all expenses paid trip to Oldham as a late birthday gift.
    I was looking forward to treating him to a relaxing couple of pints before the match but alas not for the first time this season, we turned up with minutes to spare.
    The real positive for us tonight was experiencing a new perspective by sitting in a different part of the ground. That's three different perspectives I have encountered at Oldham. Something to tell the grand-children.
    As the final whistle blew, I implored Cabbles to give up any hope of finding the love of a woman and instead immerse himself in 50 years of obscurity and misery.
    Roll on Rochdale...

    After setting up my uncle with an account on here in September last year he chooses tonight to make his first post. We did indeed debate whether or not the last time I game to Oldham in 2010 we sat in what was now the home end, and indeed a different perspective/viewpoint. That's how nothing the game was.

    I hope this is the first post of many after realising he needed to check his junk folder to verify his account.

    He's now dived straight back into his book, The Railway. Nation, network, people by Simon Bradley. That plus a Valentine's trip to Oldham is certainly worth jeopardising his marriage for
    Pwopa Charl'on!

  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,288
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  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    WestCountryAddick said:

    Leuth said:

    Apologist here

    Reading the match thread it looked like we battered them, missed loads of good chances, keeper had a stormer, stonewall penalty denied. We've clearly played much worse this season and drawn 1-1.

    A fully firing Magennis and we win that one without much difficulty imo - we've just been very unlucky and Robinson hasn't had the chance to build the squad he wants. It's important he's given the summer to do so.

    Short-termist 'THE CLUB IS DEAD', 'KR IS TOAST' bulls**t is not helping anyone. The club is being ineptly run, sure, but given our squad, resources etc I think we've hit our floor. The only way really is up.

    Hang on, we've just had a transfer window where Robinson stated he could have brought in more players, but he didn't. Whether Karl was being honest or not, it doesn't matter, either Duchatelet didn't back him financially, or Robinson failed to bring in sufficient quality players to get us into the play offs. Let's remember it was Robinson himself who stated that anything other than the play offs is failure.

    So let's say that Robinson WAS at fault and he didn't bring in enough quality, then why should we back him to do things properly at the end of the season? If Duchatelet was at fault, then it's just business as usual when it comes to signing players, so why should we yet again believe it will be any different next time?
    Look. We are a complete basket case club complete with a silk lining and pig skin straps. The last thing we need is to start calling for a managers head after a handful of games. I'm embarrassed enough being a Charlton supporter already.

    Erm, I'm not calling for his head.
  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,362
    He sounds like a dead man walking in that clip almost as if he's close to giving up. Surely he has realised now what he walked into and the impossibility of the task.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,728
    Scoham said:

    God he talks some waffle doesnt he
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,359
    He praises the referee despite the penalty non-award and prefers to discuss the ruthlessness of the finishing, which is probably the right way to go about it
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,817
    Simonsen said:

    He's got to play Watt and Magennis together at Rochdale.

    He won't play anything other than 4-2-3-1.
  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    edited February 2017
    Well Robinson was stating the obvious there, we don't score enough goals. I'm sure he is right about them being an honest bunch, but that doesn't really help our predicament. We've played 30 games this season, which is more than enough to make a proper assessment, and ultimately it appears that the squad just isn't good enough to be a top six side.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,921
    I'm beginning to think KR is part of the problem, as we are becoming predictable. Every other team knows how he will set us up, and can prepare for it.

    Tonight, Oldham were well organised and nullified our attacking play.

    At the back, I'm still not convinced by Bauer and Konsa as a duo, I think both need soneone more experienced alongside them.
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,115
    Wasn't at the game, but what a joke.

    Should be fuming but just feel numb. I remember saying to a mate that if we finish mid table league 1 hopefully RD will lose interest and just sell up. Can only hope that is the case. Maybe not making play offs is a good thing, cos it certainly ain't happening.

    Anybody who remotely thinks that this regime are still good for the club - surely there can't be many - but i keep seeing a few on different fb groups...not been able to bite my tounge either unfortunately as I've had a couple of beers, but anyway anybody who thinks RD and KM are still good for the club need to wake the hell up. He is a vermin and a nasty stain on our clubs great history.

    We will get our club back one day it's just nights like these that really hurt and you think back to where we once were and where we are now and you just feel that raw anger coming back again, even though you pretend you don't care, like I do a lot nowadays but it still hurts just the same when you think how far we have fallen because of this Belgian mob. We've been in league one before and I enjoyed it, it's not the division, it's the just the apathy and toxic feeling that surrounds our once great club.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,602
    To me there's a few bits to read in-between the lines and I reckon it's a message to those above as much as anything;

    1. He's having to play with kids (Konsa, Aribo, Da Silva and Mavididi), he made the point he was having to play a player for his debut, a loan player at that. i.e. lack of depth in squad, all be it Da Silva was out.

    2. Questioning his players, if they want to come to him, what it takes to play for Charlton etc....... to me this still means he has players who don't want to be there as I suspect they think they should be playing at a higher level or just want out (Tex, Johnson, Ulvestad, Watt and possibly Konsa).

    3. Lack of goals, he knows most aren't good enough but he has little choice on who to play.

    Don't know about dead man walking, but he sounds a little defeated in general, not by the results or players as such but the lack of what he feels he needs to do the job. How many times did he say he knows what he needs to do? Thats a cue to 'but someones not letting me'

    I wonder, will he be the first one to walk away from the madhouse before he's pushed? If he lasts until the end of the season I can see him having a meeting with RD to say back me, back who I want to buy or I'm off, and he'll be off!

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